Warcraft II 2nd generation

[Killrogg Deadeye]

We need members for a Warcraft 2 2nd generation, a Warcraft 2 conversion using the Warcraft 3 engine. We need modellers, skinners, triggerers, terrainers and someone to rewrite the soundtrack.
Strategy Master, leader of the project, released a demo, the engine and a map editor. For more informations about this visit: http://www.wc3campaigns.net/showthread.php?t=94255

 

[Killrogg Deadeye]

No anwers? Nobody intersted, sigh

 

[Tooolbox]

I think this has been done at least twice

 

[Killrogg Deadeye]

This is the only WCII conversion, other projects abandoned after a map or two, and no new models etc..

 

[Mechanical Man]

Bah, evenon only using standard wc3 models and perhaps some on this site will not make that difference.

 

[Killrogg Deadeye]

Some models does'nt exist in Wc3 such oil tankers, oil platforms, demons, death knights etc..

 

[Tooolbox]

I don't think you can ever have a full WCII conversion because there's no method of having oil?...

And there are Demon & Death Knight models

 

[Mechanical Man]

Why do not you make the whole list of models and skins you need, so we can see what we can do?

 

[operator]

If I want to play Wc2, I'd buy Wc2. That's just me though : p

 

[ragingspeedhorn]

This is a great project lead by a great modder, good luck with it, I hope you find people with a little more enthusiasm than these.

 

[Killrogg Deadeye]

I agree with you raging, i think many people here never played Warcraft II

- Death knights in War2 were totally differents, since they were undeads knights with War1 necrolyte spirits in their bodies, while the War3 death knights are corrupted human paladins, totally different from the original order created by Gul'Dan)

- Demon? You mean the doomguard? Totally different creature!

- Yes, we have an oil system, download the engine to see it. I'm sure you will love it

We need the following models (we don't use the standard war3 models, since this is a WARCRAFT II CONVERSION, not just a simple campaign set in War2 times)

HUMAN UNITS:
Peasant
Footman
Knight/Paladin
Ballist
Gnomish Flying Machine
Dwarven Demolition Team
Dwarven Gryphon Rider
Oil Tanker
Elven Destroyer
Battleship
Transport

ORC UNITS:
Grunt
Catapuls
Goblin Zeppelin
Goblin Sappers
Death Knight
Oil Tanker
Troll Destroyer

HUMAN BUILDINGS:
All except farm, barracks and gnomish inventor

ORC BUILDINGS:
Pig Farm
Tower/Ballista Tower/Canon Tower
Great Hall and his upgrades since Red XIII's one is very good but bugged
Blacksmith
Troll Lumber Mill
Dragon Roost
Shipyard
Foundry
Refinery
Oil Platform

HUMAN HEROES:
Uther Lightbringer
Turalyon
Danath
Alleria
Kurdran

ORC HEROES:
Dentarg
Kargath Bladefist

MISC UNITS:
Demon
Undead

To see how were units and buildings in War2, visit:
http://www.wowwiki.com/Warcraft_II_Units#Introduction

 

[Kimbo]

Death Knight
http://www.wc3campaigns.net/showthread.php?t=94384

But seriously, the other Mods of this...have pretty much all the models you want, no one will remake them just becuase you dont have them. Try to ask the other people in the other mods if you can use the models.

 

[Killrogg Deadeye]

Which mods? I have never seen those models...

 

[Kimbo]

http://www.fulgrim.com/hubb/index.php?board=72.0
The gallery link is dead but ages ago when i saw the modesl they were.."yummy".

here is this one, they also have some modesl too:
http://www.wc3campaigns.net/showthread.php?t=84960

There is one other one. But i cant find it but its partially alive/dead.

 

[Killrogg Deadeye]

That hubb gallery is about this project, who is just restarted. The modeller disappeared with all the models

 

[Killrogg Deadeye]

I can only use the church of that maps, dragon roost and troll destroyer aren't his models, so I can't use them

 

[Killrogg Deadeye]

Warcraft2 2nd generation (screenshots)

I've finally completed the maps of orcish campaign (of Tides of Darkness) of war2 2ndgeneration. Here are some screenshots:



The mission where you fight in the tomb of Sargeras (12th mission) against Gul'Dan and Cho'Gall Forces


The siege of Dalaran (13th mission), look the minimap: a perfect reproduction of the original cross shape island...


Alliance heroes are defending the dark portal from Ner'Zhul forces (12th mission of Beyond the dark portal)

I hope someone can help us with models here's the list of the models needed:

HUMAN UNITS:
Peasant
Ballista
Dwarven Demolition Team
Mage
Transport
Battleship
Gnomish Flying Machine

HUMAN HEROES:
Uther The Lightbringer
Khadgar

ORC UNITS:
Grunt
Catapult
Goblin Sappers
Troll Destroyer
Goblin Zeppelin

HUMAN BUILDINGS:
Farm (we have one but need to be skinned)
Elven Lumber Mill
Stables
Gryphon Aviary
Mage Tower
Shipyard
Foundry
Oil Refinery
Oil Platform
Human Watchtower/Cannon Tower

ORC BUILDINGS:
Pig Farm
Ogre Mound
Goblin Alchemist
Dragon Roost
Shipyard
Foundry
Oil Refinery
Oil Platform
Orc Watchtower/Cannon Tower

MISC UNITS AND BUILDINGS:
Skeleton
Daemon
Runestone
Circle of Power
Orc Wall

 

[Tauer]

I could maybe help you with models... I'm not too experienced with modeling, but I've made a Gul'Dan model, I know you're using.

 

[Mechanical Man]

Mmm, it looks really cool, but units have no shadows?

 

[Chaos Overlord]

I would suggest working on them a bit more. Or are the not done? If they are done, then make them undone. I think you can tell why they are not superb.

 

[Killrogg Deadeye]

Tauer, yes, your Gul'Dan model will be used, since it's very well done and much war2 style.
- Units have shadows, I've removed them in the option panel.

 

[Tauer]

I've made a WC2 style Grunt also, I just have some problems making it work ingame.... I don't know if you're in need of a Turalyon model, but I'm making one right now. Picture:

It isn't done yet.

 

[Tauer]

I've also made a Zul'jin model, if you need it:

I don't think it turned out to well, but tell me if you need it, and I'll send it to you.

 

[Killrogg Deadeye]

Turalyon is very good. Can you add hero glow? As for Zul'Jin, we have already one

 

[Tauer]

I think it already has a hero glow. I'll just finish him off now. Is there anyone else you need?

 

[Killrogg Deadeye]

Oh yes. All Orc heroes are done. As for human heroes we need Uther Lightbringer, Danath and Khadgar.

 

[Mini-Me]

Shall I move this to the project recruitment forum since you seem to be looking for help? You do say that you have completed the campaign, where can we download it?

 

[Tauer]

Alright. I'll see what I can do about them

Turalyon is done. Do you want me to upload them here?

 

[Killrogg Deadeye]

@Minime: yes move, the campaign is completed, but unplayable, i must wait my project leader for AI and triggers, then it's playable.
@Tauer: Ok, upload, upload

 

[Mini-Me]

Ok. Moved to Project Recruitment.

 

[Tauer]

Here is Turalyon.

I'm working on Danath right now. Here is a preview:

I'll of course reskin the body, and give him a new sword. What do you think of the head?

 

[Killrogg Deadeye]

Very nice the danath model, but I suggest you to remove the cloak

 

[Killrogg Deadeye]

Turalyon doesn't work, the head is flapping, has got 2 shield and 2 swords, need to check it

 

[Tauer]

That's strange... It works perfectly for me... Have you tried it ingame?
EDIT: Right, now I see it. There are two heads, swords and shields in the death animation... I'll have to look into that.

 

[Tauer]

Finished Danath. I've made a version with and without cloak. I suggest you use the one with the cloak, because his chest is mirrored on his back, it looks kinda stupid.
I'm still checking that Turalyon model. Can't quite figure it out... I'll think of something, but right now I'm going to bed

 

[Killrogg Deadeye]

I've tried to put Danath head (excellently done, very good work) on human captain body, and IMO it looks better than Arthas body. Here's the screen. If you like it, and if you can, can you please add hero glow and fix the decay bug (the head remains on the ground when he dies)

 

[Tauer]

I'll see if I can do that, and maybe add a dissipate animation with the help of Callahans tutorial. I'm going to my father's today, unfortunatly I don't all the programs I need there, but I'll see if I can fix it

 

[Killrogg Deadeye]

Oh yes, dissipate animation will works perfectly

 

[Linaze]

I cant really help with anything, seems you got it going well anyways. Though I do have spent many days my life studying warcraft lore, if you have any questions about the storyine, just ask me and i'll try to give you an answer.

 

[Killrogg Deadeye]

Don't worry, I played War2 the first time when i was 8 years old (now I'm 20)
You can always enjoy the whole project when It's done and show it to you friends

 

[Linaze]

Yes, good luck, when is the ETA of the first demo ?

 

[Killrogg Deadeye]

The first demo is already available, but we can't give you an ETA, it depends on models. We need more modellers!

 

[Linaze]

What models are u needing then?

 

[Tauer]

I've been working on Danath, and he looks fine now. He's got hero glow and a dissipate animation... Only problem is that some of the model won't show ingame...
EDIT: Nevermind, fixed it.

 

[Killrogg Deadeye]

Excellent work! The list of units and buildings needed in this project is in the first page of this thread. Can you make goblin sappers or dwarven demolition team?

 

[Tauer]

Sure, I can do that I was wondering if you could upload the farm here, then I could look at the skin?

 

[Killrogg Deadeye]

Here's the model. I've also inserted my Alleria Windrunner model, has 2 problems:

The portrait is not animated well, only the right part moves
When she dies, a piece of her face remains on the ground

 

[Tauer]

Hmmm, I'm afraid I can't fix the portrait... It seems that the right part was merged on with the geoset merger, and because of that, it has no animation... I can't really see any way to fix it... Sorry

 

[Killrogg Deadeye]

Doh!

 

[Tauer]

Are you experiencing the same problem with the troll portrait?