The Hive's Staff

[The Dark Wizard]

9/24/2012
3:42 pm eastern. The Dark Wizard's purpose for being on the staff is done.

 

[Vengeancekael]

Oh I uh... Okay.

The Dark Wizard has been removed from the active moderators list. (10-July-2012 - 24-September-2012)

 

[Vengeancekael]

Added new tabs feature, also started working on new full history list.

 

[Almia]

can i ask?

why is DSG and pyr@midhe@d not in the history?
same with Hanky and Paladon.

 

[Vengeancekael]

Because the list is being remade from scratch and I haven't updated it for months.

 

[Almia]

Thanks

 

[Dr Super Good]

I used to be a moderator? I thought every trace of that was removed by that rogue timelord I annoyed.

 

[Almia]

You are.
Just saw a spell you approved,which is in result,you owned that spell.

 

[Asomath]

I thought every trace of that was removed by that rogue timelord I annoyed.

Hahahaha. That was certainly a good way to describe him. And yeah we all remember your moderator days DSG. Can't erase memories!

~Asomath

 

[Almia]

Well,i just figured it out.

I havent discovered the WE in the DSG era

 

[Daffa]

Well, I check the list and notice these 2 Moderators not on the list : -Grendel and Apheraz Lucent (their icon represents raider icon, means they are moderators)

Regards,

Daffa the Mage

 

[Almia]

Apheraz Lucents have been removed from the list due to that she is deceased,you can see it in the History

and also,i think you are blind. I can see -Grendel from the list.

 

[Daffa]

Maybe I don't take a better look, okay, I take a better look, thanks Almia

 

[Vinz]

-Grendel is deceased.. Updates? Thanks.

 

[Almia]

It is,it was written the day he died.
Please view the history

 

[Daffa]

Seems the full history is missing many old staffs (i.e Dr Super Good, Rui<unless I'm blind for this one> Joe-black-5 etc, is the data is being updated?)

P.S : I know that there was a tag bug broken the old hive staff data

 

[Vengeancekael]

Yes, I need to get back to working on this.
And no, this has nothing to do with the symbols bug
Rui simply wants the old, full list hidden because it is his property and his choice.

 

[Vengeancekael]

Yes, I need to get back to working on this.
And no, this has nothing to do with the symbols bug
Rui simply wants the old, full list hidden because it is his property and his choice.

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[Rui]

Lurtz: I watching you...

Replicating a concept does not make it any less the original author's, just saying. There's no reason for this to be so important to the Hive? Like anyone here cares about digital history.

 

[I3lackDeath]

Lurtz: I watching you...

Replicating a concept does not make it any less the original author's, just saying. There's no reason for this to be so important to the Hive? Like anyone here cares about digital history.

Then you probably don't care about this being taken up again if it's "so unimportant", right?

What changes do you suggest for "your concept" to make this work?
Simple answer: it's impossible, because this ain't anything you can own. The past of Hive's Staff is no concept or idea - it's information, history (as you pointed out yourself), nothing else.
Your way of displaying it, of arranging the information, may be considered "your work", but that's about it. You can't label something "your idea" if it's mere (gathering of) information.
Either be more specific about what really bothers you, or simply drop it already.

 

[RED BARON]

Like anyone here cares about digital history.

Some do its credit to those who have done an amazing and note worthy job at Hive. and that goes for both former and current.

In fact thats part of the shame that the old is gone, since I do come in and look at it from time to time, so reminiscence about the good old days. I miss them, even if I know that lives go on. Same way I miss wc3sear.ch.

Not that I want to discuss it, just pointing it out:

What changes do you suggest for "your concept" to make this work?
Simple answer: it's impossible, because this ain't anything you can own. The past of Hive's Staff is no concept or idea - it's information, history (as you pointed out yourself), nothing else.

Learned from a course in copyright law I attended (somewhat to my surprise) that he can in fact own legal copyright over it - Not the information, but the format /setting/colors and if actually the first to do it: the idea of doing it But none the less, as I expressed in the beginning I hope to see the old return, with credits to Rui

 

[Daffa]

Like anyone here cares about digital history.

I do care abut history

@Vengeancekael
Maybe add Orcnet to the contact for Filipino people? Orcnet is a Filipino and I think there are many Filipino people at Hive.

 

[Almia]

^ NONOONOONONONONONONONONONO
We have PRS. Don't worry.

 

[Rui]

Then you probably don't care about this being taken up again if it's "so unimportant", right?

You misunderstand. It is “important” to me. On the other hand, no one here gave it any real praise except ragingspeedhorn, who is gone.

I really do not want to have this discussion again. It was accorded that the staff list would be gone. Please do not push it up again or attempt to find workarounds.

(...) Not the information, but the format /setting/colors and if actually the first to do it: the idea of doing it (...)

That is accurate.
Which took me quite some work to put together (bold part).

 

[I3lackDeath]

I did not misunderstand, you failed to state your argument properly.

You once again use quotation marks for the essence of your statement.
This either means you are not really serious about it, or you can't find a proper way to define what you mean by saying it.

You are bound to have this discussion over and over again, until it actually bears the fruits you want to see. This thread exists for more than half a year now, which leads to several other assumptions, but it seems to be hardly worth the effort to elaborate on those.

Additionally, it's always about praise and recognition with you. That's really tiresome and repetitive. Stuck in a rut, are we?

It was accorded that the staff list would be gone.

That's like me saying I have a PhD in Theoretical Physics aswell as being an astronaut, having 15 children around the world who all work for Microsoft.
You are supposed to verify your statements with according measures.
Unless you can do that and the upper tiers of Staff decide on and disclose a verdict, there's absolutely no valid reason to delete this thread.

 

[Rui]

* Was the question mark what's confusing? I think I stated just what I wanted to state: this isn't important to the Hive.
* Ignore the quotation marks if it makes it more understandable.
* I've had this discussion and it has bore the fruits I wanted to see: the list was removed. I have no quarrel with this thread as long as it doesn't become a (wannabe) replica. Is there any reason why you've suddenly gone on an arguing-for-the-sake-of-it frenzy?

 

[I3lackDeath]

Was the question mark what's confusing?

What question mark? You haven't used any.

I have no quarrel with this thread as long as it doesn't become a (wannabe) replica.

You'd have to point out what specifically bothers you about it, which I have stated 6 posts ago. This statement is more than vague.

why you've suddenly gone on an arguing-for-the-sake-of-it frenzy?

Implying I don't have a reason to have this discussion with you.
Using the word "frenzy" to exaggerate (mind that I have written two, with this, three, posts so far - hardly qualifies as "frenzy").
Really?

 

[Ralle]

There's no need to discuss this. I respect Rui's request not to have his list here. No need to push it around. Definitely not in this thread or it'll lose it's value. Please stop.

 

[Almia]

Bye Kael and Blacky

I hope enjoy and Orcnet can still do their jobs because their pressure will be added.

 

[Orcnet]

we can still handle it

pressure will be added.

the pressure...

 

[Binsu]

we can still handle itthe pressure...

Oh the pressure... but not to worry, I'll help you with the revewng in my free time.

 

[Daffa]

Purgeandfire profile link is broken

 

[gorillabull]

this thread serves as a wonderful tool to know who should be trolled to death after all those times they rejected your resource

LET THE REBELLION BEGIN!!!

 

[Daffa]

^careful now mate.

Well, wonder will Ralle going to find substitute for VK and 13lackDeath.
Enjoy and Orcnet have too much work.
Wonder about the pressure....

 

[gorillabull]

lol im not giving any ideas but if your icon gets rejected you know what to do
try harder and make it look better

 

[Vinz]

At this point, I will stop creating icons. I know what's next.

 

[Binsu]

Im just gonna help Orcnet at reviewing maps. =)

 

[MasterTrainer]

What's the current topic of conversation here?

 

[I3lackDeath]

I've always been admin on this site, so I was not aware that as soon as a thread is closed, you cannot edit your post (or maybe I just forgot...), so I basically blocked Vengeancekael from applying further corrections and updates to this thread.
Therefore I have decided to clean up and re-open the thread.

I am hoping that this thread will be useful for years to come, therefore I hope that you will help me keep it clean.

Only post if you have corrections to make, otherwise it will grow significantly in the coming years.

I will be deleting posts that have nothing to do with maintaining this list.

This thread has been cleared of unnecessary conversations before.

Guess it's too hard to read the whole thread before posting, hm.
Figures.

 

[Daffa]

@MasterTrainer
No, I just don't want to keep the conversation to continue, so, I will request Ralle for clean up, including my posts as well.

@MT and HM
I have modified my post accordingly, also, I'm requesting Ralle for quick clean up, since talking about pressure and others here can make this thread full, as Ralle stated, this thread can grow significantly if we post too much.

@All
Just talk about anything unrelated to the list in chat or other place, but not here, I don't want to make Ralle get more work.
I still remember Ralle posts here.

Notes :
I'm not subscribing here, but it appears on the Site Discussion, so I'm checking it.

 

[Vengeancekael]

New Full History look, let me know what you think.
Don't judge me, I was bored.

 

[Ralle]

That's some heavy bbcode! Looks good!

 

[Orcnet]

This is the reason why I've started to have feelings for you Kaeli-kun

Oh wait you forgot to add Keiju & Statharas

 

[Daffa]

The New Full History Template looks Good Vengeancekael
btw, why in the history VGastomi has Raider icon while in the current staff he got Peon?

 

[Vengeancekael]

That icon in the full history indicates the user's highest position.

@Orcnet, I haven't, they're there.

 

[Dr Super Good]

That icon in the full history indicates the user's highest position.

VGastomi was an administrator originally. In fact, he was the person who organized the merger between WarcraftIIISearch and HiveWorkshop, helping deliver all the WarcraftIIISearch data to Ralle to incorporate into the site.

 

[Daffa]

That icon in the full history indicates the user's highest position.

I see, thanks for the info.

 

[Vengeancekael]

@DSG, Was he a hive admin or a wc3s admin?
edit: 42 new users added to Full History. If you have any info to share, please do post a comment.

 

[Daffa]

Kael, DSG has Raider icon instead of shaman icon, bu he's an admin before.

 

[Vengeancekael]

So uh, it's always awkward when the dead come back to the living world and I'm pulled back here to update the list.
I assume Apheraz Lucent is not deceased afterall?