Terraining Challenge 2007/2008

[Rui]

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I've stated now that we won't be going by alphabetic order, due that some wait for the end of the poll, and others start as soon as the first contest ends, so... I'll pick a random tileset after Barrens.

 

[demonsofdante]

Ohhhh i thought you said it was alphabetical, my fault.

 

[Jaakko]

(to 1 year instead of 1,5... by that time everyone already left wc for sc anyway, so...)

That's no good teamspirit. It's totally fine for me if you say you leave, but don't say everyone will leave. And besides there's no guarantee people will be playing SC2 after 1,5 years, maybe SC.

 

[Eleandor]

SC servers will all be shut down by blizzard when SC 2 comes out. It's been announced. Anyway, before this turns out to a SC thread, I just wanna say that 1 year is more than enough for me for 1 (one) terrain challenge (even though it's split in multiple contests). Ofcourse not everyone will leave, but it's just a way of saying...

 

[Jaakko]

SC servers will all be shut down by blizzard when SC 2 comes out.

I thought I read in SC2 site that SC will remain playable in B.net. Blizzard said this so have they changed their minds?

 

[Rui]

Blizzard always change their mind. I bet they'll even release Diablo 3 with WoW as MMO before Warcraft IV, IF they ever release Wc4. All my efforts for Wc3 are going down the drain with this SC2 stuff. I understand SC2 was made earlier and logically should receive an update earlier, but I hope they don't leave Warcraft III dying either, it is so outdated and the engine is just so old. They could at least release an expansion, which is, of course, a dream.

 

[Herio-san]

I think I actually may have some new inspiration for my barrens terrain and I think I may redo what I have (This would end up being my second revision lol).

 

[Jaakko]

So what is the next theme?

 

[Herio-san]

I believe were still going to do barrens but the next tileset will be random to prevent people from working on it early.

Edit: WIP of my New Barrens Terrain
Its got alot of work to go still. Im planning on having around 10-15 of these little floating-rock islands and then doing a terrain under them with holes in the ground. Some will be connected with rope bridges and poles. Others will have small sections of towns and sections of bases on them.

 

[Rui]

Alright, let us start the Barrens tileset! Today is the 24th May, so the Barrens tileset will end on the 24th June! You can start working on your terrains and posting them!

By the way, please keep attachments you made on this contest, since JPEG files don't take that much space.

The first post has been edited! Congrat's Herio-San, you are the Ashenvale Tileset Master!

 

[Valcrist]

At the screen you can see the disbelieve of an orc that never believed in dragons, until he saw this...

Thats one bigass dragon

 

[Jaakko]

Barrens First W.I.P

Just started this a few hours ago. It's in an early stage.

Pimp my fortress! ^^

 

[Nuke770]

ya may i join this competition, why am i left out all the time! lolz

 

[Jaakko]

Barrens Second W.I.P

 

[Chaos Overlord]

The Fortress part is cool but I don't think that the Infernals in the ravine fit with the whole Orc theme. Just a thought...

 

[Jaakko]

Orcs and Infernals were both in Barrens in RoC. I can remove them if others think the same way.

 

[Rui]

Great, keep posting your terrains.

 

[Nuke770]

rui may i please join this contest!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

 

[Rui]

Sure. Make you read the first post.

 

[Ratherion]

The infernals don't seem to fit the theme... Maybe it is because they're green? If you want to add infernals I suggest making the base more demonic as well.

 

[Jaakko]

I'm starting to really consider of removing the Infernals though I liked them. Others what do you think?

 

[Ratherion]

No, don't get me wrong, they look pretty cool, I don't know, it just seems like:

Orc- "Look! A random infernal!"
Thrall- "I'm going to go kill it and gain xp/protect my nation."
Carine- "No, just leave it there, it looks cool."

I mean you could make it a Fel Orc Fortress, with more green/evil, then they would fit very nicely.

 

[demonsofdante]

The problem a lot of people have is tastefulyl placing units. SO many people place loads of units in their terrain thinking it looks cool, but it usually ends up looking very tacky. Which is sort of how those infernos look, they just dont match up with the rest of the terrain. I suggest removing them, it will look a lot better after

 

[Jaakko]

Four people have suggested me to remove them so I will do it.

 

[Ratherion]

Good choice.

 

[Jaakko]

Barrens Third W.I.P


Better?

 

[Ratherion]

Yes, and some advice: Maybe the bridge is a bit to high? I mean the bones are not hitting the ground, you may want to raise the terran or add doodads so it looks like the bridge is supported, the floaintg bones are kind of clashing

 

[The_wand_mirror]

A little preview of what my terrain will be like .. this is the troll camp part.. but its just a little piece of it .. not done yet ... just previewing .. yes and much rocks on the troll part because they cant move the stones they live on highered platforms made of wood and such.. this took me 1:30 hours to start the map and including this to make

 

[Rui]

Very good terrains. Please attach the maps.

 

[The_wand_mirror]

Was just a preview so do i need to attach the map? no eh? .. (or do i?)

Heres another screenshot.. i replaced the many little rock pillars to bigger rock pillars .. because acctualy it quite looked sucky.. and it took WAY to much space in the doodad limit .. now its reduced certainly with 87%.

 

[Jaakko]

How many attachments of the maps do we need to post?

and it took WAY to much space in the doodad limit .. now its reduced certainly with 87%.

I really don't think that you need to worry about exceeding doodad limit, or if you do use WEU.

 

[The_wand_mirror]

I really don't think that you need to worry about exceeding doodad limit, or if you do use WEU.

Well i used it first to work with.. but it seems to have a bug showing tool palletes only 1 time and when you click them away you cant make them come back! :s so i use normal WE again ..and anyway this is much more realistic and it looks better

 

[Rui]

WEU is outdated, it doesn't work for 1.21 patch.

As for the attachments, attach the map when you're done.

 

[demonsofdante]

Wip 2

I scrapped my original idea and went with an orc Canyon City. I have a lot left to do but heres a shot of one of the streets

 

[Ratherion]

You might want to take more of an arial shot of the city, I think it would look a bit better than a straight up shot.

 

[demonsofdante]

Yeah i know, at the moment though, thats one of hte best angles to shoot from and pretty much all i have done rofl. I'll give better shots later on

 

[Ratherion]

K, I would suggest messing with the lighting a bit, maybe making it dawn/dusk so that you can have light on top of the canyon, then shadows for torches and stuff on the bottom, it would look sweet.

 

[2-P]

K, I would suggest messing with the lighting a bit, maybe making it dawn/dusk so that you can have light on top of the canyon, then shadows for torches and stuff on the bottom, it would look sweet.

You say that so easy, WC3 kinda sucks when it comes to light effects.

 

[demonsofdante]

Agreed, i'll tweak it when it gets nearer to completion, specific lightings one of the things i do last .

 

[Ratherion]

Yea, i've used terragen for a long time so light is REAL easy, but you can still manipulate light in WE reasonably well, by changing camera angle/torches/time of day.

 

[Jaakko]

What is terragen? demonsofdante the terrain looks nice. How can you make a sky like that if there is no brown sky in WE?

 

[demonsofdante]

Well, there is a light particle located in the cinematics part of the doodads, but its hard to use well.

 

[Ratherion]

Terragen is a free 3d terraining tool with lots of stuff, And you can use a blue sky with different time of day to get the brown...

 

[demonsofdante]

Oh Jaakko, i used the Cloud particle, a cinematic doodad in the UTM. It doesnt get blocked out by the fog like the sky background

 

[The_wand_mirror]

How u get the acctualy thing they call 'Fog' (not fog effects) to work in WE (so NOT in-game i mean)?

 

[Eleandor]

you mean the special effect you get when you create a region, select "weather effect" and scroll down to "fog - green fog"?

well, then that's the way to get the fog

 

[Ratherion]

You can also trigger attach an area of fog to a unit...

 

[Herio-san]

Hm. Well I still havnt done alot to my terrain. Its a good thing I still have some time. I have high hopes for this one, I just really wish I could stop fighting the camra angles so much. Its nearly impossible to get a good screenie because the sky always breaks in the background. Anyway, lemme know what you guys think. I still need to finish the ground below the floating islands and add some more islands in (im hoping on having around 9 along with a finished ground below)

 

[Jaakko]

Well I think that floating islands are rather strange in Barrens. Would fit more to Outland...

 

[demonsofdante]

Use inverted barrens stalagmites for the underside of the rocks, it would look cool. Also try and make plants look like theyre hanging off of it cuase its sorta bland at the moment