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Swine Flu Vaccine?

Discussion in 'Off-Topic' started by Megafyr, Dec 8, 2009.

  1. Megafyr

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    Just wondering. Are you going to get the Vaccine? I have been asked by the school, but I said I did not want to, because from what I have heard the swine flu is a virus that changes, which means you will have to get a vaccine each year if you want to stay immune. Now my mom wants me to have it tomorrow because the local health center offers it to anyone under eighteen in a limited time period, but I am not sure if I am going to have it.

    So, what are your thoughts? Gonna have it? :)
     
  2. WILL THE ALMIGHTY

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    Don't see the point.
     
  3. Edhel-dur

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    In my country around 13 people died because of the swine flu. All of them had some other major health problems. Another 4000 are sick. As I understood from the media, if your own body is healthy enough, you won't contact the swine flu. They are encouraging people to take the vaccine here also. but not many take it.
     
  4. Zombie

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    Hungarian politicans are making a pre-election campaign out of this shit. If you get the vaccine you'll be labelled as a communist by the democrats, if you don't get the vaccine you get labelled as a nazi by the socialists. Easy as that. I got the vaccine about a month ago btw.
     
  5. noxwinslol

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    pointless, there's barely difference with the normal flu.
     
  6. Paladon

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    Clearly: No.
     
  7. shiiK

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    No. If you're healthy, you will experience the swine flu as a regular flu, ie you'll be in bed a few days. Here in Norway the virus has already evolved once, and people get the disease twice (if really unlucky), and the second time is rumoured to be worse. Anyhow, I'm healthy and I haven't got it so far (and I don't avoid crowds, take particular precautions or anything of such sort, I live like I normally would), why fret and take a vaccine now? Besides, you get a flu from just taking the vaccine too.
     
  8. Tyranid

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    Nope, might have already had it as a minor form. Besides, I'm feeling that my chances of surviving the flu (if I didn't have it already) are pretty good, considering how there are 7000 swine flu cases in finland and 17 deaths. I'm also really healthy.
     
  9. TheDivineBoss

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    Vaccines and cures basically explain why the Earth is overpopulating (or overpopulated).
     
  10. Coolty44

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    The media over-exagerates the problem. A kid died a few hours from were I live, and the media went apeshit becuase of it. They pick stupid, stupid cases and fuck up all kinds of things. This kid was the last straw for me. I can't show respect at my hockey games, since my glove acts as some sort of "magjicalz beerier".

    I got yelled and screamed at for not getting it, some people went as far as calling me a terrorist. Like the flu is any worse.
     
  11. Vampiro320

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    People say that swine flu is a virus, and in my science class a year back they hammered it into our heads that there was no way to make a vaccine for a virus. Maybe I'm just missing something, but this doesn't seem right.
     
  12. Dreadnought[dA]

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    If you really are scared of it (which any semi-healthy human being shouldn't be) then instead of getting a vaccine, strengthen your immune system by eating certain foods or taking pills. That's a far more effective way to fight off EVERYTHING! Also note it works against EVERYTHING!
     
  13. shiiK

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    It also happens to be effin expensive, though.
     
  14. Kimbo

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    prevention is better than a cure. Or also saying, prevention is better than doing NOTHING.

    Any form of prevention.

    No matter how big or small.
     
  15. Belgarath

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    there was a thread on facepunch (a long time ago) which was talking about the current swine flu vaccine being more deadly than the actual swine flu
    forgot what exactly the problem was, but if i remember right, that one had some major side effects in the future
     
  16. shiiK

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    Not unlike most vaccines in general.
     
  17. The_wand_mirror

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    I read people that do sports often and are just being healthy don't risk getting it.
     
  18. PurplePoot

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    Erm, no way to make a long-lasting cure, since the virus will evolve.

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    There is a lot of disinformation out there and a lot of it seems to have seeped into this thread. Rumours, people!

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    I would get it if I knew of any convenient way, but at the moment I don't and thus I probably won't.
     
  19. Eccho

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    I took the swine flue vaccine, what did I get? I was not even home for one day, even though I felt alittle more tired than usual, and probably had some fever for a day or two... The vaccine will only struck those worse which is belonging to a 'risk group' or overall haves a medical condition, or overall, a weaker immune system.

    The virus does indeed evolve, at one point at another, but unlike HIV, they were able to make a vaccine against this swine flue one (compare it to the HIV virus which mutates at around the same speed you develop a vaccine for it). And yes, that question struck me too... why taking the vaccine if the virus is going to mutate? First of all, our immune system has a extremely well memory, and recognises not only one specific type of virus but also viruses 'related' to another one. By this I mean, the immune system cells stores information about the viruses they are hit by, and in this case (or most cases?) a protein which is unique for that the virus. Thus in that was the body will recognise it next time, even if it has had some mutations (under the circumstances that the protein formula doesnt changes completely).

    My aunt works at the health and infenctions institute in Sweden (something like that), and yes, ofcourse they say that the swineflue is this and that and yaddayadda. In Sweden they imported alot of vaccine and everyone will get it free. It feels even more like a waste to not taking it, now when they imported that much:p Sure it was a bad decision in the beginning...
    Anyway, my aunt said that, there will come a second wave which will strike much harder than the first one. So well, I just took it and survived with a hurt arm for 3 days.
     
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  20. shiiK

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    Aye, it mutates, and it's possible to vaccinate against it for a period of time, then you'll have to take a new vaccine and go on like that until the virus is gone - take the regular flu for instance, people with medical conditions that make them more vulnerable to flu (even makes the flu deadly for them) need to take a vaccine every year. Now, a regular person gets the flu every three years or so, skipping one or two years each time, because the virus has not mutated enough to strike you again yet. Now, imagine this process with the swine flu, only it's faster (or so it seems, I can't remember when it broke out, but it has already mutated at least once - vaccinated people have got the swine flu here, and also people who've had it already got it again.

    You took a vaccine and got a fever, I've taken no vaccine and I haven't had the swine flu, which one is better? Considering it's mutated (at least in Norway) you'll have to take another vaccine if you're going to keep it up now. I prefer living like I normally would, and if I per chance would get infected, it's no big deal (I know several people who've had it). I honestly don't get why people vaccinate themselves against these diseases if they're not in danger - save the doses to those who actually need them.

    It's as if people think they're going to be infected with a permanent disease and never ever get back to normal (like it was HIV, and to be honest H1N1 is getting a lot more media coverage). It's a flu everyone, yes it's angrier, but heck it's just a flu. If you die from swine flu you would most likely die from a regular flu. Besides, rumour has it that swine flu is even quicker about it's business, a few days rather than a few weeks.