Spells & Systems Mini-Contest #18

[nerovesper]

Just for fun. I'll try this synergy thing... xD

 

[Eccho]

Ofcourse. I always do it for fun (and a slight hope of winning, but that's not the important thing._.)

 

[Mage_Goo]

@raid1000
the effect was nice and triggering seems good. but it's not MUI nor MPI. found bug, when i cast storm spell, there was 5 idle worker indication, and when i cast the combine of both spell, there was 30 more idle worker indication. to fix it, maybe you change the dummy unit based from. in this spell, you based it from acolyte, change it to another unit, like ghoul or sorceress.

ok, I've got the spell ideas, I'll finish it quickly.

 

[raid1000]

MUI MPI?
how can i make it look like MUI MPI?
and i do destroy targetpoint at the end of storm main...

 

[Element of Water]

Its not MUI MPI, its MUI or MPI. One or the other. Not both. MUI is when the spell works for more than one unit at the same time, hence "Multi-Unit Instanceability", and MPI is when the spell works for more than one player at a time, but not with more than one unit per player. When he said it doesn't look MPI or MUI, he meant the triggering didn't look it. Its nothing to do with how the actual spell looks...

Anyways, I started my coding, then when I saved it, I found out NewGen wasn't compiling my map! Any ideas?

 

[Mage_Goo]

@raid1000
ok, to make MPI, it's simple. Make an array with each variable you use, but, i think, if you already use variable with array, you must save it with some methods, like separate the variable, and you don't need it for temporary use variable (like point variable for de-leaking that destroyed afterward). then make that array refer to Player Number of Triggering Unit. For periodic trigger, you must make a loop from 1 to 12 then refer the array to number of loop.
here's example trigger if you still confused.

For arraying variable

• Set Variable[(Player number of (Owner of (Triggering unit)))] = (Some setting)

For Periodic Trigger

• Untitled Trigger 001
  • Events
    • Time - Every 0.03 seconds of game time
  • Conditions
  • Actions
    • For each (Integer A) from 1 to 12, do (Actions)
      • Loop - Actions
        • Set Variable[(Integer A)] = (Some setting)

and for MUI methods, [thread=117326]see my thread here to learn it.[/thread]

@Element of water
What is the meaning you NewGen didn't compiling your map? it didn't saved or give error? if the second, check what causing the error and fix it.

 

[Justify]

Save a second time, I recognized it yesterday. The first time you save a map (meaning you start a new one, write vJass code and save afterwards) the compiler does nothing, but at the second save he does.

 

[Element of Water]

I've saved it about 10 times already, I already knew about that problem...

 

[Justify]

Is JassHelper enabled? Maybe you turned it off and doesn't know it
Just check: JassHelper -> Enable JassHelper
If that's not the problem I'd create a new map and CnP or ask Vexorian

 

[Element of Water]

Well, I've asked PitzerMike and he just said enable jasshelper, which I had done anyway...

I'll see if making a new map works at all...

EDIT:

Woop, it worked! Thanks for pointing out the obvious, I must have pressed a bad button on that map somewhere. I can't imagine what it'd be like if that happened on a proper map though...

EDIT2:
*sigh* I changed the code once and my problem is back. All I did was add a debug message!

EDIT3:
Yey it works again! It turns out my problem was I couldn't have + or - signs in the name of the map file... dodgy...

 

[Just_Spectating]

my spell is working out perfectly muahahah

 

[Element of Water]

Mine will do once I start working on it properly...

 

[Zack1996]

Wow, there are so many people joining, if about 70% of us finish it on time, Hanky would be in for a bad week :S
Anyway, I would like to say: THANKS FOR JOINING! It's always fun to have lots of people in a contest.
All I can say about my current spell idea is that it would be Pandaren
I like Pandarens, they're cute.
Good luck to everyone and may this contest be a blast

 

[Kingz]

This seems like a good thread to post an advice when making AOE channel spells, if you enable Targeting Image it will show the AOE circle...
I tell this in order to share the knowledge so do not flame if you think this is a stupid advice..
EDIT:
My spells will have 3 elements in them::
ice,fire and force(physical)

And that is all i won't submit until i polish my spells...

 

[Element of Water]

ice and fire is old - you'll have to think of a great new idea to score originality points.

 

[Kingz]

Well it's more like:
Cryo(really strong ice) and Force while the fire is a small effect.
So basicaly:
Cryo + Force

EDIT:
I was planing Wind + Thunder but that is already used...

 

[The Reborn Devil]

I started working on a projectile system some days ago and it's nearly complete (bug testing and such left). May I use it in the spell or is it one of those "Large do-it-for-you systems"?

 

[Element of Water]

@Kingz
So you freeze them then pummel them, shattering them?

@The_Reborn_Devil
They don't count as "large do-it-for-you systems" if you made them (I don't think)

 

[The Reborn Devil]

I thought so too. It would be kinda weird if I'm not allowed to use systems that I have created. But I needed to be sure.

 

[Element of Water]

I think you should ask Hanky... something about "All work must be done after the competition starts" gets me about this thing...

 

[Palaslayer]

so, in fact i cannot use my systems?

anyway i wont ^^

didnt even start on it, too lazy

 

[Rmx]

M e

Here take a look at my spells i'm not done yet i got alot to work in them but
posting the first version

I need feedBACK !!!

 

[xxdingo93xx]

whose idea was it now? niddhoggs or dingos?

Actually, it was mine you can see that in the spells and systems forum 17

 

[Lord_of_sausage]

All the spells looks way better than mine : (

DAMN YOU ALL! *runs away crying*

 

[Rmx]

Do u think Lord-of-sausage my spells are good yes or not ......... anyway i need feedback about my spells !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! the map is in the last post i posted ?!?!

 

[Lord_of_sausage]

Way better than mine, really. But it doesent seem like it creates 6 splashs, more like it 12.

 

[Rmx]

No it create 6 waves or should i say splashes ???---??? it create 6 waves .....
that each deal 50 damage

 

[nerovesper]

This seems like a good thread to post an advice when making AOE channel spells, if you enable Targeting Image it will show the AOE circle...

This was most helpful, thx.

I'm doing a holy spell. I hope it'll fit in with the theme... ^^

 

[xXMephistoXx]

I'm definately in for this one!
Will it be decided by a judge or by a poll?

 

[Paladon]

Just read the first post.
My post.

 

[xXMephistoXx]

Thank you =)
Off-Topic: Oscar Wilde

 

[Paladon]

Finally!
Finally someone found it out.

 

[Lord_of_sausage]

Huh? Oscar Wilde? Did i miss something xD

 

[Paladon]

I am sorry for this offtopic.
Just forget these lines.

 

[Just_Spectating]

Hopefully ive gotten all the leaks and whatever..

SUBMISSION (till any notice/critique)

Trees of the Seeds

+Synergy

Incinerate

Trees of the Seeds

Level 1 - 8 trees, 26 treant base damage.
Level 2 - 10 trees, 38 treant base damage.
Level 3 - 12 trees, 50 treant base damage.

Incinerate

Level 1 - 6 spheres, 25 initial damage, 5 burning damage.
Level 2 - 8 spheres, 40 initial damage, 10 burning damage.
Level 3 - 10 spheres, 55 initial damage, 15 burning damage.

 

[Element of Water]

Wow, really good, I'll have to do well to top that! Unfortunate you did it in GUI, so it isn't that efficient. Mind you, you don't have any periodic events so it doesn't matter that much.I was slightly disappointed by the burning "spheres", however, as there don't seem to be any "spheres".

 

[Just_Spectating]

haha, well then, ill change the model to spheres then


EDIT: edited my submission post, fixed a few things, and changed the model to Sphere

 

[Kingz]

@Just_Spectating
I liked your spell, simple yet efficent...
The things i didn't like:
-Hero level is 1,make it atleast 2 on the start
-Tree spawning points
-You used bunch of dummies(9 total)
-You used a lot of dummy abilities(why do you need magic densify?)
-You could just use Create Special Effect instead of using a dummy unit as a effect
-Make the map explored
-Add more heroes to make it easier to test is it MUI

[lol]
You still have a coment in the Trees of Seeds Cast trigger sayingefault melee game initialization for all players

 

[Palaslayer]

haha! finally, i've got the winning idea ^^

my old one was a little to hard to do, (if someone wannsa know it pm me )
starting at the we...

 

[Justify]

Are you kidding me? xD All my ideas suck hard :/ either they're boring or too common >.<

 

[Palaslayer]

my old theme was blood and something like a stacking berserk and i thought uh do i really have to do the damn spell?

but now, wow this really fits the theme and is realistic ^^

 

[xXMephistoXx]

Here's my submission:
I ironically called my spells for something related to the word "Synergy"
Requires "Jass NewGen Pack", I think (Doesn't use any custom jass-functions, but was saved with the NewGen-Editor).

Spell:	Type:
Synergy: Throws a magically enhanced orb at an enemy, damaging it and enabeling some extra spell-effects for the caster. Cooldown decreases with level. Level 1 - Does 50 damage to the target. Level 2 - Does 75 damage to the target. Level 3 - Does 100 damage to the target.	MUI
Synergy Spells: This spell damages the targeted unit and enables some spell-effects for the caster. Damage increases and cooldown decreases with level. Level 1 - Each spell does 50 damage to the target. Level 2 - Each spell does 75 damage to the target. Level 3 - Each spell does 100 damage to the target. Contain: If the targeted unit have the Synergy buff, he will be contained for 3/4/5 seconds. Hinder: If the targeted unit have the Synergy buff, he will be slowed by 75/100/150% for 15 seconds. Manifest: If the targeted unit have the Synergy buff, he will take 10/15/20 damage per second for 30 seconds. This spell also ignores Spell Immunity.	MUI
Synergy Wards: Summons an immobile energy ward to cast Synergy randomly at enemy units. The ward is invulnerable and immune to magic. Duration increases with level. Level 1 - Summons 1 ward. Has level 1 Synergy. Level 2 - Summons 2 wards. Has level 2 Synergy. Level 3 - Summons 3 wards. Has level 3 Synergy.	MPI

At least they should work

EDIT: Small edits to the terrain, the tooltips and a little to the info, nothing that influences how the spells work.

 

[Eccho]

Ive missed alot I see... like, 4 pages omygewd since last time I replied.

Welcome to the contest Mephisto I've rarely seen you around here before.
If anyone wonders I have been banned to use my computer from Mondays to Thursdays, so, Ill check everything tomorrow.

Looks interesting Mephisto, I am checking tomorrow

 

[xXMephistoXx]

Well thank you, Eccho =)
I didn't notice there was Spell and system Contest until the middle of number 17 xP
By then it was too late to register for that one, so I just sat around, waiting for this one!

 

[xD.Schurke]

so my idea owns... only problem, i have the bad feeling that others dont think so
already started and will finish this weekend.
Good luck to all others

 

[Paladon]

If anyone has problems with triggering..i could help out^^

 

[Palaslayer]

u are unoccupated ^^

 

[Just_Spectating]

@Just_Spectating
I liked your spell, simple yet efficent...
The things i didn't like:
-Hero level is 1,make it atleast 2 on the start
-Tree spawning points
-You used bunch of dummies(9 total)
-You used a lot of dummy abilities(why do you need magic densify?)
-You could just use Create Special Effect instead of using a dummy unit as a effect
-Make the map explored
-Add more heroes to make it easier to test is it MUI

[lol]
You still have a coment in the Trees of Seeds Cast trigger sayingefault melee game initialization for all players

-fixed
-its supposed to be random (ill change tooltip)
-theres only 6 :/ the treants arent dummies
-heh, used magic densify for a different method before and forgot to remove it.
-which special effect?
-done
-done

 

[nerovesper]

Here's my spell for the contest.
DISMAL CHANGE + MAGNUS EXORCISM

Dismal Change:
Turns units in an area into an undead, reducing their speed for a period of time. If unit is already an undead it deals damage.
Level 1 - 20% slow for 10 seconds or 60 damage.
Level 2 - 30% slow for 12 seconds or 120 damage.
Level 3 - 40% slow for 14 seconds or 180 damage.

Magnus Exorcism:
Purifies a target area with the holy property healing allied units inside the holy ground. If an undead enemy enters the area, it receives damage and mini stun every 0.25 seconds that the unit is in the area.
Level 1 - 3% hit point per second, 10 damage, lasts 10 seconds.
Level 2 - 4% hit point per second, 15 damage, lasts 12 seconds.
Level 3 - 5% hit point per second, 20 damage, lasts 14 seconds.

I hope it fits the theme...

It doesn't look to good testing it with neutrals. You can't sometimes see the flinching effect on them...

EDIT: Updated... added little effects
EDIT2: Fixed some things...

 

[Element of Water]

@nerovesper
I like the spells, but I have some points to make:
1. "Turn Undead" is the name of spells in several games which cause undead to run away from you. This one turns them into undead? I think you need to either change the spell's name or redo the spell.

2. Usually, undead units don't have more or less attack damage, but just attack or move slower.

3. Maybe Magnus Exorcism should heal friendly living units, or add some positive buff to them, and damage/stun/slow undead rather than just slowing everything that goes in there. I think it would improve the spell, and it would leave you free to carry out my other suggestions.

All in all, good spell, but I think it has some issues with what those "elements" or "forces" you are using usually do.