Sc2 = Wc3 modding's death?

[Serbianbeast]

Well after im done with my Tribe Wars, my ultimate project that im working on for past year and a few months, i will move to sc2, or at least focus on it, but i will never forget wc3 modding and the stuff it did for me

 

[The Curse]

Fantasy and Sci-fi do mix quite well under certain circumstances.

Take Warhammer 40k for example.

 

[Parrothead]

What I want to know is who named it scumedit...

 

[MadseN]

Would be cool to try out the SC2 editor, hopefully it's as powerful as the wc3editor. But i won't leave Wc3 Terraining, that's for sure.

/MadseN

 

[Jaakko]

Would be cool to try out the SC2 editor, hopefully it's as powerful as the wc3editor. But i won't leave Wc3 Terraining, that's for sure.

/MadseN

My words exactly. But the SC2 editor will most likely be far more powerful than wc3editor. One guestion mark is that will there be ingame cinematics, maybe they have the system for it at least in the editor.

 

[Gilles]

I'm guessing we won't be able to terrain the same in scumedit. The screens I've seen don't have any height variation.

 

[MySpaceBarBroke]

When wc3 came out, I heard a lot of my peers say "I'll play it, but I'll still stick with sc", a few days before they abandon sc for wc3.

 

[TheDivineBoss]

Dominio effect. If one sheep crosses the bridge then the rest will follow. Allways like that.

 

[Gilles]

Dominio effect. If one sheep crosses the bridge then the rest will follow. Allways like that.

I think it takes more than one! It also takes a good game.

 

[TheDivineBoss]

Dominomus (aka sparrow in english) ftw. Guy who shot the bird (23.000 stones) got threatend with death, cool aint it?

Back to topic: I think Wc3 will die over a while and a Sc2 version of Dota appear so the whole f*cking game will get f*cked up and all will go to WoW or any other MMoRPG.

 

[Eleandor]

If the 4mb limit is increased, I sure hope people will mod SC2 into a warcraft "4" game. The tilesets already allow fantasyworlds (jungle, volcano, ...). The only tileset that couldn't be used is the Installation/space platform tileset.
That means all "imports" that have to be made are models / sounds of the 4 races. Hopefully remade versions because the wc3 models will look like shit in SC2, if they can even be used there.

speaking of the bunkertileset...
If anyone has read Thorgal, wouldn't it be great to have a map/campaign based on that world? It merges Fantasy / Sci fi in a great way IMO.

 

[Gilles]

I think Fantasy and Sci-Fi in one can be sweet. Warhammer does a good job.

 

[LordDz]

heck , It would be quite fun to play wc3 on space platform tileset.. Undead would be the only one able to survive.

 

[TheDivineBoss]

Check the map called Parasite 2 (v1.11) from DarkShoGun. It has a spacey platform terrain.

 

[Jacek]

undeads need air to breathe as well...

 

[SuPa-]

I don't plan to model for SC2 until it's actually possible to model/texture for it, if that ever happens. WC3 won't die after SC2 comes out, it'll just go thin.

Hopefully we might get more popularity here after it comes out

 

[LordDz]

undeads need air to breathe as well...

Didn't thought Skeleton Warriors did drink, eat or even breathe. But sure, Necros and Workers does, but they aren't really dead, yet.

 

[Eleandor]

undeads need air to breathe as well...

How's that? What happens if they don't? They die?

 

[TheDivineBoss]

No, since they are already dead but yet again alive that means they're undead! And dead things don't need to breath! But livings things do... So it depends on certain undeady things?

 

[Killface]

WoW probably wouldn't die since about 1 billion play it. What will probably kill WoW is if Blizzard were to make UoS. (Universe of Starcraft)

 

[Steel_Stallion]

were to make UoS. (Universe of Starcraft)

You know what they need to do, make an MMOFPSRPG. A real time action MMO that could be on 360 and PC (because theres a feature where 360 users and PC users can play with each other). So that people with bad coms can use 360, and people who complain about 360 and have leet comps can use PC. FPS madnesss.....

Make a MMOFPSRPG Out of starcraft....yeah...

 

[LordDz]

You know what they need to do, make an MMOFPSRPG. A real time action MMO that could be on 360 and PC (because theres a feature where 360 users and PC users can play with each other). So that people with bad coms can use 360, and people who complain about 360 and have leet comps can use PC. FPS madnesss.....

Make a MMOFPSRPG Out of starcraft....yeah...

Hellgate:London here we go..

But that was mostly a bad tryment of it..

 

[TheDivineBoss]

Hellgate: London hasn't really has a good FPS engine, since the shooting and stuff looks unreal and those creeps have to deal with melee and magic dudes too.

 

[undeadorcjerk]

WoW probably wouldn't die since about 1 billion play it. What will probably kill WoW is if Blizzard were to make UoS. (Universe of Starcraft)

9 million play it... your 991 million short of a billion there dude.

 

[TheDivineBoss]

Every guy on WoW pays $15 per month.

$15 x 9.000.000 = 135.000.000 per month

135.000.000 x 12 = 1.620.000.000 aka 1,62 BILLION dollars.

And how long has WoW been here? 4 years. (2004)

$1,62 Bill x 4 = 6.480.000.000

AND THAT'S A LOT. Dude those guys are (...)ing RICH!

 

[MySpaceBarBroke]

Every guy on WoW pays $15 per month.

$15 x 9.000.000 = 135.000.000 per month

135.000.000 x 12 = 1.620.000.000 aka 1,62 BILLION dollars.

And how long has WoW been here? 4 years. (2004)

$1,62 Bill x 4 = 6.480.000.000

AND THAT'S A LOT. Dude those guys are (...)ing RICH!

Assuming those 9 million were there since the beginning, and they spend none of it on stupid things, like other employees and making new games.

Nonetheless, Blizzard is a giant.

 

[TheDivineBoss]

I wonder how much they will pay you over there...

 

[LordDz]

I think you've got a pretty big chance of getting fired too, as some GMs on WoW says wrong things - KICKED!

 

[JetFangInferno]

They'll make some futuristic DOTA shit and warcraft will suddenly lose over 50% of its players =/

 

[Moontraveler]

Good nobody will miss the dota players back a WC3.

 

[ADemon]

I don't agree. Long live Warcraft 3!!!!

 

[redmarine]

Starcraft 2 will feature leveling systems. Check "StarCraft II Q&A Archive- Karune Briefings" out
Hm.. It doens't say anything about it in the batches but Karune has stated it in one of the threads on Starcraft 2 forums or somewhere else.
http://www.battle.net/forums/thread.aspx?fn=sc2-general&t=1&p=1&#post1

 

[Voidwalker]

They'll make some futuristic DOTA shit and warcraft will suddenly lose over 99.9~% of its players =/

Fixed.

Besides, if Wc3 had no DotA no one would ever play it. Believe it. In the outer world, DotA is the only thing that keeps Wc3 known.

 

[Massive_attack]

I don't believe that.
My friends are more likely to know about Wc3 because of WoW than DotA

However, if that was referring to Asia only, yes i would agree with you.

 

[Deathcom3s]

I think i'll stick with Wc3. I like fantasy more than sci-fi but sci-fi is still cool. DotA is pretty lame if you ask me, I won't miss the DotA players.

 

[TheDivineBoss]

DotT = Defend of the Terran

-_-''

 

[PurgeandFire]

As much as I like Warcraft 3, I feel that the Sc2 editor will be gigantically better. It is like an inevitable truth, that Sc2 will have more mods and features than the regular wc3 editor. I just hope all this is true.

 

[redmarine]

As much as I like Warcraft 3, I feel that the Sc2 editor will be gigantically better. It is like an inevitable truth, that Sc2 will have more mods and features than the regular wc3 editor. I just hope all this is true.

I fully hope that it will be so much powerful and we would be able to add a lot more physic into the game.
Btw we got some awesome moddelers on these site so we don't have to worry about missing models.

 

[Daminon]

Who care's about wc3 or sc2 modding? :}

 

[redmarine]

Who care's about wc3 or sc2 modding? :}

Uh... Perhaps like everyone on this site?

 

[Ash]

The Poll choices aren't the best, although I expect that if the SC2 editor lives up to blizzards statement of being 'a lot more powerful', then it's highly likely that SC2 mods will be better than WC3. And, on top of that, I suspect that somebody will eventually develop a tool/SC2 editor that lets you create 'Hero Units' that would operate in the same way that WC3 Heroes would. Who knows, World Editor, the one that comes with SC2, might already let you do it.

 

[Grade A Kill]

heres the thing, SC2 edting differs from warcraft in a few ways:
Warcraft 3:
-creeps, starcraft 2 for all i know doesn't have them.
-Heros, they lvl up and make great RPG games, + you can make wow instances.
-Spells, warcraft 3 has lots and lots and lots of spells, SC2 doesn't have things like wardens fan of knives.
-Items, SC2 may not have items or attributes for heros.

SC2 modding:
-starcraft maps, like TD or someone may make a Zergling extermination game.
-people may just make big battle maps, like you control a special ops unit, you control him and only him in a huge battle around you.

WC3 and SC2 will not cancel one or the other out, SC2 might be easier to use but warcraft three has many things over SC2.

 

[Ash]

-creeps, starcraft 2 for all i know doesn't have them.

Creeps are just, technically, units that don't belong to a player. Therefore, if I was to give several units to a computer without any AI (I.E not giving them commands like move to/random point in region etc) then they'd be 'creeps'.

-Heros, they lvl up and make great RPG games, + you can make wow instances.

Hopefully blizzard will realise that heroes did make a big impact on WC3 Custom Gamers and add an option to create units with 'hero' status. Failing that, myself and others, I am sure, will start trying to create something that resembles the WC3 hero system.

-Spells, warcraft 3 has lots and lots and lots of spells, SC2 doesn't have things like wardens fan of knives.

Custom spells can be made within WC3, I can't see why they won't be made within SC2.

-Items, SC2 may not have items or attributes for heros.

At the moment, SC2 doesn't have heroes.

-starcraft maps, like TD or someone may make a Zergling extermination game.
-people may just make big battle maps, like you control a special ops unit, you control him and only him in a huge battle around you.

Hurhurhur... Lolwut?

WC3 and SC2 will not cancel one or the other out, SC2 might be easier to use but warcraft three has many things over SC2.

Editors are just basic tools, they've remained basically the same throughout the creation of WC2, SC and WC3. I don't believe one, nor the other, will be easier to use. But I do believe, however, that users will push them to their limits and create bigger and better maps.

 

[redmarine]

The leveling feature will be implemented into the editor as well as the items. Karune a Blizzard moderator has stated that.
The main problem with Warcraft III is that it had too many boundaries.

 

[Tyranid]

heres the thing, SC2 edting differs from warcraft in a few ways:
Warcraft 3:
-creeps, starcraft 2 for all i know doesn't have them.
-Heros, they lvl up and make great RPG games, + you can make wow instances.
-Spells, warcraft 3 has lots and lots and lots of spells, SC2 doesn't have things like wardens fan of knives.
-Items, SC2 may not have items or attributes for heros.

SC2 modding:
-starcraft maps, like TD or someone may make a Zergling extermination game.
-people may just make big battle maps, like you control a special ops unit, you control him and only him in a huge battle around you.

WC3 and SC2 will not cancel one or the other out, SC2 might be easier to use but warcraft three has many things over SC2.

You have not read into SC 2, have you. The Map editor includes the WC 3 hero system, including inventory and items and I can BET that it will have the possibility to make our own spells. I would expect everything from WC 3 editor to be in SC 2 editor too.

Also Blizzard is going to include atleast some of the lost units from SC 1 in the map editor and also all the cancelled units from SC 2 will be in the editor so they should be alot of models to choose from.

 

[Eleandor]

Grade A Kill, everything you tell has been confirmed to be false like half a year ago. Have you been living underneath a rock or something?

 

[redmarine]

Guys we need to spamm the Blizzard editor thread about allowing us to have more than 20+ players for RPG, TD etc.

 

[Tyranid]

Guys we need to spamm the Blizzard editor thread about allowing us to have more than 20+ players for RPG, TD etc.

Aaah the sweet, sweet lag.

 

[redmarine]

Aaah the sweet, sweet lag.

Lol... Computers aren't sucky anymore. Most of the computers which are bought nowdays are very good and can handle a lot of stuff.

 

[Tyranid]

Lol... Computers aren't sucky anymore. Most of the computers which are bought nowdays are very good and can handle a lot of stuff.

And not all players have these computers... So may have a little older ones which can still handle this game, but not all those uber 100 maps linked together with 30 players -games.