Round Table of Arkain

[merlockqueen]

wow I went from being 50-50 on the orc book to being WHEN CAN I HAVE IT. that's pretty awesome stuff on its way im excited.

A very belated APRIL FOOLS i thought we should have at least one

NightElves!

In case you missed the secret mission you can unlock NIGHTELVES to help gardon on his quest!

I did this through the editor dont kill me please Shar please XD.

 

[LISBOAH]

A very belated APRIL FOOLS i thought we should have at least one

NightElves!

In case you missed the secret mission you can unlock NIGHTELVES to help gardon on his quest! View attachment 295913 View attachment 295914

Firstly, don't post two posts one after the other.

Second, how did you do that?

 

[Shar Dundred]

So Amari is practically Vanessa's step-sister (or is it adoptive sister?)

Adoptive sister, yes.

Wow. Sasrogarn is really the Butt Monkey on the Arkain series isn't he? What is the reason for this Shar?

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Okri's backstory is messed up. Really, humans rape orcs? That is disturbing, even by Arkain standards!

And there's also humans who fall for demons with wings, horns and tails.
Humans on Arkain aren't the heroes in shiny armor. Well, not all of them, anyway.

 

[LISBOAH]

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You made him totally unlikeable. van Durce, for example, at least is competent; his soldiers liked him and even Gardon seemed regretful that they had to fight. Sasrogarn, on the other hand...

And there's also humans who fall for demons with wings, horns and tails.
Humans on Arkain aren't the heroes in shiny armor. Well, not all of them, anyway.

Not to sound racist or anything, but the succubus are somewhat attractive, which they use it to seduce others.

Humans find orcs as nothing more but savages, and yet they rape their females? That is downright sick and hypocritical.

It is very hard to find a human in Arkain with high levels of decency and morality. At least, find some that manage to both survive and reach high positions...

 

[Shar Dundred]

You made him totally unlikeable. van Durce, for example, at least is competent; his soldiers liked him and even Gardon seemed regretful that they had to fight. Sasrogarn, on the other hand...

I think it all began with me giving him Lightning Shield.
His sister Amari has the competence he is lacking.

Not to sound racist or anything,

We're not talking about different ethical groups of humans here, so a bit of racism is okayish.
I mean, how many anti-elf comments do we have in the past 200 pages? Or how often have Orcs been insulted?
I don't even want to start counting and it is nothing wrong with it.
Inhuman bastards!

Humans find orcs as nothing more but savages, and yet they rape their females? That is downright sick and hypocritical.

I need to stress that we're talking about a single individual here who did this disgusting thing.
I am fairly sure that most Humans just kill them on sight.
I cannot imagine Blen, for example, not punishing his soldiers if they had done something like that.

It is very hard to find a human in Arkain with high levels of decency and morality. At least, find some that manage to both survive and reach high positions...

#RIPBlen

 

[Championfighter25]

Given the orcs' "tradition" of fighting among themselves and their wars consist on pillaging and destroying everything on sight, I would assume that they turned their homeland into an uninhabitable place.

If their land is filled with them, then I guess they are either on a state of never-ending war, which might explain why some decided to flee to another continent, or they live somewhat in harmony.

My man, i guess you've never read this book. It's going to be in libraries soon so i highly suggest it. I will drop your IQ by about a 100 after you're finished, so I'd also be a bit cautious though.

I think it all began with me giving him Lightning Shield.
His sister Amari has the competence he is lacking.

Please just, give him... an empty void instead of lightning shield once you update the 1st orc book, it's going to be a lot better.

I cannot imagine Blen, for example, not punishing his soldiers if they had done something like that.

He didn't punish them for murdering orc children and he also may have murdered some as well so, there is a slight chance that he would be indifferent.

 

[Kasrkin]

You made him totally unlikeable. van Durce, for example, at least is competent; his soldiers liked him and even Gardon seemed regretful that they had to fight. Sasrogarn, on the other hand...

Even as I helped write new dialogue for Sassy years back it always felt like a lie and I remember the quotes people posted about his bravado and cruelty I wrote some of those. It never felt true like it was a man trying to play up his image.

 

[Championfighter25]

Even as I helped write new dialogue for Sassy years back it always felt like a lie and I remember the quotes people posted about his bravado and cruelty I wrote some of those. It never felt true like it was a man trying to play up his image.

Don't tell me you wrote most of his lines in chapter 6 'a deadly breeze'. I should have found them menacing, but i actually laughed when i heard them.

 

[Shar Dundred]

My man, i guess you've never read this book. It's going to be in libraries soon so i highly suggest it. I will drop your IQ by about a 100 after you're finished, so I'd also be a bit cautious though.

This is gonna make me rich.

 

[vinco]

Are undead ork exist in arkain?

 

[LISBOAH]

Are undead ork exist in arkain?

The undead can raise anyone into undead, so obviously undead orcs exist.

Imagine that some of those ghouls, skeleton warriors and abominations are made of orc corpses.

 

[Shar Dundred]

On one hand there's also the Orc Skeletons that you can raise with Necrolytes and the fact that
the Undead consist of most races, as @LISBOAH pointed out.

On the other hand...

Spoiler: ScaryThought

 

[LISBOAH]

On one hand there's also the Orc Skeletons that you can raise with Necrolytes and the fact that
the Undead consist of most races, as @LISBOAH pointed out.

On the other hand...

Spoiler: ScaryThought

Will we either face or have Orc Death Knights in the future?

 

[vinco]

Who is stronger Brian or Rahandir?

 

[Championfighter25]

Who is stronger Brian or Rahandir?

If they use their full power i'd say it's a tie.

 

[LISBOAH]

Who is stronger Brian or Rahandir?

Most likely Brian as he possesses the powers of the Lord of Shadows.

The best proof is that he apparently was capable of staying hidden from Aridon, that or Aridon wasn't going to confront him without proper preparations and backup.

 

[Boriss]

And there's also humans who fall for demons with wings, horns and tails.
Humans on Arkain aren't the heroes in shiny armor. Well, not all of them, anyway.

Does that mean that Eredar indeed ARE a thing in Arkain? Are there any non-demonic relatives to any of the demonic races?
Relatives in the term of common ancestry?

 

[LISBOAH]

Does that mean that Eredar indeed ARE a thing in Arkain? Are there any non-demonic relatives to any of the demonic races?
Relatives in the term of common ancestry?

If you hadn't notice there are Eredar sorcerers in the demon forces.

I guess Demons aren't exactly a race, but instead the definition given to several species that come from the Void. Like for example, we calling Primates to the group composed of chimpazes, gorillas, gibbons, etc...

 

[Boriss]

If you hadn't notice there are Eredar sorcerers in the demon forces.

I guess Demons aren't exactly a race, but instead the definition given to several species that come from the Void. Like for example, we calling Primates to the group composed of chimpazes, gorillas, gibbons, etc...

Well, given that some demons look like mammals, others are more insect-like and some are just ugh, I don´t think there is any biological connection between them. And there are some night elf models in that game. Recolored and stuff, still based on night elf models even when there are no night elves in Arkain. So the name Eredar sorcerer might just be some occult name rather than the name of their species.

 

[vinco]

The best proof is that he apparently was capable of staying hidden from Aridon, that or Aridon wasn't going to confront him without proper preparations and backup.

In fourth it is sad that he is aridons old friend

 

[Championfighter25]

I guess Demons aren't exactly a race, but instead the definition given to several species that come from the Void. Like for example, we calling Primates to the group composed of chimpazes, gorillas, gibbons, etc...

They certainly aren't a singular race. A group of races that sort of have a common root, since they originate from the same homeland, would be the best way to describe them, in my opinion.

 

[Boriss]

Shar, you mentioned some time ago that the final version of the second human book will have an intro where you will click all your choices from the first book. Is that still valid? How is it going?

 

[renegade]

Firstly, don't post two posts one after the other.

Second, how did you do that?

He obviously messed around with the World Editor

 

[Boriss]

He obviously messed around with the World Editor

The campaign should not be accessible to edit via the editor. OR at least I have not managed to access it.

 

[Shar Dundred]

Will we either face or have Orc Death Knights in the future?

I assure you that you are going to encounter what I have shown you on that pic sooner or later.

Shar, you mentioned some time ago that the final version of the second human book will have an intro where you will click all your choices from the first book. Is that still valid? How is it going?

Already finished that one and it is working perfectly fine.

The campaign should not be accessible to edit via the editor. OR at least I have not managed to access it.

The less people touch Arkain in the editor, the better.

 

[badest]

even the update on the golden guard army get new units,the combination of the human army are still very strange.
It is too rely on the melee unit like paladin or knight of kome,
and it lack of the ranged unit or normal aerial units,
only have crossbowman or marksman as land ranged unit
or rely on destructior or black dragon as air force.
Human strong because of the heros are OP and the war aura from Gardon.

For example ,Anyone can finish chapter 9 without using desturtor to stealth the demon gates?

 

[LISBOAH]

It is too rely on the melee unit like paladin or knight of kome,
and it lack of the ranged unit or normal aerial units,
only have crossbowman or marksman as land ranged unit
or rely on destructior or black dragon as air force.

On several medieval societies, they saw melee fight to be far more honorable than using bows and crossbows. Why do you think nobles and knights always fought on the frontlines while archers tended to be composed of peasants?

Human strong because of the heros are OP and the war aura from Gardon.

Since we are facing demons, undeads, orcs, pissed elementals, between others, it is normal that the heroes that managed to survive till now had to be quite powerful. Survival of the fittest at its finest...

 

[Championfighter25]

On several medieval societies, they saw melee fight to be far more honorable than using bows and crossbows. Why do you think nobles and knights always fought on the frontlines while archers tended to be composed of peasants?

I don't think Arkain is exactly medieval. They have guns, aircraft, tanks, artillery, etc. but i get what you are trying to say. Swords require much more skills to use than bows or crossbows. And going into close combat means you are a lot braver than the person who took the bow.

Since we are facing demons, undeads, orcs, pissed elementals, between others, it is normal that the heroes that managed to survive till now had to be quite powerful. Survival of the fittest at its finest...

I'd call it survival of the Aridon decided not to send Rahandir or Krom to kill them way earlier-est.

 

[LISBOAH]

I don't think Arkain is exactly medieval. They have guns, aircraft, tanks, artillery, etc. but i get what you are trying to say. Swords require much more skills to use than bows or crossbows. And going into close combat means you are a lot braver than the person who took the bow.

Yep. Anyone can grab an arrow, fire and kill someone at the distance... To show their courage, men of nobility should fight their foes and see their eyes lose their light as they die by their hands.

Of course on some cases the knights died for this bravery (like at Angicourt) and we only see them as fools for charging straight to an army of archers.

I'd call it survival of the Aridon decided not to send Rahandir or Krom to kill them way earlier-est.

Aridon can't be everywhere or can he (conspiracy theorist)?

Gardon survided facing off Demons, Forgotten Ones, Orcs, Murlocs, Genethas' forces, Undead, Elves, Golden Guard, Retka's forces... So naturally he had to be quite strong as a hero.

 

[Championfighter25]

To show their courage, men of nobility should fight their foes and see their eyes lose their light as they die by their hands.

Tell that to Sasrogarn. I feel like he should just go get a sword, charge and kill himself. He'll be doing everyone a favor.

Aridon can't be everywhere or can he (conspiracy theorist)?

Technically he can take control of almost any undead from afar and order it to kill his master, so somewhat.

Gardon survided facing off Demons, Forgotten Ones, Orcs, Murlocs, Genethas' forces, Undead, Elves, Golden Guard, Retka's forces... So naturally he had to be quite strong as a hero.

I can't take Murlocs as a legitimate threat, but for everyone else you are correct. Actually, wait, I take that back, orcs and elves were no threat too. I just had to.

 

[LISBOAH]

Tell that to Sasrogarn. I feel like he should just go get a sword, charge and kill himself. He'll be doing everyone a favor.

Nah, given the amount of times we "killed" several heroes and it turns out they survived somehow, he would most likely survive.

I can't take Murlocs as a legitimate threat, but for everyone else you are correct. Actually, wait, I take that back, orcs and elves were no threat too. I just had to.

The murlocs are a very high population so they basically would swarm us with numbers until we all died.

The only reason elves were a threat was because they had the support of the Golden Guard, so yeah.

 

[Boriss]

The one reason why handguns were being implemented at the beginning of the 16th century was that to train an archer takes too god damn long. Archers trained their whole life. Huntsmen mostly. So, claiming that archers were peasants because its easier to learn with bow than sword is not true. Most commonly used were actually polearms, pikes, spears, axes. To just put arrow on place, aim in random direction and let loose is not archery. Example: you can beat someone with club. Primitive, stupid club. That is not macemanship (the same as swordsmanship, just with maces).

 

[Championfighter25]

The one reason why handguns were being implemented at the beginning of the 16th century was that to train an archer takes too god damn long. Archers trained their whole life. Huntsmen mostly. So, claiming that archers were peasants because its easier to learn with bow than sword is not true. Most commonly used were actually polearms, pikes, spears, axes. To just put arrow on place, aim in random direction and let loose is not archery. Example: you can beat someone with club. Primitive, stupid club. That is not macemanship (the same as swordsmanship, just with maces).

Ok, saying bows are easier to use than swords may have been wrong on my part.
It really depends on the skills of the soldier.
Someone like Krom has concentration, speed and precision so a bow is the preferred weapon for him.
I even wonder if he's ever failed to assassinate someone?
While someone like Gardon puts a lot of dedication and strength in his blows so a sword is the preferred weapon for him.

 

[Boriss]

Ok, saying bows are easier to use than swords may have been wrong on my part.
It really depends on the skills of the soldier.
Someone like Krom has concentration, speed and precision so a bow is the preferred weapon for him.
I even wonder if he's ever failed to assassinate someone?
While someone like Gardon puts a lot of dedication and strength in his blows so a sword is the preferred weapon for him.

With nobles it was usually about the "honourable" way. It is somewhat described in Kingdom Come: Deliverance, in the ending. The ending of the long siege and release of hostages.

 

[Milan Milovanović]

Hey Shar, im relly impressed with these campaigns and i would like to make a videoes, with your permission of course, of all cutscenes and dialogues in campaigns so people could better understand story.

Im expecting your reply as soon as possible.

 

[Championfighter25]

Hey Shar, im relly impressed with these campaigns and i would like to make a videoes, with your permission of course, of all cutscenes and dialogues in campaigns so people could better understand story.

Even i can tell you that Shar has nothing against people doing Arkain videos. So go ahead.

 

[Boriss]

Even i can tell you that Shar has nothing against people doing Arkain videos. So go ahead.

Of course if Shar does not like those vids, their creator will be used as ammo for peasant-lobber
Haven´t heard Kasrkin in a while. We sure he didn´t fall unconscious from the testing?

 

[Shar Dundred]

Hey Shar, im relly impressed with these campaigns and i would like to make a videoes, with your permission of course, of all cutscenes and dialogues in campaigns so people could better understand story.

As long as you link the campaign sub-forum or alternatively the campaigns in the map section, I am absolutely fine with you doing that.
Just keep in mind that both the Second Human Book and the First Orc Book are going to be overhauled,
not only gameplay but also cinematic and storywise.

Haven´t heard Kasrkin in a while. We sure he didn´t fall unconscious from the testing?

Two pages past
He is still going, I can tell you that.

 

[Championfighter25]

Just keep in mind that both the Second Human Book and the First Orc Book are going to be overhauled,
not only gameplay but also cinematic and storywise.

Will you also be updating the 1st undead book before beggining the 2nd orc one?

 

[Shar Dundred]

Currently no plans on that, I am quite happy with the Undead.

 

[Boriss]

Currently no plans on that, I am quite happy with the Undead.

The first human book, final mission. If you corrupt Aedale, the mission becomes so much harder. You lose 2 heroes and gain attack wave of 2 demons that move waaaay ahead of the Kome forces and they just get slaughtered, making do difference at all.
Sooo maybe the last mission of the 1st human book? I love that book and its story.

 

[Shar Dundred]

I am aware of the issues in that chapter, updating it is on my to-do-list.
Along with many other things.

 

[Boriss]

I am aware of the issues in that chapter, updating it is on my to-do-list.
Along with many other things.

Understood. Don´t forget to take a pause from time to time. Will keep you fresh and eager. Wish you luck and hope to hear from Arkain News Network soon!

 

[LickMyEyeBall]

Would be nice to see the final chapter of FHB RTS-stylish again. The rest seemed fine to me except from that bug about Salomar's items not transfering to the next chapter, which I believe ive submitted long ago.

 

[Shar Dundred]

News!

 

[Boriss]

Let´s hope Battle.net will autodownload that patch. Anyway, eager to see your magic at work Shar.

 

[LickMyEyeBall]

So let me get this straight. Now we are able to put more objects on a map with this new patch, right? But wouldnt it affect the game's performance?

 

[Championfighter25]

So let me get this straight. Now we are able to put more objects on a map with this new patch, right? But wouldnt it affect the game's performance?

I doubt it will make a big difference. Maybe you'll need a bit of a stronger computer to run the campaign, but nothing major.
Arkain already has very big battles and Shar doesn't exactly fancy terrain, so the campaign lagging a lot won't probably happen.

 

[Boriss]

I doubt it will make a big difference. Maybe you'll need a bit of a stronger computer to run the campaign, but nothing major.
Arkain already has very big battles and Shar doesn't exactly fancy terrain, so the campaign lagging a lot won't probably happen.

There are already modding tools that allow such. Tools created by the community. So by playing maps created using such tools nope, it wont affect anything apart from the scale of stuff.

 

[Kasrkin]

-rages incoherently at patch-

That took too long to get working, not much progress made.