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[Campaign] Rise of the Horde

Discussion in 'Map Development' started by Hardtime, Oct 9, 2014.

  1. Yousef

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    Great, will these items use abilities? Like a small critical strike chance or roar?
     
  2. MogulKahn

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    I just tried to tell you to consider some other things, but as always you are just being di*k.
    You know, sometimes you need to hear opinions of the others, because maybe they have better idea than you, and that is just going to improve your map ! But whatever... :thumbs_down:
     
  3. Ragnoras

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    i was thinkn of this;

    Wolf kennels' trainablea


    Tamed Wolf; A strong fast wolf with true sight and can learn bite

    Wolf Rider; A warrior mounted on a woof: effective against buildings can learn ensnare and bite



    other ideas;



    Thunder Hawk; A spirit snow hawk summoned by shamans that shoots lightning at enemies' can cast chain lightning and can learn eagle sight


    Wind Guardian; A huge mystical bird made of winds and summoned by shamans: effective against groups of units' can learn tornado and gashing winda
     
  4. Wolffman

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    Pretty cool ideas Ragnaros, I'll try and implement them onto the Unit table for Hardtime, but it'll take a while :ogre_haosis:

    Well, not to be rude, but you didn't consider the fact that the Draenei techtree itself took a long while to be established, and once again, not to be rude, but you're quite wrong if you think that no brainstorming and etc was put into the work. The amount of models for Draenei's are extremely limited so it's not really as easy as you may think to just whip out a change in a unit or hero.
    This is supposed to be a way-more unique techtree than the ones used in Altered Melees, so using something different isn't wrong.
    It also appears that you may have some personal problems with Hardtime, if so, then please take it somewhere else, because he is the project leader, but there are others there to help him out with this, and provide ideas. We're taking ideas from you guys aswell, but we can't implement EVERYTHING into a campaign. Now, those are just my two cents..
     
  5. Hardtime

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    Whatever. It'd be a big hassle to change one of them since I've set all animation art and shadows in WE accurately. I not gonna change any model. Maybe re-skins or different models but with the same animations and the base. Oh and hey, I never insulted you. I never called you a dick first. I was just saying that everything was set accordingly already. What's your problem man? I accepted your opinion but you have to understand that Im gonna have my own opinion about yours too.
     
  6. Hayate

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    thats a little disappointing as the modeler of this project... (Don't Mind Me, I'm A "Little OCD")
     
  7. Ragnoras

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    hehe i jus' have frostwolf 2 flywrs in no time!
     
  8. Hardtime

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    Heh I meant for the Draenei xD it's just trouble to rework the internal settings and art animations of each model. I'm willing to replace some models if they're either re-skins or based on the same model.
     
  9. Wolffman

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    Yeah, but we also have another model, I'm not sure if you know or not :p
    Now there's 3 Flyers if we include both of yours..
     
  10. Hardtime

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    Hmm by hawk you mean Kaliri and by wolf you mean Frostwolf right?
     
  11. Ragnoras

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    oh i meant only wolf and for their shamanic ways i thoughr spirits are a goos idea
     
  12. Hardtime

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    Oh man, the Frostwolf will only have tech-tree up to Tier 2 because they're eventually gonna transform into the Horde in the middle of the campaign but I'll try to push those ideas through the tech-tree. When this is done, we're gonna make melee maps that consist the Arakkoa, the Draenei, the Ogre, and the Orcish races.
     
  13. Mythic

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    Ragnoras, I suggest you explain what the learn-ables are. (Bite, Eagle Sight, Gashing Wind)
     
  14. kakuzu

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    So how is it going ?
     
  15. sonofjay

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    The only reason that I was intrigued to the point that I'll comment on this thread is that you have the Frostwolf Clan and Durotan but before I subscribe myself here. Do you guys can really pull it off? Because this post is really concerning.

    Its rare to see a project to have Durotan as one of the main characters so I really hope you guys can pull this one.
     
  16. MogulKahn

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    As I said in my previous post, I just wanted to express myself, nothing else... One tip from me: sometimes it is better to restart something to very beginning even if you are nearly done if you see (someone suggested, not trying to say that I did suggested something better) something better, because when you are done and you see there is some holes in it, you are never going to fix it in the right way. And it is not like you are 90% finished here...
    And what is the point of releasing this thread if you are going to bash any comments that is against your ideas... Honestly no offense here, I just wanted to say what I think. I know that hardtime is big Draenor lover and he wants to see this finished, that is why I follow this project. Keep up whit good work my friends ! Good luck, you gonna need it !
     
  17. Wolffman

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    Well, firstly, it's fine that you expressed yourself, we didn't stop you from doing it, and we didn't really say anything against it. You gave your opinion, we just said something different to it. Hardtime has already mentioned that the decision is very close-minded. We're done with the Draenei techtree basically, and are moving onto the Orcish ones, because they require more attention as of now, being that they have many important details to attend to. The Draenei tech may or may not have holes in it, but as I already said, we are fixing that. It'll take some time, but it will be fixed.

    Also, no one bashed on you for having ideas which are different than ours.. We just said that we've done a lot of work on the Draenei Techtree, and it's not really going to be plausible to remake it all over again. Also, a major reason to why you aren't really understanding our reasons for using the certain models, is because of the information we shared between each other and not to the whole thread itself. Creative decisions are quite difficult to take, but nonetheless we're going to try our best.

    Also, you went out and frankly said :-
    But also you didn't consider these :-

    Please do consider these facts, because our project really does depend on quite a bit on some idealistic opinions of other users. And also,please don't go ahead openly and call people names for no reasonable matter, it's really offensive to others, either way. To summarize the whole "fandango", you expressed your opinion, Hardtime expressed his opinion by saying that were done with that, and we wont go back to redoing it all over again, you replied with a brash comment about him, and well, things kind of went downhill from there.

    Anyway, let's just move on from that, your and others opinions are always welcome to us, but know that we can't promise to do whatever you say, because we have our own opinions and decisions to make. If we did do every opinion that was expressed, than there would be a Werewolf in the Frostwolf Clan which makes absolutely no sense whatsoever, the Vindicator would have more than it's fair share of spells, which would get confusing and the Draenei would have to get an extreme makeover which would not only take up more than the allocated quota of time, but it would result in the loss of a bunch of units and a major Hero which is necessary in our techtree..
     
  18. Hardtime

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    Point taken my friend but just let him be. He's not worth the time you spent making up this comment. I've dealt with him before and we got off on the wrong foot, that's fine I let that slide past me already, but calling me a dick in public on MY OWN thread and project? That's where I draw the line.

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    Heh, funny thing is we first started arguing when I didn't want to give him models from the old FoD thread. Now that I've made my own, he says he doesn't like the very models he asked from me a few months ago. Make up your mind. Oh and for the record, we're basically not friends. More like acquaintances in a community. (You HAD to cross the line man)

    BTW, please stop trying hard to act all professional and all that because it changes nothing. How is it better to start from scratch? Why not just revise and scrap what you already have? In our case, we are DONE. D-O-N-E with the Draenei and won't be going back unless we need re-skins. To be honest, and no offense to you and your beliefs, but I think that your advice is pretty illogical. The only time you make something from scratch is when you know you have enough time. I'm setting this campaign for release by this time next year and we still have a LONG way to go with the terrain and cinematics once we're done with the tech-tree. You have to understand this from our perspective because we can't just be like "Oh hey I wanna make a campaign and I'll put this, that, and all of those into it". That tech-tree actually to me a few weeks to figure out, even before this project was started. I'm trying to be as friendly as I can to the few subscribers here but we just can't implement what YOU guys want. This project is about what WE want to put. You can start your own Draenor themed project if you like.

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    Already have a model for Durotan ;) Though Im not using the one made by Tauer. The model Im using resembles a merge of Thrall and his appearance in WoD.
     
  19. MogulKahn

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    I am putting this stupid back and forth arguing to an end... This is my last time saying anything about this "fiasco"... This hardtime dude is always butthurt and arrogant, his every comment is like that... That is what is getting on my nerves.
    I am still going to follow this thread, but I won't comment any more, because this is HIS thread and he won't put what we guys want (like he is making this for someone else or for himself only)...
    Please stop replaying my posts...
     
  20. sonofjay

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    The irony.


    And what is wrong with that? I am like that most of the time on my projects. I mean c'mon, the developer know the shit about his/her project more than we do.

    Bullshit way to end a provoking post. You can't expect Hardtime not to comment on this when you're mostly insulting him on your post.

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    Not really here to insult you since I know you as one of the very few remaining followers of Oakwood RPG but you should seriously open your eyes to see who is being arrogant and butthurt here.
     
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