Requiem

[AntoMarc]

Looks neat! Subbed.

 

[Razosh]

I take it you've checked my pm box too?

Sounds like something I have to do well anyway good luck with project and the map size spam.

 

[Kanadaj]

Uhmm Goris... I don't want to be rude (but I will be), but what about finishing themap before deciding to remake such huge systems? xD I see the chances of this map being finished slowly fading to nothing xD With each day there is more chance of something happening to you (or your HDD)... Also, please make sure to make backups often - always expect the worst ^^

 

[Kithraya]

...what about finishing themap before deciding to remake such huge systems?

I don't really see the obstacles to do so.
I remaked systems only visually (old ones were confusing and illegible).
All things works on the old, good script. (Well, maybe I added some single options)

With each day there is more chance of something happening to you (or your HDD)... Also, please make sure to make backups often - always expect the worst ^^

Yes, I remember to make backups. Last was yesterday.
HDD crash? ;d Take it easy. We live in the 21st. xD

Thanks for your concern, anyway.

 

[PastTime]

The brand new graphical side of UI is bloody brilliant compared to the old one.
Relating to HDD crashes, it can happen in really retarded moments, especially when people tend to do something important like modding, storywriting or some other serious stuff. I guess it's somekind of embodied misfortune.

Well, hopefully nothing bad happens so you won't have to spend money on retrieving the data from HDD.
Im pretty sure that there's a couple of people around who could give you real support if needed. You would be more than welcome to ask for anything.

 

[Kanadaj]

I don't really see the obstacles to do so.
I remaked systems only visually (old ones were confusing and illegible).
All things works on the old, good script. (Well, maybe I added some single options)

Yes, I remember to make backups. Last was yesterday.
HDD crash? ;d Take it easy. We live in the 21st. xD

Thanks for your concern, anyway.

Oookay.

Well, even in the 21st century the Operation Systems (especially Windows) can do nasty things, like accidentaly deleting some system files, so your PC won't ever boot again without reinstall, or crashing during defragment - which causes the data being transported to be lost...

Anyways, you're welcome, I'm always there to pinpoint where something can fail

 

[RiotZ]

Oookay.

Well, even in the 21st century the Operation Systems (especially Windows) can do nasty things, like accidentaly deleting some system files, so your PC won't ever boot again without reinstall, or crashing during defragment - which causes the data being transported to be lost...

Anyways, you're welcome, I'm always there to pinpoint where something can fail

I don't think crashes during Defragmentation can make you lose files, I mean I'm shut my computer off midstream during a defrag lots of times, without shutting down all programs.

 

[Razosh]

I'd gues you have to say that to the computer.

 

[solomon409]

When i first looked at this i thought: "NU UH, This aint WC3""Pics or it didn't happen"

Bloody brilliant my good sire.

 

[Mammoth]

This is pretty Awesome i cant really wait for this project

 

[llll]

Shadows?
Water reflections?

This would be better if it was not a ThirdPerson/FirstPerson game so that it would look like SC2. But anyways your project is just masterpiece. I guess my ATI Radeon HD 5870 can handle it pretty well.

 

[Magtheridon96]

Shadows?
Water reflections?

Warcraft III handles those very badly.
It's impossible with Jass unless you map out each model and input booleans in a very large 2D Array (Hashtable in wc3), then create the shadows by looping through the hashtable and creating tiny images.
This is very inefficient though. But, it could be optimized greatly if you would scale images to display large rect-like shadows. (Meaning instead of 4 or 196 shadows forming a square, you would use one scaled one.
This is still very advanced and beyond what /anyone/ has done for Warcraft.

edit
Silly me, here's a better solution: http://www.hiveworkshop.com/forums/2129800-post617.html

 

[Vunjo]

@Magtheridon96, If anyone is going to do it, it will be the author of this map

 

[Adiktuz]

It is certainly doable but as Maggy said, it is very inefficient...

it might be good, but it would certainly make this run on very low fps on not so good computers... ^_^

 

[Luorax]

@Magtheridon96, If anyone is going to do it, it will be the author of this map

I highly doubt that, since as far as I know Gorsi isn't that good ad coding/programming. It'd be my pleause to be wrong and have such an advanced map, but I prefer staying realistic.

 

[Vunjo]

It is certainly doable but as Maggy said, it is very inefficient...

it might be good, but it would certainly make this run on very low fps on not so good computers... ^_^

Well I think it's worth it.

 

[Adiktuz]

I don't know... Eye Candy vs Playability is not a really good trade-off... as far as I'm concerned the eye-candy of this map is more than enough to outrun any existing maps...

 

[Systemfre1]

O:
This is awesome!
Any release date yet?

 

[Magtheridon96]

Oh wait! I have an even better idea
Take each model and put it in an empty warcraft III map.
Save the map and calculate shadows.
When the time of day is 8 AM, change your camera view so that you're looking at the map from overhead.

Take a screenshot of the shadow of the unit, put that an image editor, crop out the unneeded parts (change the unneeded parts to be transparent), and there you have it, a shadow image for a model
Feel free to use Gaussian Blur and Unsharp Mask to increase the quality
You can even change the shape a bit so it looks smooth

Then, in-game, when you trigger a unit index event, create the image using X/Y coordinates of the unit (the x/y coordinates you pass in determine the bottom-left corner of the image), and move that image 32x a second to the coordinates of the unit

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Or, instead of writing a system for that, you could simply use that image as the shadow of the unit in the Object Editor o_o

 

[GunSlinger]

This... This is just purely awesome!

If this keeps up, you'll eventually create a full game matching that of today's games. And to add to that, you made it all on world editor.

Who are the dev team anyways?

 

[Magtheridon96]

It's just her

 

[GunSlinger]

Models, terrain, triggers, etc?

She did all that?

 

[Magtheridon96]

Yes.

 

[GunSlinger]

jhsuqwjhxdodkd!

Then she is the god of modding!

It must have taken years to make those models, triggers, terrain and stuff.

 

[Magtheridon96]

Actually, a year and a few months

 

[GunSlinger]

This just keeps blowing my mind away.

=O

 

[Kithraya]

Oh wait! I have an even better idea
Take each model and put it in an empty warcraft III map.
Save the map and calculate shadows.
When the time of day is 8 AM, change your camera view so that you're looking at the map from overhead.

Take a screenshot of the shadow of the unit, put that an image editor, crop out the unneeded parts (change the unneeded parts to be transparent), and there you have it, a shadow image for a model
Feel free to use Gaussian Blur and Unsharp Mask to increase the quality
You can even change the shape a bit so it looks smooth

Then, in-game, when you trigger a unit index event, create the image using X/Y coordinates of the unit (the x/y coordinates you pass in determine the bottom-left corner of the image), and move that image 32x a second to the coordinates of the unit

Perfectly matched shadows are all in all static objects (rocks, tables, corpses, crates, barrels etc).
I could follow your way to do this for animated models, but I don't see any sense with this lighting and dark... "backgrouds" which are accompanied by the entire game. And in fact, this would be a little primitive.

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Or, instead of writing a system for that, you could simply use that image as the shadow of the unit in the Object Editor o_o

Yes, I am using this universal shadow texture (little remaked shadow of flying units) to all animated models of characters/monsters and other.

Models, terrain, triggers, etc?

She did all that?

Better to learn how to make all stuff than complain, that you can't rely on development team member.

Btw: Currently I'm waiting over a week for a message from model animator. I have done all skills. I need a finished animations to tigger the hits.

Then she is the god of modding!

Lol. xD Sounds funny, but I appreciate it. xD

 

[Magtheridon96]

You know, that Crafting Manager's shown me that the 100-texttag limit isn't all bad

 

[Kithraya]

Remember: limit = your foe.
Always try to find a way to defeat him. ;D

 

[Magtheridon96]

And you accomplished that by merging most of them
(Ex: The name of the item is merged into 1 texttag with the amount)

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In fact, you could merge all the items listed into 1 texttag :O

 

[Kithraya]

Ye, and I am using variable as the spacebar symbol so numbers don't pour to text. xD

 

[Levdragon]

Holy oh my god, what the, oh dear where, who the, how did!!!!!!!! This is amazing :O This doesn't even look like wc3 how did you, oh my I think I will feint now, good luck and I hope you succeed because this is one of the most amazing things I have ever seen, you put blizzard to shame.

 

[median]

i cant find any words for this.. its just pure awesomeness

 

[I)eath2u4me]

Lol that's what you call dedication . Can't wait till this map comes out .

 

[Kanadaj]

Goris, what do you think, will you finish this before Diablo 3 comes out?

 

[Magtheridon96]

She doesn't know when she'll finish bro

If I were to ask you about the completion time of some big project you're working on, would you give me an exact date and expect to be right about it?

@Goris:
How much RAM is the map taking while you're running it?
Image-file data in Warcraft III never gets deleted until you close Warcraft III apparently :|
And Blizzard didn't even provide us with a good UnloadFile native D:
That's one of the things that stopped me from writing a Video-Player :/

 

[Razosh]

And do you honestly expect this to be completed in 32 days? I'm not saying that Goris is lazy or a slow worker but this will take some time to finnish and if it takes time it takes time.

 

[Kanadaj]

Seems you don't read enough 9gag, else you would understand the joke ^^ But it really gives me the feeling of forever+1day

 

[Shapy]

awesome work nothing more to say. looking forward to see the final result!

 

[Kithraya]

@Goris:
How much RAM is the map taking while you're running it?
Image-file data in Warcraft III never gets deleted until you close Warcraft III apparently :|
And Blizzard didn't even provide us with a good UnloadFile native D:
That's one of the things that stopped me from writing a Video-Player :/

Already most people asked me on pm about graphics card, RAM, processor, etc. Dzisas. :|
This is normal map for Wc3, not a new game. -_-

Maybe everything looks very high-quality but this is just the textures (Most simply 512x512) give this effect. The models are low poly.
Its requirements are the same like for the other maps and works normally as any other map.

PS: I have a wooden computer. xD

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When finished? When people instead of only offering help, will really help.
I send them materials (sounds samples, models to animate etc.) and suddenly they utterly breaks contact. Yay, thanks!
It is like McDonald's. I'm lovin' it. -_-

Requiem have absolutely lack of cut-scenes and movies. And without proper animations I'm not going to do any cinematics. If you are going to do something, do it good. Zzzzz....

 

[RiotZ]

Already most people asked me on pm about graphics card, RAM, processor, etc. Dzisas. :|
This is normal map for Wc3, not a new game. -_-

Maybe everything looks very high-quality but this is just the textures (Most simply 512x512) give this effect. The models are low poly.
Its requirements are the same like for the other maps and works normally as any other map.

PS: I have a wooden computer. xD

=========================================================================================

When finished? When people instead of only offering help, will really help.
I send them materials (sounds samples, models to animate etc.) and suddenly they utterly breaks contact. Yay, thanks!
It is like McDonald's. I'm lovin' it. -_-

Requiem have absolutely lack of cut-scenes and movies. And without proper animations I'm not going to do any cinematics. If you are going to do something, do it good. Zzzzz....

I wish I could animate for you.

Don't send anyone anything unless they are a member of the team, or you trust them. I bet PKW would help you, he animated some of my stuff.

 

[Grievous1]

Yep like xRiotZx already said. You should ask pkw. He animated almost every single model for my own project. I swear you can trust this person he is the most helpful person in the wc3 modding scene I have ever seen. but it seems he is currently really busy but asking will not hurt. Currently I'm learning how to animate but my current skills are still to low for character animations so sadly I'm not able to help you out.

 

[yahadelemos]

WOW! i'll wait for this one

 

[Razosh]

WOW! i'll wait for this one

That's a smart descission I've been following this project since it was announced and I tell you it dosen't get boring to wait because every picture Goris puts up is of pure epicness.

 

[Foronisus]

That's a smart descission I've been following this project since it was announced and I tell you it dosen't get boring to wait because every picture Goris puts up is of pure epicness.

Agree

 

[median]

Big silence here...

 

[Razosh]

Well what would you want us to talk about? I think we're all just waiting for the new update, or had you something you wanted us to talk about since I already feel that we have already spoken about this projects epicness a few times or do you maybe want us to talk about how we all wished we had girlfriends that played video games?

 

[HeroSlayer]

Already most people asked me on pm about graphics card, RAM, processor, etc. Dzisas. :|
This is normal map for Wc3, not a new game. -_-

Maybe everything looks very high-quality but this is just the textures (Most simply 512x512) give this effect. The models are low poly.
Its requirements are the same like for the other maps and works normally as any other map.

PS: I have a wooden computer. xD

=========================================================================================

When finished? When people instead of only offering help, will really help.
I send them materials (sounds samples, models to animate etc.) and suddenly they utterly breaks contact. Yay, thanks!
It is like McDonald's. I'm lovin' it. -_-

Requiem have absolutely lack of cut-scenes and movies. And without proper animations I'm not going to do any cinematics. If you are going to do something, do it good. Zzzzz....

lol that has to be for me

sorry goris, I've been busy with some shit XD
anyways, i think i may get my pc back tomorrow, then i will start animating u_U

 

[Razosh]

It should be fun to see if you'll be the first one who'll acctully keep your word...

 

[HeroSlayer]

why fun?