Racebuilding Contest #4

[trolman]

Well I really liked the idea and wanted to join but when I saw the "no custom lore" part of the rules,my intrest died.How about...advanced lore?Since none of the warcraft fractions would fit my idea :/

 

[Wazzz]

First of all, it depends on what your idea is. Second of all, the lore limitation, I believe, is purely because were meant to use the melee races or the naga race. BUt Pharaoh_ will be able to fill you in more.

 

[trolman]

First of all, it depends on what your idea is. Second of all, the lore limitation, I believe, is purely because were meant to use the melee races or the naga race. BUt Pharaoh_ will be able to fill you in more.

Well I dont mean something totaly alien as lore...I mean of a nation founded from Lordaeron survivors,having their own kingdom on a small peninsula not marked on the map >> ,thats not official blizz lore but it does make sence

 

[Wazzz]

I think you're focusing a little too much on the lore itself rather than the race. As long as it's humans, I don't think it matters. At all. Just make sure it makes sense.

 

[trolman]

Yea I know but if the lore part doesent work I cant make the race,also changing it wont help because then I'll lose my ideas.

 

[Lich Prince]

Something like Theramore?

The lore doesn't really matter, just don't make the race look "weird".

 

[VeljkoM]

He wants to make Human race based of fan lore. But since it is based of humans and of warcraft lore does it really mater? And besides this contest wouldn't mind more support.

 

[Adiktuz]

Well I dont mean something totaly alien as lore...I mean of a nation founded from Lordaeron survivors,having their own kingdom on a small peninsula not marked on the map >> ,thats not official blizz lore but it does make sence

I guess that's okay since you're just advancing the human race's lore...

 

[trolman]

Well im looking forward to it and like I sayed its nothing too alien

 

[Wazzz]

So much emphasis on discussing the lore.... when it's already been said that it only means that the race should be based off of the key aspect of the melee race and should make sense (and look good). I mean, I'm considering doing Humans with a Bandit-theme, tell me, what kind of actual lore am I following? Hell, even if there is lore that could suit it, I'm not thinking about it, as it's a racebuilding contest based off of the melee races, not a lore writing contest.

Anyway, the less we focus on the lore and more on the gameplay, theme and the fact that we are limited to Humans, Orcs, Undead, Night Elves and Naga, the better.

Gl hf

 

[trolman]

exactly Wazz

so when does this thing start anyways?

 

[Wazzz]

Dunno, depends on when we get enough interest and when a mod puts it up, I think

 

[Pharaoh_]

trolman, Wazzz is right; you are focusing too much on the lore. You are not supposed to write down the lore of the race, this is not a (Short) story contest. Your idea won't cause any disqualification of entry, it just mustn't have new stuff. Example:
If I see some tooltip that says "Calls the power of the light god, Enerion, to cleanse the souls of nearby units", this is off the lore, because Enerion doesn't exist in the default Warcraft III lore.

That line would be ok in a contest where a new race was supposed to be created. This is race-editing, with gameplay orientation and innovative strategy, like Wazzz already pointed out.

 

[VeljkoM]

How did last contest started? I remember that I joined when it started. How many persons check contests submissions? If Wrathling didn't tell me I would never notice it.

 

[trolman]

trolman, Wazzz is right; you are focusing too much on the lore. You are not supposed to write down the lore of the race, this is not a (Short) story contest. Your idea won't cause any disqualification of entry, it just mustn't have new stuff. Example:
If I see some tooltip that says "Calls the power of the light god, Enerion, to cleanse the souls of nearby units", this is off the lore, because Enerion doesn't exist in the default Warcraft III lore.

That line would be ok in a contest where a new race was supposed to be created. This is race-editing, with gameplay orientation and innovative strategy, like Wazzz already pointed out.

ah good I see

 

[Wazzz]

Enerion, eh? Might put a good spin on the Bandit race....

loljks
But yea, as Veljikom says, how long does it usually take and how often is this checked? Although I wouldn't quite like the contest to start just yet (what with exams coming up and all), I would like an indication of when it might begin.

 

[Lich Prince]

Well I think lore can be more beneficial than harmful to us here.

For example, Wazzz is making a bandit race right? He could maybe add some Ogre units to the race. Why? Because a group of Bandits called Syndicate (in WoW) are allied with some Ogres and currently have control over Stromgard. He could alternatively add some minor Goblin units (Defias Brotherhood). Also, Lore can greatly help us with the Hero creation.

 

[Wazzz]

Humans with a Bandit theme*

The main reason for combining two races together, though, is so they fit the theme. Putting Ogres with the Bandits works on many levels, but it is purely dependent on the theme of the race itself.

Incidentally, what I'm now wondering is how much stuff we have to put into each race. I'm guessing enough to make it compatible for playing against the melee races?