Indeed. That's why they are both similar. They're both based on C. I wasn't sure if it was java or c++ that was newer so that's why I didn't say. Point is, they ARE similar. Syntactically, and in capability. Java runs a bit slower though. Java is like C# but not microsoft owned. runs on all platforms after installing java VM, and C# does it after installing .net. so, back on topic. If you need some help coding I can help in the summer. And I still want to know if nexus was serious with his last insulting post.