Programming Classes

[mckill2009]

There are already a jass and terrain class atm, but not very active...is it possible to have programing classes?, but only basics...language like C++, java, python etc...
I know that there are tutorials outside this site and in YT but I really prefer here, maybe this is a new start for THW as teaching people how to implement those languages?...

 

[Daffa]

Lol wut? First, we have JASS Class, a few month ago we also has Terrain Class, and now Programming Class? What's next?

Are we making a school here?

Okay, seriously, I do know many people here like coding, but, is learning Java and such is a bit out from Modding? [besides making 3rd party mod, that is]

P.S : Mag gonna like this.

 

[mckill2009]

I suggested this so that THW will get more active, maybe many interested users want to know those programs...

 

[Magtheridon96]

No, Mag is not gonna like this.

If you want to learn a programming language properly, get a book.

If we're going to teach a language, the only one I can imagine having a class for here is Lua.

C-family languages are not the ones you should be learning about from online tutorials.

 

[mckill2009]

No, Mag is not gonna like this.

>>>

Go away.

Mags, hehe.......joke...

 

[Adiktuz]

This is a wc3 (and SCII) modding site, not a programming site... so let's keep it like that...

 

[sonofjay]

Get a book.

This.

 

[Binsu]

Lol, the classes are not getting too much attention so if another class will be established it will be not attended too.

 

[Rui]

I'd be happy with Lua classes if that's what you're willing to teach, Mag =)

Guess I'm one of the few to find this a good idea =P

 

[mckill2009]

Even contests here doesn't have too much attention these days, this is is not possible this thread should be closed now...

 

[Magtheridon96]

I have to finish JASS Class and finish all my programming books before I can teach anyone anything~

 

[GhostWolf]

If you want to learn a programming language properly, get a book.

Bullshit.

I'd be happy with Lua classes if that's what you're willing to teach

Lua.

 

[Magtheridon96]

Bullshit.

You will not find a decent tutorial online for the C-family languages
(Maybe for Java, but I'm not sure)

(I should have been more specific)

 

[Ralle]

Guys, if any of you are willing to create a programming class, go ahead. I will not permit Mag to do it because he is still (technically) teaching the JASS class.

 

[Mechanical Man]

Bullshit.

He probably meant, that learning programming language is actual practice, not just from books.

 

[neo_sluf]

Actually most hivers are busy with their projects and maps.. and besides jass class is the only class that will help hivers since it is the language used in modding not
C+Lua..

 

[mckill2009]

Seriously, I learned the very basic of C++ tutorials only in Youtube, but I still prefer someone to teach here...

 

[Dr Super Good]

People are aware that it takes 3-4 years to teach Computer Science? I do not think anyone in their right minds would do it for free as there is just so much to learn about it

 

[Almia]

Me reject this.

 

[Vladadamm]

This is a wc3 (and SCII) modding site, not a programming site... so let's keep it like that...

Isn't JASS programming/coding?

Lol, the classes are not getting too much attention so if another class will be established it will be not attended too.

Maybe, but we have to make the website more active first.

Even contests here doesn't have too much attention these days, this is is not possible this thread should be closed now...

Warcraft 3 contests doesn't have that much attention. But we aren't limited to warcraft 3 aren't we ? Starcraft 2 contests would make the starcraft 2 part more active i guess.

Let's go back to the topic. Imo, why not ? But it's not possible yet, as we don't even have a Programmation subforum (which could be useful), the one being the closest to this being Game Development.
So, imo we should create a Programmation subforum in the Development category. Then if that subforum is active, we could maybe have a class there.

 

[DivineLight]

Isn't JASS programming/coding?

yes but it is in WC3

Maybe, but we have to make the website more active first.

i agree

Let's go back to the topic. Imo, why not ? But it's not possible yet, as we don't even have a Programmation subforum (which could be useful), the one being the closest to this being Game Development.
So, imo we should create a Programmation subforum in the Development category. Then if that subforum is active, we could maybe have a class there.

well, who is going be the teacher then?

Guys, if any of you are willing to create a programming class, go ahead. I will not permit Mag to do it because he is still (technically) teaching the JASS class.

he is still teaching the JASS class, if someone willing to create a programming class.. Ralle has given permission.. it's up to someone who willing to create a programming class

 

[mckill2009]

I'm doing what needs to be done to put this website on high ground always, suggesting terrain classes/programming classes/making systems/spells and even telling Ralle that the contests takes too damn long to have results...

 

[DivineLight]

^good then

 

[GhostWolf]

What can anyone here teach better than simple google searches?

 

[Almia]

What can anyone here teach better than simple google searches?

Thanks Master!

Yep, I learned so many from GhostWolf by using this annoying site for my answers: lmgtfy.com

 

[mckill2009]

What can anyone here teach better than simple google searches?

>>> but I really prefer here

other than that, if this topic is really out of place, then it should be closed...

 

[eubz]

For java, you can just go here.
For c++ you can click this to direct you to the tutorials.

 

[Magtheridon96]

Don't learn C++ from a source that teaches you about pointers first...

 

[BlinkBoy]

If I would teach programming, I would teach real world Haskell programming.

 

[Arhowk]

if i would teach programming, i would teach real world haskell programming.

assembler!

 

[MasterTrainer]

Programming Class? If it was about LUA or C++/JAVA I guess I could go with it.

 

[Almia]

I really suggest that you search for some "pirated" .pdf books relating to those languages.
I have two(C++ and Lua) though I can't share to you guys, it is because of ICL.

Try Pirate Bay.

 

[MasterTrainer]

Yeah sure I have tried downloading ebooks on Programming, but sometimes it's just a little better to experience the teaching from someone that has read through them already and will only teach the summarized things... but I guess I could wait more.

Almia, can you give me the names of the two .pdf books you have?

 

[Almia]

sorry, no.
It is illegal.

 

[Arhowk]

sorry, no.
It is illegal.

no...

lmia, can you give me the names of the two .pdf books you have?

 

[Almia]

It is because it is the exact names of the products

Google is scary.

 

[MasterTrainer]

How 'bout you give me the names and when Google comes around I'll say I found them by chance.

 

[mckill2009]

I learned a lot from YT, since nobody wants to make a basic tutorial here...I can even make a simple password saving system in C++ now XD...

 

[Rui]

Haskell sounds good, but I'll be learning that at uni next semester =P

 

[BlinkBoy]

Haskell sounds good, but I'll be learning that at uni next semester =P

I suggest you use this children's book to help you out: Learn you a haskell for great good

 

[busterkomo]

People are aware that it takes 3-4 years to teach Computer Science? I do not think anyone in their right minds would do it for free as there is just so much to learn about it

Programming and computer science are not synonymous.

 

[Rui]

Sometimes it seems like they are, that's why I'm so sad with my uni courses. =<

Thanks BlinkBoy!

 

[Dr Super Good]

Programming and computer science are not synonymous.

To some extent. Although not all computer science is programming, most programming is computer science.

Effective programming is a summation of everything from management processes to understanding how computer hardware works.

 

[MasterTrainer]

Is anyone interested in making one? (A class)

 

[mckill2009]

Is anyone interested in making one? (A class)

Sorry kid, ever since I opened this thread, none is interested, so better move on ...

 

[Xonok]

In the case of c++ a very good site exists. www.learncpp.com

 

[Magtheridon96]

I wouldn't use LearnCPP if I were you. It makes no mention of smart pointers, even in the C++11 introduction at the end. Consequently, it encourages allowing raw pointers to own memory, which makes C++ code much more prone to human error and it makes the programmer responsible for abiding by things such as the Rule of 3 and the Rule of 5. I follow Rule of 0. If you can't or don't, you're likely doing something wrong.

However, a lot of the other stuff is mostly sound on LearnCPP. You can use CPPReference for brief information and documentation on a lot of C++ functions and classes. It's the best and most accurate reference for C++ around, seriously.

 

[Dr Super Good]

There is nothing wrong with using standard C pointers as long as you know what you are doing.

 

[Xonok]

I wouldn't use LearnCPP if I were you. It makes no mention of smart pointers, even in the C++11 introduction at the end. Consequently, it encourages allowing raw pointers to own memory, which makes C++ code much more prone to human error and it makes the programmer responsible for abiding by things such as the Rule of 3 and the Rule of 5. I follow Rule of 0. If you can't or don't, you're likely doing something wrong.

However, a lot of the other stuff is mostly sound on LearnCPP. You can use CPPReference for brief information and documentation on a lot of C++ functions and classes. It's the best and most accurate reference for C++ around, seriously.

I think I just saw something like smart pointers. Although it wasn't under that name.

 

[Magtheridon96]

There is nothing wrong with using standard C pointers as long as you know what you are doing.

Of course~
On large scale projects, that is, hundreds of source files and tens to hundreds of thousands or even millions of lines of code, you'd want to use smart pointers to manage memory though.
This way, you can cut down on user defined copy constructors and user defined move constructors and all that shit because a lot of your classes wouldn't need to have them anymore.