New Content Discussion [SPOILER]

[Mvicio]

Come on Shar! How could you kill Vanessa right away? Haven´t the redfist family suffer enough?
Herdon is pissed, and we dont know how this cool head general can do when he is angry, he is going to use the ironbarks to found out Bradley.
Also Garan was a nice general, it seems cooperative and wanted to unify arkain, with two big factions as allies, also maybe in the future when Amari and Gardon are dead they could unite, but i think both of them are inmmortal by now.

Also poor Grofzag... he lost everything, first his father, then his best friend Sas and now his wife, he can´t catch break can he? Maybe this is the reason he awakens his full powers with the earth magic? There wasn´t any more plot points towards that during the war.

Krom... you shouldn´t be with Aridon anymore, he has enough servants and the rest of them are off, I know Meya and Kazardius will fight him soon enough, same as pentiss and Quiraness, you should reconsider.

Zyianor has necromancers but the corpsers are burn so they cant do anything, however there is some Shadow master that could take the Shadow of Garan... Making him even more enemy of Gardon.

Was that Ferina commanding the Kerrel forces?

This was a hell of a prelude, there is no way any of the factions cooperate at all, nice work Largoth.
Also this was the first time that Alchemy was used right? Maybe is the reason behind the plague in Rengar.

The whole incident was either orchestrated by the Rohir Nexus or the Empire. Vanessa's death will most likely create unrest among the Salrians,

Maybe it was Inara´s doing? In order to increase her power by killing the Salrians loyal to Vanessa.

Maybe the faction from espionage is the culprit behind it.

Imagine if the shadows could be revived through the grail. That would be an interesting storyline for the Human or Orc paths. Or corrupt it in the undead paths.

That would be incredible, imagine Renova rising again against Larine and his Puppet regime.
Renova + Salana (and maybe Saphira) vs Larine Herdon Tormin and anyone that dares to fight the elves.

I wanna know what is Rahandir doing, building his forces? Being the Cool uncle of the elven children?

 

[Scamator_crowned]

Man, i really would have liked to play at least one mission as Garan, that being said, i doubt this it's Garan and Venessa end, for the simple fact, that Shar teased the hell out of the Holy Grail

 

[Shar Dundred]

Without commenting on the powers and uses of the grail in the future, I do not believe that the plot of
all paths should focus on bringing as many characters as possible from the dead, be they loved or loathed.
It would only invalidate the narrative meaning behind the death of a character if they all end up coming back.
I am not saying returns of some characters are never ever happening but focussing on it too much would be a
huge narrative mistake.

How could you kill Vanessa right away?

It wasn't right away. You had a mission to reconnect to her, remember the good times you had and smile thinking about it.
THEN she got killed!

Jokes aside, I understand the shock about the fate of certain characters in the last release - the way I see it,
it highlights how they have grown on people during their time and how successful they have been in their role.

 

[Scamator_crowned]

Without commenting on the powers and uses of the grail in the future, I do not believe that the plot of
all paths should focus on bringing as many characters as possible from the dead, be they loved or loathed.
It would only invalidate the narrative meaning behind the death of a character if they all end up coming back.


It wasn't right away. You had a mission to reconnect to her, remember the good times you had and smile thinking about it.
THEN she got killed!

I mean yeah u are right...but then u wouldn't introduce the ressurection ability of the grail if u didnt plan to bring somebody back, Renald it's of course the most likely to return, and all of Marin talk about using the grail, so in the end..we can just wait and see...also, still not cool kiling garan without giving us at least one zyanor prelude mission, other than that, cant wait to see what leagacy hold in store for us..other then ya know..endless war

 

[Mochi King]

Without commenting on the powers and uses of the grail in the future, I do not believe that the plot of
all paths should focus on bringing as many characters as possible from the dead, be they loved or loathed.
It would only invalidate the narrative meaning behind the death of a character if they all end up coming back.
I am not saying returns of some characters are never ever happening but focussing on it too much would be a
huge narrative mistake.


It wasn't right away. You had a mission to reconnect to her, remember the good times you had and smile thinking about it.
THEN she got killed!

Jokes aside, I understand the shock about the fate of certain characters in the last release - the way I see it,
it highlights how they have grown on people during their time and how successful they have been in their role.

While that is true, you did bring back a lot of characters from the dead. But this was through necromancy than anything else. So I'm half-expecting both Garan and Vanessa to be revived by their necromancy or shadow magic. As for the Holy Grail, it was always shown to bring back the dead to life. As much as it's a narrative mistake, I feel like it's still a key point to the choices we make. For example, if we steal that grail from the Golden Guard, we would be allowed to use its power with the faction we choose (i.e. reviving Garan as Zyainor, reviving Vanessa as Dominion). But if it is an overall narrative mistake, then I won't blame you and will continue to love the story as is . Then again, it really is a shame that you didn't give us a chance to play Garan since he was a key character for Zyainor. I mean, he's not even that old and lord Shar basically told us his role was already successful (please give us a chance to play him in an updated Struggles of Arkain map).

Just shows how we love these characters, lord Shar. If it's within the capabilities of the narrative, please allow us the choice to revive them and play them somehow.

On another note, when it comes to reviving the dead, I do have some interesting theories that would probably come to play. One theory I'm thinking is if we play the Cora faction, she could use the Zirr's knowledge to bring Vanessa to life as a Frost Mistress. Another I'm thinking is if we're playing against Zyainor, Gardon would resort to using necromancy to bring Garan back to life (he wouldn't if we play as Zyainor since we're in control of the war as the players). Aveen did this with her Ranger against the Dominion on the final orc mission. I'm also expecting a lot of canon events here (meaning even in the different paths, it would still happen regardless like let's say Brian returning, but depending on which faction we're playing, he would join that faction).

I'm already over Garan and Vanessa dying at this point. Now, I'm just formulating what we will do with the rest of these deaths once the war actually starts.

 

[Kalvon]

NO!!! Garan! Vanessa! You don't deserve to die! Not now! I will save you in my fanfic Chronicles of Arkain. With others characters.

So, question: The Dark One is behind this double assassination? Or in the dwarves' invasion? Will we have several endings? with choices, it will affect the ending. will Demons get more spotlight?