New Content Discussion [SPOILER]

[Mvicio]

Come on Shar! How could you kill Vanessa right away? Haven´t the redfist family suffer enough?
Herdon is pissed, and we dont know how this cool head general can do when he is angry, he is going to use the ironbarks to found out Bradley.
Also Garan was a nice general, it seems cooperative and wanted to unify arkain, with two big factions as allies, also maybe in the future when Amari and Gardon are dead they could unite, but i think both of them are inmmortal by now.

Also poor Grofzag... he lost everything, first his father, then his best friend Sas and now his wife, he can´t catch break can he? Maybe this is the reason he awakens his full powers with the earth magic? There wasn´t any more plot points towards that during the war.

Krom... you shouldn´t be with Aridon anymore, he has enough servants and the rest of them are off, I know Meya and Kazardius will fight him soon enough, same as pentiss and Quiraness, you should reconsider.

Zyianor has necromancers but the corpsers are burn so they cant do anything, however there is some Shadow master that could take the Shadow of Garan... Making him even more enemy of Gardon.

Was that Ferina commanding the Kerrel forces?

This was a hell of a prelude, there is no way any of the factions cooperate at all, nice work Largoth.
Also this was the first time that Alchemy was used right? Maybe is the reason behind the plague in Rengar.

The whole incident was either orchestrated by the Rohir Nexus or the Empire. Vanessa's death will most likely create unrest among the Salrians,

Maybe it was Inara´s doing? In order to increase her power by killing the Salrians loyal to Vanessa.

Maybe the faction from espionage is the culprit behind it.

Imagine if the shadows could be revived through the grail. That would be an interesting storyline for the Human or Orc paths. Or corrupt it in the undead paths.

That would be incredible, imagine Renova rising again against Larine and his Puppet regime.
Renova + Salana (and maybe Saphira) vs Larine Herdon Tormin and anyone that dares to fight the elves.

I wanna know what is Rahandir doing, building his forces? Being the Cool uncle of the elven children?

 

[Scamator_crowned]

Man, i really would have liked to play at least one mission as Garan, that being said, i doubt this it's Garan and Venessa end, for the simple fact, that Shar teased the hell out of the Holy Grail

 

[Shar Dundred]

Without commenting on the powers and uses of the grail in the future, I do not believe that the plot of
all paths should focus on bringing as many characters as possible from the dead, be they loved or loathed.
It would only invalidate the narrative meaning behind the death of a character if they all end up coming back.
I am not saying returns of some characters are never ever happening but focussing on it too much would be a
huge narrative mistake.

How could you kill Vanessa right away?

It wasn't right away. You had a mission to reconnect to her, remember the good times you had and smile thinking about it.
THEN she got killed!

Jokes aside, I understand the shock about the fate of certain characters in the last release - the way I see it,
it highlights how they have grown on people during their time and how successful they have been in their role.

 

[Scamator_crowned]

Without commenting on the powers and uses of the grail in the future, I do not believe that the plot of
all paths should focus on bringing as many characters as possible from the dead, be they loved or loathed.
It would only invalidate the narrative meaning behind the death of a character if they all end up coming back.


It wasn't right away. You had a mission to reconnect to her, remember the good times you had and smile thinking about it.
THEN she got killed!

I mean yeah u are right...but then u wouldn't introduce the ressurection ability of the grail if u didnt plan to bring somebody back, Renald it's of course the most likely to return, and all of Marin talk about using the grail, so in the end..we can just wait and see...also, still not cool kiling garan without giving us at least one zyanor prelude mission, other than that, cant wait to see what leagacy hold in store for us..other then ya know..endless war

 

[Mochi King]

Without commenting on the powers and uses of the grail in the future, I do not believe that the plot of
all paths should focus on bringing as many characters as possible from the dead, be they loved or loathed.
It would only invalidate the narrative meaning behind the death of a character if they all end up coming back.
I am not saying returns of some characters are never ever happening but focussing on it too much would be a
huge narrative mistake.


It wasn't right away. You had a mission to reconnect to her, remember the good times you had and smile thinking about it.
THEN she got killed!

Jokes aside, I understand the shock about the fate of certain characters in the last release - the way I see it,
it highlights how they have grown on people during their time and how successful they have been in their role.

While that is true, you did bring back a lot of characters from the dead. But this was through necromancy than anything else. So I'm half-expecting both Garan and Vanessa to be revived by their necromancy or shadow magic. As for the Holy Grail, it was always shown to bring back the dead to life. As much as it's a narrative mistake, I feel like it's still a key point to the choices we make. For example, if we steal that grail from the Golden Guard, we would be allowed to use its power with the faction we choose (i.e. reviving Garan as Zyainor, reviving Vanessa as Dominion). But if it is an overall narrative mistake, then I won't blame you and will continue to love the story as is . Then again, it really is a shame that you didn't give us a chance to play Garan since he was a key character for Zyainor. I mean, he's not even that old and lord Shar basically told us his role was already successful (please give us a chance to play him in an updated Struggles of Arkain map).

Just shows how we love these characters, lord Shar. If it's within the capabilities of the narrative, please allow us the choice to revive them and play them somehow.

On another note, when it comes to reviving the dead, I do have some interesting theories that would probably come to play. One theory I'm thinking is if we play the Cora faction, she could use the Zirr's knowledge to bring Vanessa to life as a Frost Mistress. Another I'm thinking is if we're playing against Zyainor, Gardon would resort to using necromancy to bring Garan back to life (he wouldn't if we play as Zyainor since we're in control of the war as the players). Aveen did this with her Ranger against the Dominion on the final orc mission. I'm also expecting a lot of canon events here (meaning even in the different paths, it would still happen regardless like let's say Brian returning, but depending on which faction we're playing, he would join that faction).

I'm already over Garan and Vanessa dying at this point. Now, I'm just formulating what we will do with the rest of these deaths once the war actually starts.

Edit: I actually forgot about Gorthog being reanimated by the moghtar warlock. So I'm hoping we either get that option or its a canon event regardless.

 

[Kalvon]

NO!!! Garan! Vanessa! You don't deserve to die! Not now! I will save you in my fanfic Chronicles of Arkain. With others characters.

So, question: The Dark One is behind this double assassination? Or in the dwarves' invasion? Will we have several endings? with choices, it will affect the ending. will Demons get more spotlight?

 

[ƬƖƦЄƊ]

Oh boy, I hope the Golden Guards stay safe.

 

[DD Mikasa]

I mean i am not bummed about her death, Vanessa hasn't been cool since the first orc book era, then she got swept under the rug, i am kinda bummed for Garan though, would have loved to see what he would have done as a more pragmatic Gardon (that is the vibe he gave to me from all the sources given on him) maybe he gets brought back as a undead ( i am full on dunked on the copium tank here).

As for who could have done it, I doubt Largoth or Brian would have played a part in what happened, as for Aridon on the other hand...

Largoth is in charge of the strongest nation on the world, killing off Garan while it would make sense to a degree if Gardon possed a legitimate threat to him, but in my opinion Zyainor is no where near as powerful as Rodan in terms of waging war capabilities,

I dont think Brian would really want to harm Gardon by striking down one of his kids, from all the three brothers he seems the most benevolent and he to a degree does genuinely care about Gardon.

On the other hand Aridon has always done this type of shenanigans and he would greatly benefit from a conflict between Zyainor and Tribal Dominion and he has Mordin hammerfall to be the trusted emmisary that tiped the dwarfs off about the dominion invasion but the time from when he came back from his self impossed exile and the time where the assasination happened feels like to soon, I dont think he has enough manpower to make a move once Zyainor and Tribal Dominion have been fully engaged in war.

 

[LISBOAH]

Largoth is in charge of the strongest nation on the world, killing off Garan while it would make sense to a degree if Gardon possed a legitimate threat to him, but in my opinion Zyainor is no where near as powerful as Rodan in terms of waging war capabilities,

Tregakh is smart. He would have a much easier time conquering Arkain if every faction in it were busy fighting each other.

On the other hand Aridon has always done this type of shenanigans and he would greatly benefit from a conflict between Zyainor and Tribal Dominion and he has Mordin hammerfall to be the trusted emmisary that tiped the dwarfs off about the dominion invasion but the time from when he came back from his self impossed exile and the time where the assasination happened feels like to soon, I dont think he has enough manpower to make a move once Zyainor and Tribal Dominion have been fully engaged in war.

The problem lies in how did he manage to do this. This scheme fits on how the Rohir Nexus opperates, but said Nexus is, at least for now, no longer under his control.

 

[DD Mikasa]

Tregakh is smart. He would have a much easier time conquering Arkain if every faction in it were busy fighting each other.

I am not doubting his ability to play all sides, after all he shafted all three major factions back on the true story, however from a narrative point of view whats there to gain if we go through another plotline when Largoth is the one doing the shafting again, the short stories (at least how i understand it ) are following a more localised story telling. The books were all about this major conflict pitting against each other massive powers ( that was reflected even on the gameplay) while the short stories seem to take a smaller scale both in story telling and the gameplay aspect.

The problem lies in how did he manage to do this. This scheme fits on how the Rohir Nexus opperates, but said Nexus is, at least for now, no longer under his control.

I do agree with this as i stated also the time from Aridon came back to where he could have hatched this plot doesnt fit at all.

This leaves me thinking it could be one of the two factions Demons or The sisters.
I am leaning more towards the sisters purely from the fact that this is smth new, we already been through Largoth's tricks and Demons invasion, it doesn't make for a compeling story to reuse them again, but thats a personal opinion.

From all we know it could have been Marongoin war is where mercenaries are needed after all.

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[Enki555]

O' boy... the prelude... was surreal and cathartic.

I still can't believe Vanessa gone like this... even Garan too. Yet I feel it's not their end. Brian is definitely interested in waxing his flock. Or maybe (just maybe) undead Vanessa can become a thing once again. Since Aridon's undead is at its weakest in history ever since the destruction of Zindrach... he will probably raise majority of fallen Dominion characters to fill his already severely depleted ranks. With other nexus resisting and betraying him... it would only make sense for him to create loyal new nexus to spearhead final war. Maybe it is time to create Dominion nexus. Since Aridon was present watching Rangul and Ephrog nuked... it makes sense he got possession of their bodies for possible use. Maybe it is time. Perhaps we can see family reunion if that path is taken.

Depending on the path, however, we may revive either Vanessa, Garan or Renald through grial or make either of them undead or either of them shadow servant. It would be interesting to see Renald actually got raised as shadow after grial has been used to revive Garan while Vanessa becomes undead, or vice versa thrice. Aridon raising Garan would induce such a rage that Zyainor might as well deploy all of their forces to nuke Dead Mountain while backed up by Rohir and Zirr. It would be interesting to see Vail's reaction too. Perhaps, her unhealthy focus on daughters of King would shift to Kerrel and Rengar. Either way, both kingdoms are screwed. Though there is one peaceful way left: Gardon can pretty much marry Ferina as originally planned to annex Kerrel.

It would be poetic to see that unlucky archer maybe shooting down the culprit, as the arrow finds its mark truly this time... after all the destruction he wrought.

As for who the culprit is... Aridon is top candidate as he probably needed excuse to kill high caliber leaders for opportunity. Or it could be empress of Espionage empire; though I have doubts. As for the identity of the empire, what if they are offshoot of Arkainians? I imagine them to be extremely xenophobic and wishing to topple all the forces in Arkain. Their top name on the blacklist, however, would be sack of bones himself if they are aware of his genocide on Arkainians. I doubt it was Sisters though as they need every force they can muster against Four.

O' boy let's see what the future has in its horizon.

 

[ddd deathknight]

Did the Forgotten come to the Lor Forest for the Monoliths? Does the demon know about the Monoliths?Who awakened the ancient power of the Lor Forest?

 

[Mvicio]

Tregakh is smart. He would have a much easier time conquering Arkain if every faction in it were busy fighting each other.

And he knows that both Bryan and Aridon are there with their ever-growing armies. They need them weaker because if they unite (something that could happened because this conversation between Garan and Vanessa, they would stomp him) the war is over.
Also we don´t know anything about Demons true intentions yet.

The problem lies in how did he manage to do this. This scheme fits on how the Rohir Nexus opperates, but said Nexus is, at least for now, no longer under his control.

Mordin is Rahandir´s undead, not Aridon, he has free will and could do it on his own.
Or even following Rahandirs orders.

This leaves me thinking it could be one of the two factions Demons or The sisters.

There is also the faction from espionage that was quantifying the others faction military powers. Maybe they need the dominion weakened (or even gone) before entering the stage.

With other nexus resisting and betraying him... it would only make sense for him to create loyal new nexus to spearhead final war. Maybe it is time to create Dominion nexus. Since Aridon was present watching Rangul and Ephrog nuked... it makes sense he got possession of their bodies for possible use. Maybe it is time. Perhaps we can see family reunion if that path is taken.

Oh, i really like that one. Since during the war the Kezzar nexus was born, maybe more can be created now.
Imagine redfist undead soldiers fighting alongside orcs, because as we know the Redfist (not even the faction) can catch a break.

Also isn´t Zelech out there? Maybe that magic fire arrow was from him in order to prevent the orcs from gaining more allies and power. It could be Kenos too.

 

[Shar Dundred]

It just occured to me that I forgot to attach the changelog to the latest newspost - it mostly
affects the secret boss fight.
I have added it to the newspost now and am adding it here as well:

Changelog

Prelude Four:

• Removed two out of three Amulets of Spell Shield from the secret fight
• Removed Bladestorm from the secret fight
• No more Crown of Kings drop from the secret fight

 

[UnluckyFootman]

Hmm...Hmmmm, Alchemists and Flamestrike. "Following the end of the war, he developed a great dislike for Bloodclaw and his nation of Zyainor." Harmos?

And once again Sabaton rocks! You can tell by the choice of "Sarajevo" the creator is a true fan of the band. Well greetings from the Sarajevo Shar! Hope you come to visit us some day (I promise nobody is gonna shoot you)

 

[ILIDAN STORMRAGE]

It just occured to me that I forgot to attach the changelog to the latest newspost - it mostly
affects the secret boss fight.
I have added it to the newspost now and am adding it here as well:

Changelog

Prelude Four:

• Removed two out of three Amulets of Spell Shield from the secret fight
• Removed Bladestorm from the secret fight
• No more Crown of Kings drop from the secret fight

But if we fought it before the change we get to keep the crown corect? We faced the monsters in their final forms I suppose we should get the reward... your choice of course but karskin should always drop a crown its funnier and more rewarding this way plus it will add the ilogical and comical situation of where the crowns come from ...maybe a secret ending when veln gets 6 crowns of kings from karskin and starts a secret 1v1 with Karskin and when he wins it turns out that he was shar all along and a secret map when we get to play with your character againts all the scraped ideeas from the books that didnt make it to the canon version. It would be fun as the ultimate easteregg .....I might have gone a little insane there though ))

 

[Shar Dundred]

But if we fought it before the change we get to keep the crown corect?

Yes.
It was only there because some people had not gotten the crown in Ch1 due to a bug in the initial release.
Your only reward for this fight is the cage content, whether you like it or not.

 

[DD Mikasa]

There is also the faction from espionage that was quantifying the others faction military powers. Maybe they need the dominion weakened (or even gone) before entering the stage.

Could be them, but i like super sure its the sisters, they are the only ones who havent gotten their spotlight besides that intro cinematic, they urged the undead to go away from Aridon, they still got Kernos who still might be welcomed into the Dwarf realms (after all he is an imperial and dwarfs held imperials in high regard) they might have an alliance with the Ejara nexus who has been waging war against the dwarfs since god knows when, it kinda all makes sense, create a Crisis in Zyainor, Weaken the dwarfs by making them going against Dominion, get rid of Vanessa since she is the one keeping the humans in check on the Dominion and you got mayhem all over the realms, with mayhem all over the realms Aridon Brian and maybe Largoth might have to get invovled and then they can make their powerplay of getting rid of the brothers.

 

[Rhapsodie]

Could be them, but i like super sure its the sisters, they are the only ones who havent gotten their spotlight besides that intro cinematic, they urged the undead to go away from Aridon, they still got Kernos who still might be welcomed into the Dwarf realms (after all he is an imperial and dwarfs held imperials in high regard) they might have an alliance with the Ejara nexus who has been waging war against the dwarfs since god knows when, it kinda all makes sense, create a Crisis in Zyainor, Weaken the dwarfs by making them going against Dominion, get rid of Vanessa since she is the one keeping the humans in check on the Dominion and you got mayhem all over the realms, with mayhem all over the realms Aridon Brian and maybe Largoth might have to get invovled and then they can make their powerplay of getting rid of the brothers.

I also believe the Circle is the one responsible for the same reassons you mentioned . The only thing is , I don t think they aim to weaken the dwarfs , they simply wanted to weaken the Dominion and the dwarfs were among the only option to do so .It s also very possible the circle is allied with Rahandir ( Cora worked with the undead all this time so is very possible Rahandir might be part of it ) and that would give us Mordin who would for sure convince Zarin to such action .

 

[ILIDAN STORMRAGE]

Yes.
It was only there because some people had not gotten the crown in Ch1 due to a bug in the initial release.
Your only reward for this fight is the cage content, whether you like it or not.

I bought reforged yesterday so I had the start the campaign over as I was unable to carry the progress over. still 2 crowns were present(1 inchapter one and another in the secret fight). So either it is still bugged or the changelog you presented is supposed to discourage the non night elf fans that even if they dont like the content of the cage would do the secret misions for that kind of phat lewt. Either way I Considered it necesarry to inform you in case you really want that second crown gone. When I downloaded the map after buying reforged I took the most recent version of the map so the change was already loged and should have been implemented by then.

 

[ƬƖƦЄƊ]

What about zoia ?
From her lore sheet:

'"longing for an enemy to invade - such as the remaining Kingdoms in the west or the Tribal Dominion in the south. While she still considers the Demons a threat, she does not believe that an invasion of their lands would have any chance of success after what had happened last time. ""

Inara
""she has only hinted that she can make others do what she wants one way or another. ""

-Maybe the captain was a sleep agents ? Then suicide.

-Bribe the captain ? Then got assassinated.

everything will be revealed by hortnog i guess since he will do everything to avenge vanessa.

 

[DD Mikasa]

What about zoia ?

But why would she murder the heir apperent of the kingdom she belongs too, I am pretty sure Gardon would help her invade the Dominion if she told him she has a sleeper agent which owns almost half of the Dominions land and is the second in command to the ruler of the Dominion, I dont think she would need to murder her future king in order to convince the current king to assisst her in invading the Dominion especially considering that Brian is residing within the dominion and Gardon and Brian aren't on the best of terms.

The only reason for her to hatch such a scheme is if she is planning to be her own independant and not be a vassal of Gardon in that case i can see her being behind the whole debacle BUT does she have enough manpower both warriors and spies to have hached such schemes the Wolf regimet got all but vanquished on the Salrian front. 20 years is a long time and she might have recouped the losses but we end up on the other qustion is she able to produce more human/wolf hybrids so far away from the Empire.

 

[Apprentice Darkmoon]

I'll always want to know more about the Dominion. Who are the representatives of each race? Did they have a secondary leader in case anything happens? (For example if the Salrians have a successor of Vanessa, or who are the new leaders of the ogres and bearmen)
Also, I'll want to learn more of the GG. I prefer them over Zyainor.

 

[Navy45]

Personnally, I want to see more of the splintered undead. The nexus I most want to see more of is the Ejara Nexus, because all the others will probably remain set in their ways (like, Meya will still try to get power and... "fun", the Zirr will still guard knowledge and so on...) but the Ejara feel like they could actually change in their ways. Especially with a leader that comes from one of their "slave races". They don't seem "passionate" about enslaving like the Zirr is about knowledge or the Scarec is about murder, but they also don't feel as power hungry as the Rohir, so... without Aridon's control, their practices seem purposeless.
Honestly, I would really like to see Haran come back as a ruler that loves his people but is ready to sacrifice parts of them for their survival (with maybe his first failure against Aridon and his time as an undead urging him more towards caution).

Other than that, I would really like to see Zyainor and the Dominion, not necessarily their armies or their leaders, but mainly their lands, the different people they have and how they do things. Like the issues that Praxeus' group hinted at in the dominion, or the different opinion the subjects of Zyainor might have about dragons or necromancy or the system as a whole (plus, a few levels of knocking down dissenters is always appreciated).

 

[Mochi King]

I wanna know about everything that happened over the last 20 years with every faction. Zyainor has more of this since the stories were made, while the rest weren't given much, especially the Dominion and Demons. I would love to know more about Zyainor when the time the Empire attacks them, but beyond that, I wanna know more about the rest. How did Cora meet with Kenos, what's Aedale doing, what about Orie, is Zelech still on the hunt, how about the Moghtar? There are so many I wanna know about.

 

[Mvicio]

I wanna know more about the Demonic legions, we have barely any information about them in comparison to the rest. Also the undead nexus seems quite more interesting right now. Ornasion is gone, Pentiss too (and now she can kill anyone without an issue), Haran could get a rematch against aridon´s forces (and i hope to have more ejara gameplay pls), Cora and the Zirr, Meya with the Rohir, the twins of the scarec nexus, Rahandir and his faction, Kazardius joining Zyainor to fight Aridon... and we have the Bonelord planning his revenge too.
The only one that seems loyal could be Keera, but you know, maybe she joins Rahandir too in order to help Salana.
Edoarus is making in army to fight the dominion so forget about him.

Personally i want to see more about Harmos as Grandmaster of the order of the flame.

 

[Mochi King]

I wanna know more about the Demonic legions, we have barely any information about them in comparison to the rest. Also the undead nexus seems quite more interesting right now. Ornasion is gone, Pentiss too (and now she can kill anyone without an issue), Haran could get a rematch against aridon´s forces (and i hope to have more ejara gameplay pls), Cora and the Zirr, Meya with the Rohir, the twins of the scarec nexus, Rahandir and his faction, Kazardius joining Zyainor to fight Aridon... and we have the Bonelord planning his revenge too.
The only one that seems loyal could be Keera, but you know, maybe she joins Rahandir too in order to help Salana.
Edoarus is making in army to fight the dominion so forget about him.

Personally i want to see more about Harmos as Grandmaster of the order of the flame.

Those under Aridon like Kazardius have a very low possibility of betrayal since he's part of the Splecir Nexus. As for the other nexus, as long as they Aridon doesn't get those cores, then they will be against him.

 

[ILIDAN STORMRAGE]

Those under Aridon like Kazardius have a very low possibility of betrayal since he's part of the Splecir Nexus. As for the other nexus, as long as they Aridon doesn't get those cores, then they will be against him.

Kazardius said during the true story that if his mind was still his own he would have a word with aridon so this will likely be freed at some much later and decisive point in the story. Freeing the speclir wont be as easy as with other undead because they exist to serve but it must happen at some point Kazardius cant end up destroyimg zyanor after all he said and done for it.

 

[Mvicio]

Those under Aridon like Kazardius have a very low possibility of betrayal since he's part of the Splecir Nexus. As for the other nexus, as long as they Aridon doesn't get those cores, then they will be against him.

Kazardius said during the true story that if his mind was still his own he would have a word with aridon so this will likely be freed at some much later and decisive point in the story. Freeing the speclir wont be as easy as with other undead because they exist to serve but it must happen at some point Kazardius cant end up destroyimg zyanor after all he said and done for it.

Also in the new Undead mission, Valdeer said that they don´t feel connected anymore to Aridon, i suppose that means that the Splicer follow Aridon on their own will and not because they are forced too. But Kazardius was rather mad because they needed to kill The last Zyainor Heir, Vail.

Not sure, maybe Kazardius will join Gardon instead of Aridon.

 

[Apprentice Darkmoon]

Also in the new Undead mission, Valdeer said that they don´t feel connected anymore to Aridon, i suppose that means that the Splicer follow Aridon on their own will and not because they are forced too. But Kazardius was rather mad because they needed to kill The last Zyainor Heir, Vail.

Not sure, maybe Kazardius will join Gardon instead of Aridon.

I mean, after all the lies Aridon told to Kazardius and his troops, the last thing he'll do is return to serve him. Probably he and his troops will appear when either Vail or her children are in true danger because of the Splecir or any of Aridon's loyalist.
Who knows, maybe stab Aridon in the back could be a great atone for the Zyaise undead.

 

[Mochi King]

Kazardius said during the true story that if his mind was still his own he would have a word with aridon so this will likely be freed at some much later and decisive point in the story. Freeing the speclir wont be as easy as with other undead because they exist to serve but it must happen at some point Kazardius cant end up destroyimg zyanor after all he said and done for it.

Which part of the story was this again? I may have forgotten since I usually focus on gameplays and legacy.

Also in the new Undead mission, Valdeer said that they don´t feel connected anymore to Aridon, i suppose that means that the Splicer follow Aridon on their own will and not because they are forced too. But Kazardius was rather mad because they needed to kill The last Zyainor Heir, Vail.

Not sure, maybe Kazardius will join Gardon instead of Aridon.

Seems like I missed this detail. I did want Kazardius to serve the Zyaise since they are currently protecting themselves against the Empire, Demons, Undead, and possible Dominion and Dwarves.

I mean, after all the lies Aridon told to Kazardius and his troops, the last thing he'll do is return to serve him. Probably he and his troops will appear when either Vail or her children are in true danger because of the Splecir or any of Aridon's loyalist.
Who knows, maybe stab Aridon in the back could be a great atone for the Zyaise undead.

I guess that would make sense. Similar to the Gardon-Salana thing. If the Elves (or atleast the Salana/Mina loyalists) abandon Zyainor, I want the rogue Splecir to join the ranks of Zyainor. More help since these guys have the most enemies.

 

[ILIDAN STORMRAGE]

Which part of the story was this again? I may have forgotten since I usually focus on gameplays and legacy.

Seems like I missed this detail. I did want Kazardius to serve the Zyaise since they are currently protecting themselves against the Empire, Demons, Undead, and possible Dominion and Dwarves.

I guess that would make sense. Similar to the Gardon-Salana thing. If the Elves (or atleast the Salana/Mina loyalists) abandon Zyainor, I want the rogue Splecir to join the ranks of Zyainor. More help since these guys have the most enemies.

The duke and the dragon interlude when zyanor is reborn through the marriage of Gardon and Vail. . ...also we can see his intentions when he bends aridons orders so that he doesnt have to kill the zyanese during the betrayal at the gate of hell. Krom even comments on that "getting sentimental now kazardius...Meya has to see this ..." or something along those lines

 

[DD Mikasa]

I feel like the factions with most potential are the sisters, the free undead nexuses and demons

The sisters are a totally different faction from what we have seen so far in arkain, they are a shadowy group working from the backstage

The undead nexues while we got to know them throughout the story and what they are all about this new found freedom and how they operate makes the far more interesting since they arent bound to aridon and can act free off his command.

As for the demons they have untapped potential in my eyes, there are still so many things about them that we havent gotten to experience first hand, their inner politics, how they govern themselves why do they need so many slaves.

A honorable mention goes to the kingdom of Rengar, i am dying to know what really is happening in there and how they are dealing with the plauge that has ravaged their lands.

 

[Plantpaladin]

Nice work with a new model!

 

[lekxman22]

Shar You did not kill Garan I loved his story A cmon.
Though Vanessa fell short peh never liked her tbh.

 

[Datage]

I finally got around to playing the last new chapter and the epilogue... and by the love of everything; it's good.

Spoiler

-First of all: I KNEW IT! The moment I saw Marin experimenting with Valerie in the epilogue, I knew he was trying to resurrect Van Durce. Honestly, I'm kinda sad they got back the grail; I was somewhat excited to see a "came back wrong" frankenstein-like Van Durce. How fun would that be? However, considering how off-putting angelics are, it can still happen.

-Missed the cage cutscene, cause I couldn't defeat Kasrkin .

-Honestly, really liked Marin in this one. He was at the perfect middle point of absolutly unhinged, perfectly decent, and teeming with grief. You really feel Van Durce was his best friend, which is funny, because they are nearly polar opposites.

-I also liked how he went: "Demons raiding your lands and butchering your population? Traumatise them back" Horrors within my comprehension always beat horrors beyond my comprehension. Born too late to be part of the Adeptus Mechanicus, it would seem.

-Liked the characters in the chapter a lot, in general. The traitor felt compeling, specially how she actually reflected on her actions instead of doubling down. The same goes for Richard, it was very pleasant seaing him grow some courage (although considering how horrible life had been to him, I cannot blame him for being so meek). And Prax suffering at the thought of harboring feelings(TM) for a demoness... that is just wonderful.

-...also, if my suspicions are correct, everyone's favourite angriest father is back! Such a shame his daughter just died in a cliffhanger. Oh well, he still has three more.

Let's talk about the epilogue: Vanessa! Nooooo! Honestly, I kind of expected Garan, we already knew from the path of the Dragon that bad stuff happened to Gardon's brood. While cruel, it somehow seems fitting, that Gardon is set to loose family at the hand of unseen machinations. Something something in war fathers bury sons. Also, I hope to see more of Bradley. Random non-hero dude who just murdered some of the most important members of the most powerful nations. He's iconic.

Still, I didn't expect Vanessa. My feels, man. She was a very satisfying character. Fun to use, fun to see in lore. Always brought interesting perspectives to issues. However, with her dead, this means a new human representative in the dominion... I wonder who we'll get.

But with the death of those two, war is now unavoidable, which means more Arkain. Yay!

In regards to the poll. Now I need more Golden Guard. Now that Marin has realised his full potential as a mad scientist, I wonder what new toys he'll make. Also, Van Durce coming back... man, Gardon is going to go through the wringer.

I, of course, need mroe undead. Always thought that something that limited them severely was their obedience to Aridon. Characters like Meya, Kazardius, Mordin, always felt more interesting when they were give leeway. I especially want to find out about Kazardius. I found him especially compelling, even more with the return of Zyanor. I also want to find out more about that one demon vassal in the north we got an excerpt about. He seemed to enjoy a great deal of autonomy for being a servant to demons. Also curious what happened with that spy of a northern power we know nothing about... yet.

However, the ones that intrigue me the most are Fiona and her boss; and what remains of the elemental orders. We know Harmos is still around; and Fiona has clearly been busy.

 

[KFD]

So I've just began playing the true story of arkain again on hard. Im curious cause I have not kept up to date on everything here or on the story of arkain that much. Is the "True story of arkain the finale" and there will be no more story afterwards or is there a continuation being made or something the likes of that. Sorry if this has been asked before. I generally don't have much free time to check here or be active in the news. Im still confused on how this site works. (Sorry for my poor grammer English is not my first language)

 

[ILIDAN STORMRAGE]

So I've just began playing the true story of arkain again on hard. Im curious cause I have not kept up to date on everything here or on the story of arkain that much. Is the "True story of arkain the finale" and there will be no more story afterwards or is there a continuation being made or something the likes of that. Sorry if this has been asked before. I generally don't have much free time to check here or be active in the news. Im still confused on how this site works. (Sorry for my poor grammer English is not my first language)

The legacy of arkain happens 20 years after the end of the second void war at the moment it has 4 playable missions and a cutscene but this is just the prelude and it is in development as we speak (there is even a poll regarding factions)if you want to download it you can find it in downloads or press here on the message shar sent on the news channel with the last playable mission.
The true story is over but now the legacy starts also due to complications with the other game that was tried the legacy of arkain will also remain in warcraft 3 despite the line in the ending of the true story .
So to summarise arkain is not over,the legacy of arkain is the continuation and everyone here has their blood boiling with excitment to see more of it due to how good the begging was.

 

[DD Mikasa]

I demand we get a baby doomguard hero RIGHT NOW
Give us baby doomguard hero or we riot!

 

[Shar Dundred]

Who are the parents?

 

[DD Mikasa]

Give me my doomling hero Shar, I dont care who his momma and dadda are, ill adopt him if need be.

 

[Shar Dundred]

Yeah, no. You are not becoming a parent of Arkain.

 

[DD Mikasa]

Yeah, no. You are not becoming a parent of Arkain.

I've given up on that quest so way in the past that if we head there rofl would still be a "cool kids acronym"

 

[Mvicio]

I cant wait to play with the Mighty demon legions, with enhanced stats and chaos damage...

Only to be completely obliterated by humans, savages or corpses with smaller hitbox and even better stats.

 

[Navy45]

I demand we get a baby doomguard hero RIGHT NOW
Give us baby doomguard hero or we riot!

I wonder, do they hide in bushes instead of trees ? Maybe they can have a "bring your child to war" day with Dorten and Guardon and Vail !

 

[Shar Dundred]

Maybe they can have a "bring your child to war" day with Dorten and Guardon and Vail !

glances at Garan

 

[Mochi King]

Hoping one day, shar gives us another secret boss of him in dreadlord form. Just cuz I wanna vent out some rage after my fav charas were killed. Killing you once isn't enough.

 

[Navy45]

So, two new demon characters.

• Matriarch Syzeela :

I had noticed these Mariliths in the screenshot and couldn't remember for sure if we fought them before in the gates of hell, but it seems unlikely. So her faction seems to be a sort of competitor to the classic demon legions, especially since she hates dreadlords. This could make her an ally of Ebira who also leads a group distinct from the legions... but after having just gotten power, I'm not sure she's willing to be much of a joiner. Especially since this Council of the Serpent (did she change the name when she took over or is this a "I am the scenate" type of situation ?) seems to be comprised of only one race/type of demons, which seems otherwhise unheard of.

• Xeltrek the Devastator :

So basically a pit lord war hero gone playing warlord in the mountains for hundreds of years. Difficult to say what to expect of him, hes obviously not a stupid brutish kind of pitlord but I'm not sure he's after power for power's sake like most other demons, because he seems like he could have had a shot at taking over the souleater legion (especially with Kersidar being... not the most dangerous dreadlord). And besides, I doubt there hasn't been any opportunity to get more power in the centuries he spent isolated. Whatever the reason, him taking over part of the souleater legion definitely will put a nail in the coffin for them, having lost basically all their leadership in the voidwar. With all that, the remaining legions might not even be the dominant power in the demon realms anymore.



I notice we still don't have information on the dreadguard hero in the screenshot we were shown. He seems really interesting, if only because we don't know the place of his race/type of demons among the legions, which makes me think they're the "so insignificant they don't warrant being mentionned" kind of demons (unless they're just Eredar, but since the Wrathguard exist as a melee Eredar, I doubt it). Like common footsoldiers that excel neither in strength, magic or intelligence. If I also read into the player colours, he seems to be of the souleater legion, and something like a basic demon "sergeant" being thrust into being one of their legion's big commanders because of the fact all the others were killed/killed each other would be really cool !

By the way, I wonder how the Demon factions will be involved in the conflict. Because, so far, all reasons for conflict seem to lie on the western side of Arkain, with the war between Zyainor and Kerrel, the border between the Dominion and Rengar, the keep of the Golden Guard, and the eventual landing site of the empire's expedition. With Isalmur recolonized and the grail back in Arkain, this puts the demon realms even further from the epicenter of the conflicts we know about.

 

[Enki555]

Demonic legions and theories:
-I'm quite interested in what can those succubi guards of Ebira can do along with flying succubi. Are they same race?
-It would be interesting to see voidwalker/voidlord hero. Their lore should be enriched quite well.
-Quite a rare sight to see cannon fodder pitlords. Strangely enough, I see them as pitlordesses and having banshee's voice to reflect their torment of having blade hands xD. I bet Xeltrek is nothing more than thrall of Ebira; and perhaps she managed to convince him of the vision of reviving Zindrach.
-Finally, we got Marilith content: The fact that Council of Serpent had four matriarchs to somewhat honor/emulate the Four is... interesting. It would be really cool if Aridon got his hands on them... Oh, I just remembered Saphira's comment of undead demons being rare when Margazzar showed up before formation of Kezzar nexus... could the "Four" be one of those rare demons who were raised before Kezzar to make simulacrum of Four? Aridon really need to awaken all his trump cards with most of nexi now betrayed him. I imagine them to be fanatical abbesses and perhaps Eyes of Aridon concept can be recycled? It would be most interesting if Syzeera meets Pentiss; they feel closest to Dark Elves than Demons themselves. At the same time, perhaps Brian would... consider waxing his flock by appealing to marilith's sentiments and desires... he must quite want some demons as his followers and collection. Besides, mariliths seem to be type of Demons who would find Brian's ideals appealing.
-Regarding demonic ghouls and doomguard kobolds, I get a feeling they are slaves that were corrupted into minor demons.
-And I just got insane and equally wild theory about Vermon's backstory. The fact that he refers to himself as Count (quite the humble title indeed) rather than Master could point something older; back when humans began to be enslaved by Demons, what if he was human count that was gifted the prize of becoming dreadlord through forbidden ritual (I still believe Nysara was priestess/paladiness from the Kingdoms)? The fact that he willingly sold his people as the first demon slaves might have appealed to true master of Mindslayer legion. Or maybe Vermon is just puppet, vessel or avatar of true leader of Mindslayer. It would be delicious irony that "leader" of Mindslayer who enslaved the most mortals was the first slave himself.
Once again, looking forward to demon content.

 

[Shar Dundred]

I had noticed these Mariliths in the screenshot and couldn't remember for sure if we fought them before in the gates of hell, but it seems unlikely.

A small number of them were with Hesrathion's follower during Hunter and Prey but yes, their overall presence was very limited.

Especially since this Council of the Serpent (did she change the name when she took over or is this a "I am the scenate" type of situation ?)

I notice we still don't have information on the dreadguard hero in the screenshot we were shown. He seems really interesting, if only because we don't know the place of his race/type of demons among the legions, which makes me think they're the "so insignificant they don't warrant being mentionned" kind of demons (unless they're just Eredar, but since the Wrathguard exist as a melee Eredar, I doubt it). Like common footsoldiers that excel neither in strength, magic or intelligence. If I also read into the player colours, he seems to be of the souleater legion, and something like a basic demon "sergeant" being thrust into being one of their legion's big commanders because of the fact all the others were killed/killed each other would be really cool !

You will make his acquaintance soon enough... And I think you will like him.

By the way, I wonder how the Demon factions will be involved in the conflict. Because, so far, all reasons for conflict seem to lie on the western side of Arkain, with the war between Zyainor and Kerrel, the border between the Dominion and Rengar, the keep of the Golden Guard, and the eventual landing site of the empire's expedition. With Isalmur recolonized and the grail back in Arkain, this puts the demon realms even further from the epicenter of the conflicts we know about.

Without spoiling too much I can safely say that their level of involvement (as for most factions) will vary depending on the chosen path.

-It would be interesting to see voidwalker/voidlord hero. Their lore should be enriched quite well.

Check the screenshot again, you will notice a new voidesque model there.