New Content Discussion [SPOILER]

[Scamator_crowned]

You know, this mission was different from what I thought it would be. Richard has grown a spine...also, really? That cliffhanger at the end? That was evil, nice one.

 

[UnluckyFootman]

This mission has a lot of...twists, shall we say. Even though this mission opened a lot of questions again for me the most sus thing is the "gate". Out of all things we heard and saw in this mission that is what caught my attention the most. I do not believe that they truly lead to Rodan because I find it hard to believe that once GG fell out of grace of Emperor, Marins property wasn`t confiscated and thoroughly checked. Even if that was true, where the hell did he find that Demon and brought him to Keep without ANYONE seeing him. Very very suspicious.

Also, what is it with the area in forest that can`t be reached because there is no vermin there?

 

[Scamator_crowned]

This mission has a lot of...twists, shall we say. Even though this mission opened a lot of questions again for me the most sus thing is the "gate". Out of all things we heard and saw in this mission that is what caught my attention the most. I do not believe that they truly lead to Rodan because I find it hard to believe that once GG fell out of grace of Emperor, Marins property wasn`t confiscated and thoroughly checked. Even if that was true, where the hell did he find that Demon and brought him to Keep without ANYONE seeing him. Very very suspicious.

Also, what is it with the area in forest that can`t be reached because there is no vermin there?

i think the night elf was supposed to be there? i also didn't manage to get there, so, who knows, but..yes..this map..did answar a lot of question, but i still dont trust Martin, but that would explain the gold in the treasury, so it's 50/50

 

[Apprentice Darkmoon]

Let's begin:

Spoiler

• First of all Kneels my apologies for contaminated the lands of Arkain with such... aberration choices. Now I would play the missions again and be sure to NOT INCUR the wrath of the great ones. It was a mistake I paid the price by being beated time and again. It isn't worthy, THEY are not worthy, THEIR RACE IS NOT WORTHY TO BE HERE. I'll just find them and kill them. I don't want to pass such pain of battle again, never...
• What our dwarf friend said and seeing this "Candle priest" in the Kobolds ranks... It seems Fiona and the inmortal Firelord are doing a great job by training the rats.
• Hearing the battalions and their regrets make me feel bad. Then again, they are soldiers who followed orders, I can't blame them for their loyalty.
• Marin's experiments are... questionable to say the least. Was he really using humans to find a way to create more angelics? Well, I think he repeated Lady Riana's sludge creatures quite well. The Golden Guard could use them against its foes.
• Marin IS a mad scientist, but with good reasons. All what he said to Praxeus is true, he cared for the GG meanwhile our paladin was playing the hero around Arkain. Sorry Praxeus, he even used a DAMN DEMON GATE to have more resources for the survivors.
• I must say, Nysara's return was something unexpected, and Krom was prepared quite well IN CASE she returned somehow and for unknow reasons. I sided with Calere in this one, even if she's a demoness, I'll put the benefit of doubt on her. After all, demons could be different, right Mr. Maronogin?
• No Krom! Do not listen to that mad lich! You find new friends and things meanwhile he left you to a void in your... bones? Either way, I don't want Krom to return to Aridon. Also, I liked his disguise haha.
• Well, Veln's true self was not revealed, but hearing the inner voice give me some ideas of WHO he is. Let's wait a see if we can find any clues.

What a good chapter. I'll wait for the next one.

 

[LISBOAH]

My review of the recent chapter:
-How did the Golden Guard could buy a fortress from Rengar? Those guys should be the Kingdoms' most wanted. I am surprised they didn't put a lot of explosives right beneath the keep to kill them all.
-Praxeus is not even looking at the guards when speaking to them. Such disrespect!
-I bet the kobolds are outside because they were driven off from the caves by... something.
-Why is there a portion of the map we can't reach?
-Treachery within the Golden Guard. Sucks doesn't it? I bet the Kingdoms would find this hilarious.
-How on earth the Empire didn't find Marin's mansion and nationalize its assets? They had 20 years!
-Marin is near a breakthrough after 20 years. I wonder if he is denial.
-I think Nysara is being honest. We all know how much of a b# Ebira is.
-I start to wonder if Captain Lindra's rebellion wasn't planned by someone else.
-I am already expecting the worse once Veln regains his memories.
-Oh no. Aridon is calling Krom back to service. I want for him to reject this call and perhaps look for Rahandir

Grammar mistakes:
"... a gaint mutant..." ---> "... a giant mutant..."
"... burried" ---> "... buried..."

 

[DD Mikasa]

This still continues to be the dndest of DND campaigns and i am loving it.

By the way why cant we access that one part of the map with the cage?
Candlelord xd got a few chuckles out of me.

So let we all get this straight we are three chapters in and Humans are still finding ways to fight among themselves 20 years after the main book stories.
We have a demon that not only fell in love with a human but with a god damn paladin of the possible types of Humans she could have fallen for.
Krom's new drip is dashing, he still seems to be pissed of by the fact that people thought Arkanians had wings and now he is hearing voices in that lil bonny head of his.

Hey y'all can hate on Marin for what he did down there but He acting like a Oldhead would act if you stepped on his lawn when he demands answer as to why he is being bothred in his chambers made me laugh my ass off, also I am glad to see that despite Renald being gone, his legacy of commiting verbal murder on people he dislikes still lives on into Marin.


Two theories here What if Veln is actually the prince of Kerrel
and what if Valerie purposfully messed up with the Proccess (If i am not mistaken wasnt She taken captive by rahandir? its been a long while can someone clear that up for me )

 

[LISBOAH]

We have a demon that not only fell in love with a human but with a god damn paladin of the possible types of Humans she could have fallen for.

Opposites do attract each other.

and what if Valerie purposfully messed up with the Proccess (If i am not mistaken wasnt She taken captive by rahandir? its been a long while can someone clear that up for me )

That was another angelic. If an angelic van Durce had gone missing, the Golden Guard would have unleashed a gigantic crusade on the world.

 

[DD Mikasa]

That was another angelic. If an angelic van Durce had gone missing, the Golden Guard would have unleashed a gigantic crusade on the world.

Oh right, thank you for clearing that up for me, this brain is getting old.

Opposites do attract each other.

It still feels weird she went and fell for the one thing that would smite her out of existence if he knew her true form, still the whole idea is kinda intriguing.

Also not Marin embracing his inner Abathur thinking of dissecting her

 

[Enki555]

Phew, it's been a long while:
-O' the twists and things... I wonder if there is any mission that surpassed that... as of yet.
-It is shame, really wished to go to area with cage. I was actually able to summon Tanara to that area at the innermost rim of inaccessible section, but the cage was invulnerable. Really hoping some sort of interaction to appear, but none.
-That kobold priest... was interesting. It seems we might as well get full techtree of kobolds... soon. The surge of vermins... could be reference of Arkain also having inkling of Warhammer despite amnesia.
-I still think Lindra was manipulated by some higher entity... could Brian be interested in having his legion expand? He should still be interested in GG, and Marin would be most efficient candidate of superweapon for him. Or old sack of bones himself? Hmm...
-Richard growing up he was supposed to be... very naturally. It seems fate was right.
-That gate is... pretty sus. Its main function could very much lead into Rodan, but there seems to be secret function that was used only. Maybe that's how Marin was able to escort doomguard behind the fences... by infiltrating demon lands only once but the crystal or actuator of gate expended. With enough power source... the raids on Demon lands can officially begin.
-Calere and Nysara might have connexion even the scryers easily overlook. The former being willing to give the demoness a chance... Calere could've been very much fugitive Demon slave and something familiar about Nysara could be: What if Nysara was actually paladin/priestess from one of the Kingdoms herself but got enslaved by Demons? There could have been rituals of empowerment that transformed few chosen slaves into demons (since Mogthar had that it shouldn't be a stretch that other races had that too...), but the result was she looked much different than ordinary succubus; more angelic but now demon. The fact she was able to infiltrate angelics' circle without even being exposed by potent wards... could be her former connection to Light and the fact that she was human before allowing to maintain the disguise. She even delivered the grail and guilty conscience to group and Praxeus... would be echo of her past life. Maybe that's why Tanara is also fond of her...
-Marin... for the new leader of Ardoz nexus. We have nexus war at hand. I still didn't move on from lost chance of Marin's steampunk army... maybe Legacy should be time.
-The mutants could've ended up rotting/cadaverous after they were possibly injected with Valerie's blood/essence, maybe that's what Marin tried to do for replication of angelics.
-Nice touche for morgue room though the ice should've spiked Renald's insides by now )
-Krom's gut instinct (if he had one) turn out to be true. The change in wind could be Aridon's wakening and scouts eyeing. I wonder if that grail also have hand, that amplified Aridon's voice... grail could've been Arkainian cult's artifact that was dedicated to God of Death. I just hope he doesn't lose control during the mission and Praxeus and friends would have much explaining to do.
-Last but not least, Veln's identity... it also sounds like anagram of certain late general... I wonder... what if Aedale tried to resurrect him but ended up heavily scorching him but the spell worked? Hmm... though I still can't exclude the possibility that it is Toreas.
Once again, waiting for the next mission: Hope it is undead and escaped nexus consolidating. Rohir, Zirr and Kezzar united... not sure about Lenira though I still think Brian could have swayed some to him; could Quiraness be his servant?
Keep going as always.

 

[Shar Dundred]

-How did the Golden Guard could buy a fortress from Rengar? Those guys should be the Kingdoms' most wanted. I am surprised they didn't put a lot of explosives right beneath the keep to kill them all.

They had surrendered and had the gold to pay for it. Plus the keep was not in the best of states and Rengar did not have so many explosives.

-Oh no. Aridon is calling Krom back to service. I want for him to reject this call and perhaps look for Rahandir

Krom is definitely not thrilled by it.

Phew, it's been a long while:

Now that's a name I haven't read in this thread for a while, welcome back!

Also, what is it with the area in forest that can`t be reached because there is no vermin there?

-Why is there a portion of the map we can't reach?

By the way why cant we access that one part of the map with the cage?

-It is shame, really wished to go to area with cage. I was actually able to summon Tanara to that area at the innermost rim of inaccessible section, but the cage was invulnerable. Really hoping some sort of interaction to appear, but none.

That is a secret region you can only enter if you completed all secrets from previous chapters.
If you are curios, then well... click this. But remember: There is no going back once you click that link.

-Marin... for the new leader of Ardoz nexus.

He would find their obsession with pain inefficient.

 

[Zergy]

At this Point @Shar Dundred you should make a Netflix Series of Arkain. (Do not conflict with the Arcane Series.) The Starcraft 2 Style of storytelling really flushes out the world a lot for the humans, or should I say it's more on the Rexxar Campaign. More Like Legacy of Praxues, though and the Fellowship of the Grail.

The Orcs and their allies face a new threat and Im assuming its the Princess of Rengar and the Dwarf Princess are the prime suspects here.

Undead: Yes, you made Aridon a complete Megalomaniac. Approve. Having a godly being is committing a 100% twist and turn around. Instead of accepting what things are he just decides to burn shit to ground and start all over again. Little did he know that it's futile.

Also, Take Note, I have watched Lord of the Rings all 3 movies, and I understand the references here and the structure of the Story. How Arkain came to be (Note I did not read the books sadly.).

 

[Navy45]

That cliffhanger was unforgivable !!!!

But seriously, here's my review :

Gameplay :

• Quite similar to the last Praxeus mission except with a LOT of golden guard. Still very enjoyable to play with the squad, and storming the rebels with Richard and the loyal Golden Guard was awesome.
• Richard feels a bit slow for a horse mounted hero.
• Maybe the secret fight should be optional, like you could go there after defeating the kobold leader to trigger it, because it is incredibly difficult (it gave me flashbacks to the Rahandir boss fight from the true story). It feels a bit annoying to be forced to do it because I did the other secrets (especially since I barely had the time to save or prepare)
• I might have massacred the huge number of traitors the priest warns us about in the north east... so the golden guard might be working with less numbers than expected. Was there any point to them being there ?

Story :

• Where there are kobolds, fire follows... I hope for Richard's sake I am wrong on this, but he might not have to look for his sister very long.
• Really happy to see Richard take the mantle of leadership. He also seems more... reasonnable than his father. I doubt anyone in the golden guard would admit it, even Richard himself, but they might be better off with him as a leader than Renald.
• Happy to see Lindra getting shit on by both Richard and Marin.
• Marin definitely got off easy, if it were me, he would have been thrown into his own jail, never to be allowed in the presence of either Valerie or the Grail. With all his hidden experiments... he might not want to be a leader, but he sure doesn't like having to obey one.
• Nysara returning is... surprising, even moreso with the Grail. I am inclined to believe her when she says she doesn't wish any harm to Praxeus... but Ebira losing the Grail after seeking it for at least 50 years is definitely strange. It would mean she ended Nysara's service without picking up on the fact she's changed and that she kept the Grail lightly guarded enough that Nysara could steal it back. Maybe Ebira already got what she wanted from the Grail ? Or maybe that's part of a bigger plan.
• Please Krom, speak up about Aridon. If there's any way to break his control, the Grail might be able to.
• So Veln might regain his memory and the damage to his mind was greater than Valerie anticipated. He also seemed to be overwhelmed by anger as he died... I can't find a theory that fits perfectly so I'll go for the one I find the most fun : What if he is the Demon God ? As in the same way Brian is Bhaarizel. That would definitely explain the state of his mind and the anger he felt. It would also mean the Grail was brought back by Nysara still under an oath, under the order of Ebira.

 

[Shar Dundred]

Maybe the secret fight should be optional, like you could go there after defeating the kobold leader to trigger it, because it is incredibly difficult (it gave me flashbacks to the Rahandir boss fight from the true story). It feels a bit annoying to be forced to do it because I did the other secrets (especially since I barely had the time to save or prepare)

I have considered it but I decided to punish you for unleashing Night Elves on set THREE TIMES.
Granted the mission design was slightly differently planned at one point, not allowing for going back outside
at all after entering which is the main reason why I abandoned the idea.
If I change it, I might do it so that talking to Richard closes the gates and disables you from going there and locking you out.
I do like punishing people though so I am not sure if I will.

I might have massacred the huge number of traitors the priest warns us about in the north east... so the golden guard might be working with less numbers than expected. Was there any point to them being there ?

Mostly just to show that there are a lot of enemies and you shouldn't go there.
I knew people would go there anyway but I didn't want to put a reward there for doing so as narratively
you were not meant to go there.
At the same time I didn't just want to put path blockers there so you can still decide to slaughter more Golden Guard
if you are like @LISBOAH and have turned to the Dark Side.
It just does not really help you at all.
Well, I guess you get experience if you have not killed all kobolds on the outside and have not reached lvl 7 with all heroes yet.

Marin definitely got off easy, if it were me, he would have been thrown into his own jail, never to be allowed in the presence of either Valerie or the Grail. With all his hidden experiments... he might not want to be a leader, but he sure doesn't like having to obey one.

This topic will be brought up again in the future, that much I can say.

 

[Plantpaladin]

Another good mission gameplaywise it was ok.
Story feels like it was good, dropping some juicy hints for future, my favorite guess is Blen is back.
He was a bit boring as was but everything that happened to him hints that he'll develop more of a personality like
Aedaele did after demonic corruptions.

 

[Nicolas Warchief]

All right, with the last chapter i will make my bet. Veln the Nameless, was Volarian Redfist, that's it.

Volarian was the most angry character in all of Arkain and his death was one of the most painful after the fight with Aedale and being burned alive, if you exclude Genethas that... was obliterated by Renault.

The only thing that would break this theory is no one recognizing him when he put off the mask, but maybe the scars of being burned alive make the old him unrecognizable

And, one thing make Volarian be the Veln an interesting choise: Shar Hundred write in the official description of Veln that after twenty years of unmemories, Veln developed a new personality that maybe could contrast your old personality. What character with problematic personality, actions could have contrast with a new personality, and a new "life"? For me is Volarian. The development would be so much interesting to me to see! Specially with the conflicts of the sisters!

 

[ILIDAN STORMRAGE]

Great mission
Waiting for something even more insane for deciding to keep Amanda alive and after beating that fight I know you will not dissapoint. I have beaten the fight in just 3 attempts because for some reason after I lured karskin away with tanara to one corner of the arena he refused to rejoin the fight entirely making it much easier by killing him only after the others were dead but you may want to look into that AI behaviour because it can be exploited making the suffering not that bad which will encourage night elven scum )
That being said I will also choose to bet Veln being the demon god . Ebira is always 2 steps ahead so she likely let Nysara steal the grail so the demon god can awaken.
Also at this point I need to ask was baldurs gate an inspiration for praxeus campaign?
Krom has a master he wants to escape like astarion
Calere is an absolute mistery like shadowheart
And now Veln is giving dark urge vibes . Anyway it is an excelent introduction of dnd like content in warcraft 3 .
All the prelude misions so far ended in a clifhanger which is an evil genius move and I love it.
Already waiting for the next chapter.

 

[Shar Dundred]

Also at this point I need to ask was baldurs gate an inspiration for praxeus campaign?
Krom has a master he wants to escape like astarion
Calere is an absolute mistery like shadowheart
And now Veln is giving dark urge vibes .

Interesting but nope, while I liked the original two Baldurs Gate games and play them to this day, I don't like BG3. So no inspiration there at all.
I DID put the Praxeus party into a BG2 run a few weeks ago though.

 

[Mochi King]

That boss fight was a headache. And what do we get for finishing said headache? ANOTHER headache. I never would've thought that the director himself would come forth and fight us, then give us a night elf recruit. Though, the Outcast is definitely right about Aridon being a fraud.

I honestly love the changes (i.e. new charas, tanara) and the things brought back (i.e. shieldbearers). Looks like I'm about to become really invested in this story once again. Gonna ready up a full document of questions to connect the dots of everything once again.

At one point, I really want a POV from the Empire for this. I wanna know who we're fighting against. Kinda like when we used Kersidar and his lieutenants in Bloodbath. I wanna use the Emperor and his legions. We would also know of the General that would lead the war, and also the plans of Tregakh. Knowing the Empire of the Empress in Espionage would also be neat since we would know if they will have a play in the war. I'm really curious about Veln's character. Some say he is Blen, some say he is Volarian. I'm curious. Is he a new character? A recurring one? Does Praxeus have an idea of who he is from the beginning? So many questions.

Amari and her Dominion is something I'm curious about. What were the things that happened for 20 whole years? What did Gorthog do? What did Gran do? Were there missions that Amari gave Inara? So many questions.

For the Undead, I don't really follow them as much. But all I can say is, I genuinely hope that Krom and Rahandir don't defect to Aridon again. I'd prefer if Aridon were to play this mad god game of his against Rogthil alone with the Splecir and Ardoz. Being the strongest being in the world, he's more that capable of doing that himself.

 

[Scamator_crowned]

I hope Rahandir ends up becoming the new watcher of arkain, that being said, i suppose next mission will bring us finaly to zyanor, or at least hope so, i really want to see what make thanok go mad, that being said, Aridon will find himself with less and less fallowes because of his general stupidity, also, was it explained in the true story what the deal with the nexus core was? because i cant for the life of me remeber, and if i am not mistaken the new nexuses didnt have those either

 

[Shar Dundred]

was it explained in the true story what the deal with the nexus core was? because i cant for the life of me remeber, and if i am not mistaken the new nexuses didnt have those either

They can be considered the "heart" of the respective nexus. Aridon awakened the nexus in his first
mission through them though they did not have their unique models back then and were represented
through the Necropolis building line instead.

If WarCraft 3 had not been difficult (as in causing random crashes), the first Ornasion mission would
have had the full Dead Mountain you saw in Prelude Two with all nexus cores of the then-existing nexus
on it for you to admire long before Legacy of Arkain.
Since WarCraft 3 was being WarCraft 3 however the map had to be made much smaller to stop the crashes
back then.
I have kept the old map however to be used for Prelude Two as I had intended to eventually use it again in the future.

 

[Scamator_crowned]

They can be considered the "heart" of the respective nexus. Aridon awakened the nexus in his first
mission through them though they did not have their unique models back then and were represented
through the Necropolis building line instead.

If WarCraft 3 had not been difficult (as in causing random crashes), the first Ornasion mission would
have had the full Dead Mountain you saw in Prelude Two with all nexus cores of the then-existing nexus
on it for you to admire long before Legacy of Arkain.
Since WarCraft 3 was being WarCraft 3 however the map had to be made much smaller to stop the crashes
back then.
I have kept the old map however to be used for Prelude Two as I had intended to eventually use it again in the future.

Ah make sense, Intresting concept, and probably smart for everyone to move their core FARRRRR away from Control issues Aridon

 

[Apprentice Darkmoon]

All right, with the last chapter i will make my bet. Veln the Nameless, was Volarian Redfist, that's it.

Volarian was the most angry character in all of Arkain and his death was one of the most painful after the fight with Aedale and being burned alive, if you exclude Genethas that... was obliterated by Renault.

The only thing that would break this theory is no one recognizing him when he put off the mask, but maybe the scars of being burned alive make the old him unrecognizable

And, one thing make Volarian be the Veln an interesting choise: Shar Hundred write in the official description of Veln that after twenty years of unmemories, Veln developed a new personality that maybe could contrast your old personality. What character with problematic personality, actions could have contrast with a new personality, and a new "life"? For me is Volarian. The development would be so much interesting to me to see! Specially with the conflicts of the sisters!View attachment 532378

I think Veln can't be Redfist. According to the info, Praxeus found him on Kerrel. Redfist died on Salria by Aedale, and according to Fox, his body was destroyed along with the Scepter of Healing.

 

[Mochi King]

Honestly wish we had a discord or something. But hey.

I think Veln can't be Redfist. According to the info, Praxeus found him on Kerrel. Redfist died on Salria by Aedale, and according to Fox, his body was destroyed along with the Scepter of Healing. View attachment 532434

I just replayed the Red Day. I indeed doubt it's Redfist. For Blen, I still doubt it since Zoia or Rath was there to kill him personally. Maybe Logan? Apparently, he kept saying "it hurts." I wonder who it is. I have a feeling its a recurring character if Shar hinted that he's had a changed personality for the last 20 years. (What if Veln is a character that's meant to change over and over. Like depending on the choices you make, you basically make who the character is. So it could be Blen if you keep choosing Blen choices. Redfist if you keep choosing those choices. Or even Logan)

I hope Rahandir ends up becoming the new watcher of arkain, that being said, i suppose next mission will bring us finaly to zyanor, or at least hope so, i really want to see what make thanok go mad, that being said, Aridon will find himself with less and less fallowes because of his general stupidity, also, was it explained in the true story what the deal with the nexus core was? because i cant for the life of me remeber, and if i am not mistaken the new nexuses didnt have those either

I really love that Shar decided to nerf the undead to bring real 'balance' in the game. I've been begging for the longest time since having a far stronger entity on the board makes the storyline more like their playground.

There are so many things I want included in the prelude. Ebira's faction, the faction from the short story 'Espionage', the Tregakh's Empire, Gorthog's Moghtar, Lord Brian, Aedale, so many man! There's also so many ways I want the story to go. Like a lich king style merging of gardon/garan to ultimately beat aridon/imperials, the meeting of the redfist sisters, a war between moghtar and dominion, rogthil vs aridon, rahandir vs aridon, krom vs edoarus, so many, amari vs zarin!

So many questions that I want answers to in the future.

 

[Nicolas Warchief]

I think Veln can't be Redfist. According to the info, Praxeus found him on Kerrel. Redfist died on Salria by Aedale, and according to Fox, his body was destroyed along with the Scepter of Healing.

My interpretation is that the body of duke wasn't found and Fox interpretate that Duke was turned into ashes. Veln was found in Kerrel still so much wounded, but this was years after the end of Second Void War. If we consider that Scepter of Healing is no more, maybe the Scepter was healing him very slowly after the events of Salria until the power fades away. Is a bet after all let see what comes.

 

[Mochi King]

My interpretation is that the body of duke wasn't found and Fox interpretate that Duke was turned into ashes. Veln was found in Kerrel still so much wounded, but this was years after the end of Second Void War. If we consider that Scepter of Healing is no more, maybe the Scepter was healing him very slowly after the events of Salria until the power fades away. Is a bet after all let see what comes.

One possibility I could think of is that it was teleported somewhere. But then again, I don't think Orie or Ebira would think that Volarian would survive Aedale's magic.

 

[Scamator_crowned]

Honestly wish we had a discord or something. But hey.

I just replayed the Red Day. I indeed doubt it's Redfist. For Blen, I still doubt it since Zoia or Rath was there to kill him personally. Maybe Logan? Apparently, he kept saying "it hurts." I wonder who it is. I have a feeling its a recurring character if Shar hinted that he's had a changed personality for the last 20 years. (What if Veln is a character that's meant to change over and over. Like depending on the choices you make, you basically make who the character is. So it could be Blen if you keep choosing Blen choices. Redfist if you keep choosing those choices. Or even Logan)


I really love that Shar decided to nerf the undead to bring real 'balance' in the game. I've been begging for the longest time since having a far stronger entity on the board makes the storyline more like their playground.

You know, I never realized, but…yes, for all Aridon's talk of his "balance" (ability to control the chessboard)...the undead were more of a threat to the balance than anything else. I find this funny. That being said, something tells me Aridon won't have a fun year. Also Veln it's very similar to Blen, putting it out there, and Blen was the only character actually Tortured in Kerrel, that being said, if it's Blen, he would have an rather akward time with the golden guard

 

[DD Mikasa]

It seems highly unlikely that Veln would be any of the major characters that died off , a hunch tells me it might be a character that held a spotlight on the first human book though, to a degree it might be Blenn the reason why it makes me think it might be him and not any other character is simply bassed on that one last line on his character sheet (He developing a new personality/character) for those of you who have been around since first human book era one issue that constantly plauged Blenn as a character was his bland personality and made it possible for Gardon to "usurp" him as the main dude on the human side and books

Now this is speculatory, since it has been a long time and sadly my brain gets older not younger but, if my brain isnt making shit up i remember talking with Shar on the Hive 1.0 inbuild chat about Blenn and how his poor reception by the fans made him change the plans he had for the Lad , could this possibly be a second attempt by Shar on re-implementing a character that failed the first time? I dunno but the idea is intriguing if you ask me, after all like him or not Blenn is the first character most of us played with when we started our journey on Arkain and he holds a special place in that regard.

 

[Scamator_crowned]

U know, i was replaying Lords of the Golden Guards, and it just hit me, Flavius has an Wife and child, plus anathor older sister.......somehting tells me they will play an role, as that child should be of age now...if they are alive on the continent of Rodan...or where they may be

 

[Shar Dundred]

SoonTM

 

[Scamator_crowned]

SoonTM

Hmmm intresting

 

[Mvicio]

Well, it unlikely that could be Aaron right? I mean we saw him died to Genethas in a cutscene. Neither Ramerius since he is dead and maybe Praxeus knew him since he was in the golden guard. He can´t be Flavius either.
Logan died in Salria so it doesn´t make sense that we was alive and beaten 3 years later.


So i´m calling it right now, is Sir Ross.

 

[DD Mikasa]

Vern's identiy got me and all the hommies replaying LoA to get our tabs in every human male character to ever live

 

[Scamator_crowned]

Vern's identiy got me and all the hommies replaying LoA to get our tabs in every human male character to ever live

Frankly, it can be the obvious one, Blen, or somebody we never saw, because frankly, other then blen, i dont know who could have been tortured in kerrel

Hey, quick question if somebody can answer me...the Grey Guard was assimilated into the Golden Guard as the Grey Battalion...right? Or am I remembering it wrong?

 

[Shar Dundred]

The remnants were assimilated but now both Grey Guard and Grey Battalion no longer exist.

 

[Scamator_crowned]

The remnants were assimilated but now both Grey Guard and Grey Battalion no longer exist.

AH, thank u for the clarification, i thought they where still around

 

[Shar Dundred]

VerySoonTM

 

[DD Mikasa]

VerySoonTM

Getting blue balls in Hive wasnt in my bingbook but such is Arkain

 

[Shar Dundred]

Getting blue balls in Hive wasnt in my bingbook but such is Arkain

Here's your cure.

 

[LISBOAH]

My review of the video

Spoiler

-Aridon must have sensed hesitation in Krom, but he appears to be willing to give him a chance. Though he is probably now wary of Arkainians since the Bonelords' "defection". I hope Krom decides to inform his friends that the undead have reawakened and that they should look for Rahandir.

-Bradley jinxed it by saying "What's the worst that could happen?"

-I can't believe that both Garan and Vanessa got killed in the prelude! Vanessa had her time to shine, but poor Garan!

-The whole incident was either orchestrated by the Rohir Nexus or the Empire. Vanessa's death will most likely create unrest among the Salrians, which can weaken the Dominion, and the Ca'ler's death will lead to Gardon going on a warpath.

 

[DD Mikasa]

Well...Killing the crown prince without playing him once its a...Bummer, we all know Gardon is prolly gonna raise hell.

God damn Krom is terrified of the watcher...I kinda feel bad for him...After all his service he is owned a permanent vaccation doing what he like's, yet he got a finish what you started and come back...Aridon the worst boss ever.

The redfist sisters are up to no good i tell ya, they were the ones who instigated this, Redfist was right for keeping them in line, look at em they done start a second war.

 

[Scamator_crowned]

Okay........first off.. Kiling Garan before we even had an chance to play with him..but..i..i have no words.......because really, this it's all Aridon fault, i just know it....welp...and venessa it's dead...well there goes the main peacemaker of the dominion.........krom it's about to..well to disobey his master.........Gordon about ti raise all seven hells, now we know what made Thanok mad..........well....i suppose...this clear up to Hotar taking the throne..i suppose.....man shar u know how to keep suspanse up......man somebody about to die

 

[Plantpaladin]

Nice Cutscene to kick off the story in earnest. Also like that all of the three factions are given motives.

Spoiler: Guesses

"Largoth" is probably behind the inciting event and Dwarf war since he hates Dominion and Zyainor. My guess is that at least a part of the story will be to hunt him down. He could also remain in the shadows like last time.
No alliance between Zyainor and Domnion.

 

[LISBOAH]

The redfist sisters are up to no good i tell ya, they were the ones who instigated this, Redfist was right for keeping them in line, look at em they done start a second war.

If they are behind this, then they murdered their sister.
Guess the apple didn't fall far from the tree.

"Largoth" is probably behind the inciting event and Dwarf war since he hates Dominion and Zyainor. My guess is that at least a part of the story will be to hunt him down.

He probably wants for everyone to kill each other.

No alliance between Zyainor and Domnion.

Let's hope Gardon doesn't assume that this was a plan from Amari to kill his son while getting rid of the main human leader of the Dominion.
He's still probably pissed about Aveen's death.

 

[Navy45]

Goddamnit ! I was looking forward to Garan's role in the story... but not that. And Vanessa dying after all that... I have no words.

Well, Bradley sure took up a big role, he probably sparked a war that will completely anihilate his homeland, hope the sarge's daughter was worth it. (Though I would like to see him survive this, I think it could be fun to have a random archer that was at the wrong place at the wrong time as a reoccuring character)

Well, now, there is little chance of this war ending with a treaty. With Vanessa dead, the pacifist faction of the dominion took a big hit, especially since Grofzag is gonna want heads for this. And I doubt anyone in Zyainor can achieve peace if Thanok, Guardon and Herdon really want a war.

As for who caused this... it seems likely they're the same that tricked the dwarves into attacking (this caused the negociations to be rushed, and there just happened to be a Kerrel unit just next to these negociations).

• The Rohir Nexus : While the sarge being dead points to the undead, it seems unlikely to be Meya. She doesn't really have a reason to precipitate this war. Her biggest concern at this point is Aridon, so jeopardizing the negociations between Zyainor and the dominion doesn't really serve her. And making them hate Kerrel just puts Aridon's undead further down their priority.
• The redfist sisters : Could be, as a way to gun for both Aridon and Brian. But destroying the Four is not gonna get done through strength of arms. They seem more the type to prepare rituals to end them rather than devote time to destroy their armies. But a firestorm arrow would be a piece of cake for Kenos.
• Aridon : It seems likely. Any war would help his goal of extermination, the bigger the better. He did invest in the safety of Kerrel, but let's be honest, Kerrel is doomed either way, this assassination mainly put a damper on the Zyainese/dominion alliance. And since the nexi left him, he could really use the corpses.
• Trekagh : He would avoid a mostly allied Arkain to resist his invasion. But we've heard nothing of the empire's return for now so I can't say if the timing of this war suits his plans or not.

I think we're starting to have a bit too many shadowy figures/groups operating secretely. Even knowing all of them, we can't tell for sure which one did this particular attack

(By the way, Aridon, I haven't forgotten about you, if you don't leave my boy Krom alone, I will play the Path of the Circle first and figure out a sequence of choices that ends with them only killing your rotten ass)

 

[Apprentice Darkmoon]

Okay, my review:

• Mr. Dundred... first Brockta, then Borean... and now Vanessa... I just hope Amari have something to bring her back with the shadows or anything. This is a big hit for all Dominion leaders, as the one who is the voice of reason was killed. They won't be happy for this, specially for Grofzag who lost his wife and Amari who lost the leader of the salrians and her "little sister", and imagined what Hortnog's reaction will be for the dead of his Nessy... Whoever did this, I'll help to hunt him/her/them down.
• Well little archer of Kerrel, pray Herdon and the others NEVER find you. What you did to Garan is just the start of your worst nightmare. Well, I won't lie that a smile draw in my face when I heared the plan to shoot the Ca'ler.
• Krom please, DON'T RETURN TO THE OLD SACK OF BONES! I hope Calere have something to cut off Aridon's grasp over Krom. Also, Nysara's fate at the hands of Praxeus... This is gonna be interesting.

Well, I'll mourn the fallen and be ready to avenge Vanessa.

 

[Nicolas Warchief]

Vern's identiy got me and all the hommies replaying LoA to get our tabs in every human male character to ever live

Yeah, let's start with Aaron the Sacrificing!

HOLY SHIT WHAT WAS THAT FOUR PRELUDE? Vanessa dead? The greatest war will begin that will make even the Second Void War be like child toy LETS GOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!

 

[Mochi King]

Just watched the last chapter of the prelude. All I can say is GODDAMMIT. I was honestly excited to play as Garan, Gardon's heir. Now, it doesn't matter anymore since he died. Poor Vanessa too, why did you do it Shar? I would've preferred an undead die instead like Lady Meya or Edoarus. Give him the handicap instead. But goddammit, Zyainor is already weak as it is against the Imperials, and Demonkind is still lingering. Bradley! YOU DAMN BASTARD! You had to light a fuse to a conflict you or your damn kingdom can't hope to win against. If not Zyainor, then the Imperials. If not the Imperials, then Demonkind.


On a side note however, this gives us a good oppurtunity to start the war immediately. At one point, I really am hoping Gardon finds a way to defeat the Empire and Demonkind on his terms. Dude is old, but can't catch a break. I also kinda hate that a side character killed two main characters. I was fine with Brockta killing Dorbric, and Orgen killing Brockta since they were main characters. I would've preferred a ranger from Kerrel to do it, then we have the choice to kill him. The Dominion will not like that their Archduchess died, but I hope they can defeat their enemies, the dwarves and Kerrel. O Shar, my Shar, and here I thought we were still given the choice.

 

[ILIDAN STORMRAGE]

This prelude ending gave me thrills it is the epic begining of a long Journey for both the characters and the players(the devs not to mention it will be a new monumental task for them)

Back to the fictional world :

When I saw Zoya's character sheet I was like why would Gardon even want the grail and even more so send a general to retrive it? He didnt care for it in 20 years not to mention he had other bussines to do.
now we have our tragic answer ...I expect inara to go grail hunting for zoya(of course claiming it is for Vanesa)as well.Maybe Brain could get Vanesa's corpse in the meantime And get a shadow . He surely has a role left to play....just like aveen's shadow you dont take a shadow like that for nothing. The path of the two(I expect them to be the kids of renova) will surely involve him Renovas shadow must have said something about them.
Renald ,Vanessa and Garan damn that grail will be contested.
On the front lines as the asasination is a clear reference to the first world war starter it is foreshadowing the scale of the war we have on our hands. Also betting time again the path of the watcher will end with the circle and maybe rahadir fighting this madness and rahadir becoming the new watcher. I expect aridon to be stopped from killing any more of the royal family of zyanor by a Kazardius that could find no other end than evaporeting after refusing Aridons madness and dying as a hero of zyanor. the way this will be done will likely be the speclir getting to be free during a crucial moment in this story or him straight up upholding his oath above the binding.
Also calling it now maniacs that want to destroy the world dont like each other. so roghtil vs Fiona (I think was her name,vandurce fire girl) and Pragderas is bound to happen at some point resulting in an eternal battle as neither side could be destroyed but they can be locked in duel.
And where is brian the spymaster when people like Vanessa and Garan are in danger ...well maybe considering how dumb the killing was maybe no spy could have seen it coming.
So much to explore ,to find out . Waiting to see how the story unfolds.

 

[Mochi King]

This prelude ending gave me thrills it is the epic begining of a long Journey for both the characters and the players(the devs not to mention it will be a new monumental task for them)

Back to the fictional world :

When I saw Zoya's character sheet I was like why would Gardon even want the grail and even more so send a general to retrive it? He didnt care for it in 20 years not to mention he had other bussines to do.
now we have our tragic answer ...I expect inara to go grail hunting for zoya(of course claiming it is for Vanesa)as well.Maybe Brain could get Vanesa's corpse in the meantime And get a shadow . He surely has a role left to play....just like aveen's shadow you dont take a shadow like that for nothing. The path of the two(I expect them to be the kids of renova) will surely involve him Renovas shadow must have said something about them.
Renald ,Vanessa and Garan damn that grail will be contested.
On the front lines as the asasination is a clear reference to the first world war starter it is foreshadowing the scale of the war we have on our hands. Also betting time again the path of the watcher will end with the circle and maybe rahadir fighting this madness and rahadir becoming the new watcher. I expect aridon to be stopped from killing any more of the royal family of zyanor by a Kazardius that could find no other end than evaporeting after refusing Aridons madness and dying as a hero of zyanor. the way this will be done will likely be the speclir getting to be free during a crucial moment in this story or him straight up upholding his oath above the binding.
Also calling it now maniacs that want to destroy the world dont like each other. so roghtil vs Fiona (I think was her name,vandurce fire girl) and Pragderas is bound to happen at some point resulting in an eternal battle as neither side could be destroyed but they can be locked in duel.
And where is brian the spymaster when people like Vanessa and Garan are in danger ...well maybe considering how dumb the killing was maybe no spy could have seen it coming.
So much to explore ,to find out . Waiting to see how the story unfolds.

Imagine if the shadows could be revived through the grail. That would be an interesting storyline for the Human or Orc paths. Or corrupt it in the undead paths.

 

[Mvicio]

Come on Shar! How could you kill Vanessa right away? Haven´t the redfist family suffer enough?
Herdon is pissed, and we dont know how this cool head general can do when he is angry, he is going to use the ironbarks to found out Bradley.
Also Garan was a nice general, it seems cooperative and wanted to unify arkain, with two big factions as allies, also maybe in the future when Amari and Gardon are dead they could unite, but i think both of them are inmmortal by now.

Also poor Grofzag... he lost everything, first his father, then his best friend Sas and now his wife, he can´t catch break can he? Maybe this is the reason he awakens his full powers with the earth magic? There wasn´t any more plot points towards that during the war.

Krom... you shouldn´t be with Aridon anymore, he has enough servants and the rest of them are off, I know Meya and Kazardius will fight him soon enough, same as pentiss and Quiraness, you should reconsider.

Zyianor has necromancers but the corpsers are burn so they cant do anything, however there is some Shadow master that could take the Shadow of Garan... Making him even more enemy of Gardon.

Was that Ferina commanding the Kerrel forces?

This was a hell of a prelude, there is no way any of the factions cooperate at all, nice work Largoth.
Also this was the first time that Alchemy was used right? Maybe is the reason behind the plague in Rengar.

The whole incident was either orchestrated by the Rohir Nexus or the Empire. Vanessa's death will most likely create unrest among the Salrians,

Maybe it was Inara´s doing? In order to increase her power by killing the Salrians loyal to Vanessa.

Maybe the faction from espionage is the culprit behind it.

Imagine if the shadows could be revived through the grail. That would be an interesting storyline for the Human or Orc paths. Or corrupt it in the undead paths.

That would be incredible, imagine Renova rising again against Larine and his Puppet regime.
Renova + Salana (and maybe Saphira) vs Larine Herdon Tormin and anyone that dares to fight the elves.

I wanna know what is Rahandir doing, building his forces? Being the Cool uncle of the elven children?