Naga Projects

[Misha]

aw.., a bummer that we won't see that cinem, Chaos
but.. oh well..

well.. my current Project is not naga-related at all, since it is Mastermind tank from Red Alert 2 Yuri's revenge. But.. i have a helper on the other site, and, if his animations are cool and hive-enough, the Naga brute might appear here

EDIT: other than that, i have a hunter Killer hydralisk mesh, but that's kinda it.

 

[sacridshadow]

What kind of race would you make?

 

[VeljkoM]

Remaking of Blizzard melee races so I guess undead since I really would like to make them have that undead feel...then again I think that naga are also a choice.

 

[sacridshadow]

How about a zombie naga? That'd be kindof cool.

 

[Chaos.]

Agreed. It would be good for the death knight. Then you can give him a raise dead ability and reanimate undead naga warriors.

 

[varsaigen]

I already planned on making a skeletal naga, but it'd be a pain to get it rigged to properly accept the naga anims. But it'd look awesome none the less

 

[Misha]

i see talk, but i don't see projects :3

 

[Chaos.]

Var, even if you couldn't animate it, naga skeletons would be awesome. They would still make a good doodad. It could be used as a corpse for after a naga battle or what ever.

 

[varsaigen]

true. That could be useful. Good idea.

Well, as for projects, I started to revamp the texture on my murloc reaper (starcraft unit) in my MurlocCraft project. I think animating it would be so much easier than trying to perfect the murloc marine anims. :/ But... one unit at a time, eh?

 

[Misha]

yeah

 

[sacridshadow]

How about we get some frozen naga as well? Someone may want to create a Northrend map with a naga clan that got frozen in ice. You knowhow we sometimes find mammoths and cavemen frozen in ice in the Artic every now-and-then. XD

Also, my undead naga is supposed to be more of servant for a frost revenant, or some form of powerful sea dwelling creature, not a death knight per say. Though one of those in death knight armour would be kindof cool. the death knight could be raised from the dead. lol

 

[Misha]

how about we actually make models? lol

 

[Lore-Wolf]

me cant :s I was thinking about doing some terrain again :3

 

[Misha]

You can Lore, but models from Clay XD

 

[Misha]

discuss

 

[sacridshadow]

lol It looks like a confrontation. All you need to do is raise the lower snakes heads (and hoods) up some so they are looking at the higher snakes. XD

 

[VeljkoM]

Is the uh top of the first platform going to be water maybe? Now it has some purple stuff, what seems as snake texture and grass?

 

[Misha]

It'll be like it is on the normal temple of tides, which is other texture, veljo. atm I'm just showing the looks of it

...and lol sacrid xD

 

[sacridshadow]

Could you maybe do a comparison shot? It'll be easier to tell what's yours and what isn't. lol Plus it'll help with ideas.

 

[Misha]

edited the WIP post to put in a screenie of the usual temple of tides, which is blizzard's

 

[Lore-Wolf]

and this is the third or second tier?

 

[sacridshadow]

Huh. Interesting. It looks like you're making a ziggurrat out of it. Okay, so on yours, the front looks like it has a door with three bobbles above it and is blocked by a wall. Not sure if that's accurate, but since this is naga, I would sugest adding water to it and the sides. Maybe even a waterfall, if possible. Sine water will be around the place in most cases, I guess you wouldn't really need a ramp, but it could make it look better.

If this is the second stage, we're gonna have to find something to upgrade later, which means we may have to hold off on a couple parts so we can add them to stage 3. XD

 

[Misha]

I am building it to be a SC1 Xel'naga temple-lookalike, those 4 corner-walls with snakes will be up and rotating, like in last protoss broodwar cinematic

Just.. I'm unsure if i should add vines.. and where..?

 

[sacridshadow]

The corner snakes will be rotating? How? They're attached to the ground. Maybe you could animate them to make like a snake, weaving back and forth for the working animation. It'd be kind of cool.

 

[Animalpower]

I tried to make a Naga RPG located in Nazjatar. I made Mak'aru, Nazjatar and Vashj'ir. But I did not have will to continue.

 

[Misha]

eh.. that'll be too much work, sacrid.. Oo;

the question is, do i need vines on the structure, and where should they be?

 

[Silverfish423]

Hey guys. I'd like to make a Naga map, but I am not sure what it should be like though.
I'm thinking it should be a Conquest style map centered around the Naga's goals to take over the oceans and water Elemental Plane (inspired from WoW Cata events)

 

[Chaos.]

I've been pretty busy this month, but I should be free now.

@Misha, You pulled it off quite nicely. My only complaint are all those lame pearls, but that isn't something that you can change without changing the original one as well.

@Animalpower, sounds cool. I had always thought about making a naga RPG like that, but I rather not add to my list of projects that will probably never get done.

On another note, mah b-day! yay, noone cares. Moving on.

 

[sacridshadow]

Happy birthday Chaos.

 

[Misha]

well i still like the pearls..

which texture should i use for the vines?, that's my problem

 

[Silverfish423]

Hey guys, I just thought!!
Would people here be interested in making a Naga RPG??
I think it could be very fun and entertaining!! But we should work together on it

 

[Silverfish423]

Althought maybe not an RPG based solely upon Naga. We should implement other races and such, but one of the races that could be chosen would be Naga

 

[sacridshadow]

Gasp! He thought!
lol Yeah, people have talked about a naga campaign for a while. Some have tried, too. Though an RPG is a different story, and much harder.

There's even a model kit with naga doodads, so if one needs to create a naga city or ruins, they can. Of course, the plot is one of the more fun and difficult parts.

It all depends on what you and others can do, how hard and interesting you want it to be, and how you view things (very general depending on what you're doing).

 

[Chaos.]

NAGA TECH TREE DESIGN

A Naga Fans production

Introduction: Our primary goal is strickly to design the perfect naga tech tree using our combined knowledge of race making.

Goals: My main goal for this project is to create a race of naga that will actually compare to the original 4 in terms of structure and quality design.

For each unit / building / ability / upgrade we need:

• Name (ones that are original and pleasing)
• Design (even a basic sketch to show what we want it to look like)
• Lore (a background story for each)

These, of course, don't have to come all at the same time. Just start the brainstorm and we will fill in the blanks as we go.

 

[Chaos.]

Standards:
The most important thing is originallity. Therefore when thinking of each concept, the first and most obvious thing that comes to mind, scrap that idea. So when thinking of the worker unit, the first thing that comes to mind is the murloc. Every single naga race out there does this. Therefore, what will we do: not use the murloc as our worker. Think of something new.

The second thing is factional standardization. Basically we want our race to look like one, solid army and not a mass of mercenaries from every part of azeroth. The naga race in wc3 has too much unit variation. I would like to stick to a main focus on naga with very few extra species. Maybe have 2-3 units be another race, but that's it. Also when designing their concept (armor, scales, fins, etc.) We need to stick to a very specific theme (color scheme and armor/weapon style)

Also, keep in mind function. It's needs to fit in the tech tree design establish by the original 4.

 

[Chaos.]

Group discussion #1 - Racial design

Our first task will be to come up with a basic racial setup. So please post your ideas or if you can draw up some quick sketches of armor and building architecture. This will help us stay focused on a specific racial style instead of going too far and adding in units of every color, from every tribe, and every species that lives underwater.

I also want to emphasize the fact that, since we are strickly designing it and not actually making it (yet, ), we are not restricted by the existing models/icons/skins. So use your imagination.
Discuss.

 

[Misha]

for worker, i suggest my naga sorceror, just replace acolyte model, icon and name, and that's sorted with auto-building and gold gathering (we'd need a different gold mine model for naga tho )

maybe they can be upgraded to spirit wood out of trees as well?

 

[Chaos.]

Like I said, available models or world editor work are the last things that should be on our minds. I have thought about a similar idea for the worker. (and yes your model would fit this role just fine)

As for name: Adherent (meaning supporter or follower) sound good enough?
Abilities:
Call forth (naga version of summon, similar effect)
Mend (naga version of repair/renew/restore)

 

[Misha]

then we'd need to get rid of a "naga" prefixes in the names and tooltips of units.

 

[VeljkoM]

Well I guess we'll want to replace slaves and pets from current naga race, right? Instead of mur'gul reaver some naga warrior maybe, instead of snap dragon maybe some archer or spear thrower naga?

 

[Misha]

snapdragons are naga and it would be dumb to replace them, however.. i have no clue why is that red turtle there, get a naga catapult

and also.. let's keep the murgul to chop wood for us, if our adherent isn't up to the task

 

[VeljkoM]

Uh no Snap dragons are tamed beasts used by naga. Though the replacement is just a suggestion.

 

[Misha]

snapdragons were panthers first, they transformed as well as couatls, so, they are naga too

 

[VeljkoM]

That isn't definition of naga, that's definition of mutant. Besides couatls existed before (also exist in emerald dream and are related to wind serpents) and also apparently thanks to RPG wow books its not even aquatic for some reason. Dark Factions rpg-book changed the facts and now those two are just beasts that were tamed.

 

[Misha]

..i'll retreat, to avoid a boiling argument..

but Snapdragons and couatls should stay :/

 

[Chaos.]

Just because they exist doens't mean that we have to put them in. My thoughts and suggestion for this (in order to make this vary from any other naga race) is to keep the focus on the naga. I want to make a naga race instead of an underwater legion kind of thing. If you don't understand what I'm getting at then think of it this way. In wc3 you have the horde which is a compilation of several races fighting under one faction. If I were to make an orc race then I would get rid of the trolls and tauren and add in only orc with the exception of some beasts like the wyvern. So basically I want to make a race and not a faction.

This, of course, is just my thoughts on the matter, note that this is a group project so the majority gets the win. Please keep posting your thoughts and opinions.

 

[VeljkoM]

Misha blame the wowwiki not me.

And yes Chaos I know your feeling about those units and that's why I suggested replacing them. Besides mur'gul slaves for wood since it would be weird for acolyte like worker to cut wood, I don't see reason for turtle and snap dragon. Cuotle is also reasonable since naga them selves cant fly. Unless its some mutation with fish wings?

 

[Chaos.]

Yes, couatyl would be a good one to keep for air. (still need one more air after that)

And if we can't think of a different lumber system then mur'gul will be needed. Although I'm sure we'll think of something more original in time. Keep the brainstorming coming.

Btw, where is Lore-wolf off to. Get back here and start working hehe (joke)

 

[VeljkoM]

Well there is that wind rider skin...oh right not allowed to think about that.

Mur'gul ridding a turtle and then serves as drop point for slaves? Kinda like yuris revenge.

 

[Chaos.]

If a skin or model gives you an idea for a unit then go ahead and suggest it. What I don't want is to base our decisions on whether or not the resources exists. Also, looking at an existing model when thinking of a unit limits creativity and originallity. For example (and simply an example, don't judge this) I might think "hey let's give our myrmidon unit the storm bolt ability...oh wait we can't, the myrmidon model has a trident not a hammer." Instead redesign the concept of the unit (give the myrmidon a hammer, again just an example)