Ideas for Animation Contest #4!

FrIkY · Feb 15, 2009

Here's my idea!

Animation Contest #4
Each contestant must create an epic/ultimate spell casting animation for any Warcraft 3 unit/hero that's inside Warcraft 3 MPQ.

Contest Rules And Conditions

No submission may violate any Hive Workshop site rules.
Model(s) used must not be altered from the provided models. Bone structure, however, may be changed slightly or in some cases made from scratch when import of the bone structure is not possible for the chosen animation program.
Animation(s) must show properly in game without rotation errors or anything to the effect.
Animation(s) should have decent timing.
Submissions should be uploaded in .mdx format and must use the appropriate in game textures, and include an in game screenshot of the model functioning properly.
Submissions must be posted before the deadline.
All animations must be made for this competition, no old works allowed.
Completed submissions must be physically attached to this thread.

Contest Prizes And Winnings

First Place: 40 reputation points and a special award icon
Second Place: 30 reputation points
Third Place: 20 reputation points

Contest Judging And Voting

Judges:
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Judging Criteria:

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X % of the winner shall be determined by the contest's appointed judge(s).
Y % of the winner shall be determined by the results of a public poll.

Contestants

If you would like to enter the contest simply make a post in this thread, stating the information about your entry.

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Contest Dates And Deadline

The contest shall begin on Date and conclude on [rainbow]Date
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Devine · Feb 15, 2009

Just animate a full set of animations on a wizard.

Gilles · Feb 16, 2009

One isn't enough. As well, having polls is usually a better way to come up with a new theme.

skrab · Feb 16, 2009

1 spell :/? 40 rep? oh comeone

I would say hmmm at last 5 or 10 animations or maybe a pack
Animation pack with Attack animations would be nice or death, walk, stand, and and and

i'll ask Blinkboy

FrIkY · Feb 16, 2009

Well... I'm not expert in those things... I just thought it might be a nice idea... eh...

skrab · Feb 16, 2009

the pack idea will be great
but if the rules stay same, like on the previous contest i won't participate

Mechanical Man · Feb 16, 2009

I still think that the best idea is the whole animation set.

Gausslander · Feb 16, 2009

How about you animate a discussion that slowly becomes more fierce as it goes on.
And no I don't mean scrolling down a thread on the forums

skrab · Feb 16, 2009

what are you talking about?

BlinkBoy · Feb 16, 2009

hmm, SFX could go to a modelling Contest, animation has to do more with cinetics than effects. Plus this leaves aside most users who don't have acces to 3dsmax, by forcing them to add particles blindly(on mdl editors).

I would suggest a typical animation pack instead.

A good idea would be a dancing pack, the animators must select a dummy unit from wc3 and produce different dancing animations based on different styles: Techno, Breakdance, African dance, Salsa, Arabic, among others. The bone structure must be wc3 standard so the animations can be transfered.

D a w n · Feb 16, 2009

we already had a dancing theme :/

Linaze · Feb 16, 2009

Besides, isn't it better to do something more useful. I know that isn't the sole purpose of contests, but it's a nice bonus to get some extra animations people can use. That's what I think, anyways.

Mr.Goblin · Feb 17, 2009

why not, a morphing theme, like you start from the tank, and you shape it into an other thank with more animations... but that might be ALOT of modeling instead of animation..

also what you could do, is to create a martial art animations... like 2 kicks needed, 3 hand attacks, 2 jumps...

for example

Kwah · Feb 17, 2009

Casting animation eez cool.

Wizard animations are acceptable.

Gausslander · Feb 17, 2009

skrab said:
what are you talking about?

orgies. what else?

Gilles · Feb 17, 2009

Actually you could have a single animation, it would just have to be really well made, and longish. I'd just prefer to have more useful ones.

skrab · Feb 17, 2009

Mr.Goblin said:
also what you could do, is to create a martial art animations... like 2 kicks needed, 3 hand attacks, 2 jumps...

yes, and maybe fighting animations like boxing or karate

LiOneSS · Feb 17, 2009

People who won't participate are advised to gtfo or they'll choose a stupid theme for the people who actually want to participate which will lead to a small number of contestants and ruin everything.

Gilles · Feb 17, 2009

LiOneSS said:
People who won't participate are advised to gtfo or they'll choose a stupid theme for the people who actually want to participate which will lead to a small number of contestants and ruin everything.

No!!

LiOneSS · Feb 17, 2009

They really screw it up sometimes. and then they walk away and don't participate and we have to do a really really stupid theme.

BlinkBoy · Feb 17, 2009

How about acrobatics as a theme?

The main idea of the animation contest is that it be original and innovative, most ideas here look too simple. Karate-Do and martial arts is one of the few which could actually go into a contest.

Also to most people who like to drop ideas for practical use. Contest not = requests or necessarily need to be useful. They are made for the contestants to try something new and to compete under an original them.

skrab · Feb 17, 2009

sounds good

skrab · Feb 19, 2009

any better ideas?
and blinkboy will you host and judge this?

Mechanical Man · Feb 20, 2009

BlinkBoy said:
Also to most people who like to drop ideas for practical use. Contest not = requests or necessarily need to be useful. They are made for the contestants to try something new and to compete under an original them.

Meh, I don't feel wasting time for stuff I won't never use.

skrab · Mar 4, 2009

BlinkBoy said:
How about acrobatics as a theme?

So? Will it start soon? =P

skrab · Mar 10, 2009

oh come on you guys

how about drunk walks, jumps or portrait animations?

Radagast · Mar 10, 2009

A dwarven Crossbowman riding a pony animation

Lord_T · Mar 10, 2009

Drunken animations for any unit would be sexy.
Drunk abom, anyone?

Avator · Mar 12, 2009

Or drunk critters xD

That theme would be awesome!

skrab · Mar 20, 2009

The drunk theme sound fun D: but
We need at least 3 people who will 100% join the contest.
At least few animations. Like stand, walk, attack, death, portrait...
You can pick any character from the game.

Lord_T · Mar 20, 2009

I'm definately into drunken anims.

Kwaliti · Mar 20, 2009

Wrasslin' anyone? If I had the time, I could do some funky lucha libre stuff.

Last time I was the sole competitor with some other guy, and Hawkwing wend and killed the compo when I was about to finish my anim >.>

skrab · Mar 20, 2009

What about the rules?
Shall we ask Blinkboy to set up the rules and judge this contest?

BlinkBoy · Mar 21, 2009

I do Evil no-IK/reactor/biped/CAT policies,

. You sure?

Kyrbi0 · Mar 21, 2009

Oh cool, Acrobatics would be nice. Acrobatics + a weapon.

Like, a guy flipping onto his hands and whacking an enemy with a staff in his feet...
Or a guy running around on all fours, then leaping into an enemies' face...
Or nunchucks. Lots of flipping and chucking.

skrab · Mar 21, 2009

BlinkBoy said:
I do Evil no-IK/reactor/biped/CAT policies, . You sure?

I know D: but is there any other way? Maybe just IK for teh legs?

If not then its ok the model won't move much around and the animations will be wc3 style. (walk, stand, attack and stuff like that)

BlinkBoy · Mar 22, 2009

nah, NO-IK! kinda unfair for non-Max users. Plus we want true skill. The real skill is shown when you force animators to use FK. I'm looking forward to see this.

skrab · Mar 22, 2009

OK than

ask Pyritie to help you with the contest template

Mechanical Man · Mar 22, 2009

BlinkBoy said:
nah, NO-IK! kinda unfair for non-Max users. Plus we want true skill. The real skill is shown when you force animators to use FK. I'm looking forward to see this.

Yeah right, in FK at least you can preview the animations in previewer realtime, not like in IK where you can't see anything (meshes floating everywhere +.+ and those texture anomalies in viewport) until you bake and fix all those things to notice you fuxored somwhere and need to redo the IK part which means again fixing that baked result, not to mention that IK animations are often odd in some parts which looks retarded and thats actually good if you pass the baking part where the bones usually move in totally different direction and the last thing, those IK solvers get screwed fast and without option to undo, usually it even crashes.

skrab · Mar 22, 2009

Will you join Mechanical Man? D:

Mechanical Man · Mar 22, 2009

Not really, I need to model and animate a couple of things for myself. (and my friend) D:

Doing my first horse animation set

BlinkBoy · Mar 24, 2009

well, who's joining I would like to see the victims, i mean the participants.

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Btw the drunk theme looks kinda good. I could make some show offs based on personal experiences with my friends, a baseball court and a tree, xD.

skrab · Mar 24, 2009

BlinkBoy said:
I could make some show offs based on personal experiences with my friends, a baseball court and a tree, xD.

xD me2
sign me in then D:

LiOneSS · Mar 24, 2009

sign me in too

Avator · Mar 24, 2009

I wouldn't mind, I guess, but when I read about terms of FK, IK, no-IK, reactor, biped, CAT and stuff like that, I think I still lack quite some animation knowledge xD

Kyrbi0 · Mar 24, 2009

IK = Inverse Kinematics
FK = Freakin' Kinematics (??)

I know that one is what Blizzard uses/d, and is really hard to make good walk anims in (or pretty much anything; you have to move each bone individually for each frame or something). Whereas the other (IK, IIRC) is a more natural animating tool, where you move, say, the foot where you want it, and the rest of the leg interpolates where it should go throughout the frame.

Or something.

Umm... I'd join, if I had the gumption to upload NeoDex for my 3dsmax9... And even then, I have no idea what I'd do. So never mind.

Avator · Mar 24, 2009

In that case, it's just extra information. I'll stick with 3Ds Max's Auto Key and I'll be fine :thumbs_up:

I just wonder if this theme would get too much alike entries...

LiOneSS · Mar 24, 2009

Kyrbi0 said:
IK = Inverse Kinematics
FK = Freakin' Kinematics (??)

I

FK=Forward kinematics

BlinkBoy · Mar 24, 2009

IK is not more natural than FK. It's just an style of animation. In FK you animate from parent to children, in IK you do the contrary; you animate from children to parent.

In my "soon to be released" tutorial, I show how to animate properly in FK.

Kwah · Mar 24, 2009

FK is better for swinging motions, or things that don't have to touch an exact location (ie: Feet. MUST TOUCH GROUND).

Or so my sources tell me.

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