Hanging Gardens of Babylon

[deepstrasz]

Not to be nitpicky here but that really looks like work in progress.

Get some inspiration please:

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Right now, it's too plain. It needs some details (more plants; floors/stories).

 

[kellym0]

pretty neat idea. feel like you could add more plants to it, how ever, these ones seem hard to see from a distance, [a bit ''thin'']

my personal favorite vines textures come from what is called the ruins archway doodad, which you could add if you wanted too, there is also the ''ruins plants'' textures which could add grass or shrubs to your structure, the last good plant textures/models that comes to mind for me, is the ashenvale doodads, such as the shrooms, and trees labled ''canopy''

still a neat building regardless

 

[Fingolfin]

Looks more like the hanging gardens of my backyard rather than the legendary Babylon. I guess it can be useful for something, though.

 

[purparisien]

I will edit the model to offer something more impressive with the ruins doodads. This one will be temporary

 

[cleavinghammer]

You could use the current one as the first of several stages (as with town halls), with upgrades giving it more and more plants so the last one hides the bricks behind the plants.

 

[deepstrasz]

You could use the current one as the first of several stages (as with town halls), with upgrades giving it more and more plants so the last one hides the bricks behind the plants.

 

[purparisien]

I've added an improved version of the Gardens. It has more details and looks more Eastern. However I didn't add a lot of details, in order to avoid a +200ko model

 

[deepstrasz]

However I didn't add a lot of details, in order to avoid a +200ko model

We're like having over 250mb maps now.

Also: Optimizing filesize through imports and map optimizers
And you could ask @Ujimasa Hojo how he optimizes his models.

 

[kellym0]

still, conserving file size is still likely a good thing, this is a big change, sure looks different. I like it as it is, so. good job.

 

[Fingolfin]

I think you could definitely fit some more plants in there though. You don't need more than 50 tris for that.

 

[purparisien]

If adding flowers looks good upclose, it is really blurry far away

 

[deepstrasz]

If adding flowers looks good upclose, it is really blurry far away

Make them bigger and/or change the colour to something more lively. They are too dark now.

 

[ThomasEddington]

Keep going, purparisien! This is an awesome idea, and I can't wait to see an update. I wish I could help but I know little of modeling. Just cheering you on, breh.

 

[purparisien]

It's quite difficult to use the regular flowers. Their transparency make them hard to see far away. I need some dense bushes. I manage something quite visible with this.

 

[deepstrasz]

It's quite difficult to use the regular flowers. Their transparency make them hard to see far away. I need some dense bushes. I manage something quite visible with this.

Sweet. Now try more plant variety. There are only four palm trees and the rest is the same bush spam.

Also maybe Stand Work should use rain drops instead of falling leaves?

 

[ThomasEddington]

Not sure if this is possible, but can you make the animations of the plants out of sync, so that they're not all waving at the same time? Might make it seem more vast if you have the plants waving out of sync, just a thought

 

[purparisien]

Ok, I've edited the model once more.
-Bushes have different pattern
-Portrait has background
-Birth animation does not loop anymore
-Raining animation during the stand work animation
-Raining sound effect during stand work animation
-2 different sets of bushes are animated

 

[Fingolfin]

That last picture looks good! A small tip when dealing with transparency: Use two material layers, one with "Transparent" filter mode and one with "Blend" filter mode. This will prevent thinner parts from disappearing when viewed from a distance.

 

[purparisien]

That is a good tips right there. I was struggling to find a solution

 

[cleavinghammer]

Just an idea, maybe have different-colored flowers/plants in different corners so it looks like several gardens in one building.

 

[FSK]

this looks perfect for my map, hope the edits made it look more impressive thou.

 

[purparisien]

this looks perfect for my map, hope the edits made it look more impressive thou.

I'm glad you like it. You can see the new version with the View in 3D feature. It looks like more a garden now

 

[BrothForMyPeople]

Good work mate. But it looks kinda depressing right now. The real one Gardens were fertile and opulent.

I give 3/5 for now.

 

[General Frank]

A wonderful and yet simple model that is perfect for AOE/EE style of maps.
Great job.