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Elder Scrolls V : Skyrim ! {lulz?^^}

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So I clicked this thread and I read it.

Incessant whining abound.

If you don't like the game, errhh, don't play it, sirrah. Play a game you have fun with, and drop complaining about the ones you don't; there are so many games to play you could live a life without ever complaining about quality!

As for me, I'll probably find it bland and boring because of its Minecraft-tier AI, but I'm still getting it just to shout FUS RO DAH (anyone notice how dragonspeak sounds very American? No? I must be paranoid) and blow people off cliffs - a feature Oblivion most horrifyingly lacked.

edit: "i read it" means "it got 2 pages longer while i read it"
 
I was hoping to see screenshots of the game because I don't have it yet, but sadly...
I don't want to spoil myself.
Some of your reviews made my opinion change on a game I haven't played yet, some have discouraged me; but some have also encouraged me.

I just hope that when I play the game, many of the bugs and glitches have been fixed and improved.
 
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I was hoping to see screenshots of the game because I don't have it yet, but sadly...
I don't want to spoil myself.
Some of your reviews made my opinion change on a game I haven't played yet, some have discouraged me; but some have also encouraged me.

I just hope that when I play the game, many of the bugs and glitches have been fixed and improved.

it's basically a FPS/RPG only with swords instead of guns
 
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Noted before reading this: I am playing it on PC with 4G patch, improved graphic patch and nightsky improvement mod.

Okay , truth be told , Skyrim is an amazing game . Stunning graphics , excellent equipment (with great variety ) , liberty to form anything you want , epic battles that offer thrill and many many more goodies .
But i cant help but nag about some issues too . For example , in order to LR a secondary spell be that conjuration , destruction , anything , you have to equip and unequip a right hand weapon first to cancel all right slot equips . Furthermore , the voice acting is horrible . The npcs have dragons over their heads , war coming for them , bandits, giants and countless other beasts at their doorstep and still their voices show no emotion . Its like they go to groceries instead of battle .
Also , the deadric princes are a slight disappointment . In Oblivion , the shrines were waiting for you to discover them after thorough exploration . In skyrim they drop at your hands through just strolling around the city hubs . Perfect example Sanguine , Molag Bal , Namira , etc .
Last but not least , the stealth guilds . I couldnt believe my eyes when i found dark brotherhood by that boy quest and stealing their assasination . Also i couldnt believe that it was discovered freely around skyrim who performed the dark sacrament . And was left dumbstruck when i was introduced to the dark brotherhood by a hot chick in leather giving me perky speeches . Where is the secrecy , the fear , the religious content of the old dark brotherhood ?

You god sir. Seems to have missed some important points: First of: You don't need to equip then unequip. You can equip whatever you want just by clicking it and it happens very fast and the game is paused while your equiping stuff.. so where is the problem?

Secondly: Okay you complain about the voice, well true it could be better.. but the whole damn game is voiced and with new voices even to most of them and they will react to the dragons (run away, scream similar).


The whole point with the dark brotherhood is that they've fallen from grace, which you really should know if you played the quest through, hence they will not have the same aura of mystery and religion, as they've turned into a "assassin gang" instead of the brotherhood. What your taking part in is an attempt to restore it to grace....


You do randomly encounter deadric princes, just as you in Skyrim randomly encountered shrine's, but instead of a generic quest these ones are actually interesting.. so why where you complaining again?

So well go back and enjoy the game.. and oh btw: the dark brotherhood armor is in no way overpowered, you'll get way better stuff.. hey wait.. you can actually craft it yourself.

Xian: Let me take a wild guess here: You haven't played it much have you? You can't compare it to a FPS at all.. its an RPG and thats solely what it is.

Only thing the game needs is a 64 bit patch so we don't have to use the 4G fix other than that it pretty much all I hoped for and mods will make it even better (And I also expected the bugs, so they were in some form, part of the "hope" - The DRM crappy patch was however not).

Twisted Image: Minecraft-tier AI?? Once again I am damn sure you haven't really seen what they are doing those AI's have you? Nah, I guess not - You can't compare it in any way to minecrafts AI..:eekani:

Side note: -Derp - A friendly advice: Read the books you find in game, read the story your going trough oh.. and play some of the older games and stop comparing it to the linear game that Dragon Age was... Oh and take some more quests there are so many out there and a lot of them is way more than menial tasks.. just like Oblivion had a good load of them, not as many as Skyrim though.

Sole point where I find myself tired of menial tasks: Thief's guild after main quest line... but I see the reason for it in the realistic department, just wish it was a little more exciting.
 
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Xian: Let me take a wild guess here: You haven't played it much have you? You can't compare it to a FPS at all.. its an RPG and thats solely what it is.
s have you? Nah, I guess not - You can't compare it in any way to minecrafts AI..:eekani:
:ogre_haosis: well i dont play it that much,don't blame me
 
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I'd say it's okay... Although most of them go for the graphics ><

But yeah, to me Warcraft III and Starcraft II are fun enough, considering Skyrim is merely Single Player.
 
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The way AI works in combat is decent. They switch between a dozen of weapon sets, if available. They also hide from ranged spells,archers and so on. That's pretty neat.

But when it comes to following you, the AI chooses the most retarded paths, going through traps you've already passed/triggered, sometimes they waste a crapload of time going around obstacles that can be jumped over, and they even block your way sometimes, in which case you'd have to tell them to move by issuing orders for 20 seconds. And that is very annoying.

The other thing I don't like about Skyrim is how short the main quest is. Not only is it short, but it's partially.. sort of shallow, you know? It feels rushed and unfinished, it could be a lot better. It's still quite goo tho. The ending was, however, truly lame. It was way too easy and there was no 'epicness'. It didn't have the proper feeling to it. I mean, it didn't provide me with nearly as much excitement as the ending of Oblivion did.

The third thing I don't like are the guild quests. The Thieve's guild questline was pretty friggin boring, to be honest. It had it's moments, but it was about 10 times worse than the one in Oblivion. The Dark Brotherhood one is.. nice, I guess. But it's also too short.

It's like everything good in the game is short, when it could be easily made longer, thus better.

BUT! That doesn't change the fact that it's the best RPG I've ever played. I used Oblivion as a comparison because it's the only similar game I've played. And tho Skyrim has it's tiny flaws, I think it's still better than any other RPG out there.

I'm also a level 33 Nord. Here's a few of my lame screenshots with a couple of spoilers in the last one as a background. :D

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Yes, it's given to you near the end of the main Dark Brotherhood quest line. The horse has infinite health and a way to exploit that is to train your weapon and magic skills on it.
Hurr hurr.
 
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Oh, great, another graphics snob (Or a troll. Or just stupid). Like if you'd play a game with graphics that are not made acording to the latest standarts, you brains would implode.

See, the graphics don't matter that much. Just loo at Minecraft with so many people playing it. They value it for the gameplay, the graphics that barely can match with Quake 2 don't give them seizures, you know.
See, caring for game graphics and their outdatishness is... honestly, you have to be a complete consumptionist retard to fall for that. A few decades ago games had pixels by the size of half of the screen. And people palyed these games. They loved it. There are some games that are ten years old, but you can still play them and get more fun from them then form some latest blockbuster-ish game. So gameplay, and game's artistic style, is hundred times more immportant than technical level. A good level designer will figure out how to make a place look creepy without shadows, a ten year old game may have a briliant gameplay, but there is NO GAME that would be loved forever for it's technical level.


Oh, and you whine for Blizzard. Well, that fanbase you're speaking off is not a bunch of retards (Btw, I am sure there are a lot of Blizz fines here on THW, so have fun beeing hated for your words). Blizzard games have excelent gameplay, they polish it more than any other large company does. Actually, the companies who actually care more of graphics than gameplay are the real mainstream assholes that are beeing overrated. They just lure various ten year olds with pretty pictures, but the games themselves introduce nothing new. All the ideas are recycled. While Blizzard, aside from WoW, always come up with new ideas. And they polish those ideas, not just intorduce the raw concepts.

So you see, Talavaj, at least according to my opinion, but I am hundred percent sure I will find some people who will agree with me, you are completely wrong.
 
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You god sir. Seems to have missed some important points: First of: You don't need to equip then unequip. You can equip whatever you want just by clicking it and it happens very fast and the game is paused while your equiping stuff.. so where is the problem?

magic in right hand cannot be un-equipped
even if you do a barell roll backflip and eat spaghetti at the same time you simply cannot un-equip a spell from your right hand
only way to do this is to equip one handed weapon in your right hand then remove it (so your right hand is free)
if you don't have a one handed weapon with you there is no way you can get rid of your right hand spell

that is not the only quirk magic has, it also doesn't scale with your level at all while melee/ranged weapons do in other words:
lvl 5 with sparks does 8 dmg (12 if 2/2 in perks iirc)
lvl 50 with sparks does 8 dmg (12 if 2/2 in perks)

you would think hah it's not that bad right ? yeah except later in the game when you are around lvl 40 and especially on master difficulty even master spells are a total joke
(I tend to conjure bound weapons so I got my one-handed/two-handed to as high as 90 pts)
then I realized I actually do more damage with enchanted two hander than I do with my master destruction spells (even though blizzard and lighting storm are ok)
now I got some points in conjuration and two handers (some in one hand)
speaking of conjuration dremora lord is gamebreaking

another annoying bug is that chain lightning always hits your companion/conjured monster (making them turn against you)
making the skill completely useless

as for AI... I don't think I ever saw a game with good AI but skyrim is far from the best of those
pathing is abysmal enemies can't usually climb/walk past even foot high boulders or even the slightest elevations make them just helplessly walk around
especially applies on companions as they usually get stuck/can't pass a mountain even if there are no real obstructions (a steep hill is enough)
your companions as well disregard traps (will stand in fire) run into slicing axes over and over and over and over again
another not very pleasant thing not related to AI that much is friendly fire, this is very annoying if you are a mage as most skills have big AOE
and you can easily blast your companions/quest followers to death or turn them against you, same goes for conjured monsters of your companions a single hit makes them turn against you

and some tips for quick skill leveling
restoration: use equilibrium on yourself, you can keep healing yourself while not running out of mp at all
(for some reason you don't get points in alteration with the skill though)
conjuration: bound weapons, the skill actually raises even if you aren't using them (just have them out while in combat)
alteration: just keep casting stoneflesh when next to an enemy that can't reach you
illusion: just keep casting courage on your follower over and over

@Tleno
first off, Minecraft is at it's maximum limit graphic-wise, it's a java game that is processing unbelievable amount of data real time (and it tends to jerk around even on high-end computers)
not to mention it's visual style is perfectly in blend with it's gameplay
I do still play gba games on my 23'' lcd monitor and I don't complain and I like them
Skyrim is a game whose developers bragged about how awesome engine and graphics they made with budget through the roof
yet the final result falls flat, that's what I complained about
I've seen indie developers with no budget to pull of much better visuals and artistic styles

as for your blizzard argument, yeah this was talked about before.
you think they are ok I think they are one of the laziest developers in industry and ironically I'd say their most original title was vanilla wow
and "All the ideas are recycled" in other games ? please, I laughed. start naming original ideas in diablo 3 and sc2
even their new "famed" online auction features are just copied from chinese online games
 
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I find it funny how much you guys care about graphics when they are the least important part of the game.

Anyway, as for the game (you just lost it) it self, loads of bugs, they don't kill your game, but will often break quests. Random crashes to desktop and such. I suppose its usual for tes. Frame-rate can drop, but idk if its the game or is it my bad laptop which hits minimum requirements just. I did have to dl a file from the net to fix the main questline though.
Enemy AI is good, ally AI sucks. Go figure.
Secondary questlines have ups and downs. Thieves sucks, companions is better then oblivion. Idk about DB and Collage, haven't done em yet.
Main questline is good, even if it uses dragon klishe. Shouts are AWESOME!!

I know that all this was probably mentioned, but I couldn't bother to read trough it all when I saw the first page on which you were only discussing graphics..
 
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Oh, great, another graphics snob (Or a troll. Or just stupid). Like if you'd play a game with graphics that are not made acording to the latest standarts, you brains would implode.

See, the graphics don't matter that much. Just loo at Minecraft with so many people playing it. They value it for the gameplay, the graphics that barely can match with Quake 2 don't give them seizures, you know.
See, caring for game graphics and their outdatishness is... honestly, you have to be a complete consumptionist retard to fall for that. A few decades ago games had pixels by the size of half of the screen. And people palyed these games. They loved it. There are some games that are ten years old, but you can still play them and get more fun from them then form some latest blockbuster-ish game. So gameplay, and game's artistic style, is hundred times more immportant than technical level. A good level designer will figure out how to make a place look creepy without shadows, a ten year old game may have a briliant gameplay, but there is NO GAME that would be loved forever for it's technical level.


Oh, and you whine for Blizzard. Well, that fanbase you're speaking off is not a bunch of retards (Btw, I am sure there are a lot of Blizz fines here on THW, so have fun beeing hated for your words). Blizzard games have excelent gameplay, they polish it more than any other large company does. Actually, the companies who actually care more of graphics than gameplay are the real mainstream assholes that are beeing overrated. They just lure various ten year olds with pretty pictures, but the games themselves introduce nothing new. All the ideas are recycled. While Blizzard, aside from WoW, always come up with new ideas. And they polish those ideas, not just intorduce the raw concepts.

So you see, Talavaj, at least according to my opinion, but I am hundred percent sure I will find some people who will agree with me, you are completely wrong.

People only value the graphics when there is nothing else to value lol

Take modern warfare 2 for example...good graphics, but the earlier franchises can easily beat it's gameplay i heard
 
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IT'S THE BEST RPG EVER!!!!!!GRATE SPELLS,GRATE GAMPLAY(I LIKE SNEAKING AND STEAL WEAPONS GOLD ETC.)!THE COUNTER ATTACKS ARE COOL TOO.I DON'T USE THE 1st PERSON CAMERA BUT SOMETIMES IS VERY USEFUL.I CHOSE TO BE A MAGICIAN AND I MADE MY CHARACTER VERY STRONG.....WELL DONE BETHESDA GAME STUDIOS!!!!!!
 
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Who cares about fancy graphics anyway?

I would rather play Mount&Blade or Diablo II a hundred times before trying a poorly made game with some cool effects in it to impress kids.

Diablo II is not poor graphic :p
 
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Side note: -Derp - A friendly advice: Read the books you find in game,
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read the story your going trough oh..
As in read the quests ingame? I do.

and play some of the older games
I have.

and stop comparing it to the linear game that Dragon Age was...
I compared it to lots of games.


Oh and take some more quests there are so many out there and a lot of them is way more than menial tasks.. just like Oblivion had a good load of them, not as many as Skyrim though.

I consider anything of go get an item, go kill someone, go to this place menial tasks. From the ~30 hours I've played, there's alot of them. Maybe I'm just doing all the bad quests? I dunno. I have done a couple of daedric quests and those were fairly interesting. I have run into an occasional puzzle in dungeons.
 
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Why he makes that kind of face like he is watching a porn book or something and his mother is about to enter the room?

Hm...ok...well...In my opinion, i think it is silly to judge skyrim by it's quests, as like in oblivion, no doubt it has lame quests, and also awesome ones...considering it being such a huge, open ended game it is normal that the creators to add a ,,lame" quest on purpose
 
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IT'S THE BEST RPG EVER!!!!!!GRATE SPELLS,GRATE GAMPLAY(I LIKE SNEAKING AND STEAL WEAPONS GOLD ETC.)!THE COUNTER ATTACKS ARE COOL TOO.I DON'T USE THE 1st PERSON CAMERA BUT SOMETIMES IS VERY USEFUL.I CHOSE TO BE A MAGICIAN AND I MADE MY CHARACTER VERY STRONG.....WELL DONE BETHESDA GAME STUDIOS!!!!!!

i...

...wow

anyway get over the graphics debate people, it's not the most important aspect of a game

and stop talking about 'high end computers'

makes you sound like a snob
 
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you can judge skyrim on every of those things. what you can't do however is say a game sucks when it doesn't.
naturally people have different opinions. but why would you play a game you don't like? and even more, why would you rage about it? just get a new game.
 
another annoying bug is that chain lightning always hits your companion/conjured monster (making them turn against you)
making the skill completely useless

...

another not very pleasant thing not related to AI that much is friendly fire, this is very annoying if you are a mage as most skills have big AOE
and you can easily blast your companions/quest followers to death or turn them against you, same goes for conjured monsters of your companions a single hit makes them turn against you

you can disable friendly fire via the console, if you want

  • open the console
  • click the npc you want to affect
  • type "sifh 1" without quotes, then press enter
  • close console

more stuff here

http://www.uesp.net/wiki/Skyrim:Console
 
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Oh, great, another graphics snob (Or a troll. Or just stupid). Like if you'd play a game with graphics that are not made acording to the latest standarts, you brains would implode.

See, the graphics don't matter that much. Just loo at Minecraft with so many people playing it. They value it for the gameplay, the graphics that barely can match with Quake 2 don't give them seizures, you know.
See, caring for game graphics and their outdatishness is... honestly, you have to be a complete consumptionist retard to fall for that. A few decades ago games had pixels by the size of half of the screen. And people palyed these games. They loved it. There are some games that are ten years old, but you can still play them and get more fun from them then form some latest blockbuster-ish game. So gameplay, and game's artistic style, is hundred times more immportant than technical level. A good level designer will figure out how to make a place look creepy without shadows, a ten year old game may have a briliant gameplay, but there is NO GAME that would be loved forever for it's technical level.

Funny, i have been playing quite loads of Quake 2 recently.
Agreed there.
As for the the 'a few decades ago' (and the rest), heck, i still play ADOM - albeit not so often - and such, and they still rock, even though i probably will never beat them (if you dont know what ADOM is, google it for christ sake).

Anyways, in my oppinion, this post contains mostly truth, glitch related.
As for the overall review, id say this one is the closest one to what i had in mind.
 
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First of: Do you play on a console? If so, then I can't relate your experience to mine, as I am using a PC

Initial note: The graphics are great - not perfect, but where talking a huge huge game with amazing visuals. Add to that the fact that mods is going to improve them even more and you have one hell of a stunning game (as one already have a great looking game). Even then its what the game is that's truly important - the nice visuals just adds to the whole package.

magic in right hand cannot be un-equipped
even if you do a barell roll backflip and eat spaghetti at the same time you simply cannot un-equip a spell from your right hand
only way to do this is to equip one handed weapon in your right hand then remove it (so your right hand is free)
if you don't have a one handed weapon with you there is no way you can get rid of your right hand spell

Sadly that must be a bug for only you or it relates to the fact that your playing on a console if thats the case. I don't have that issue.

that is not the only quirk magic has, it also doesn't scale with your level at all while melee/ranged weapons do in other words:
lvl 5 with sparks does 8 dmg (12 if 2/2 in perks iirc)
lvl 50 with sparks does 8 dmg (12 if 2/2 in perks)

Well no.. It scales a tiny bit depending on your magicka. Not much though, but what do you expect from the lowest level spell?

you would think hah it's not that bad right ? yeah except later in the game when you are around lvl 40 and especially on master difficulty even master spells are a total joke

Not true.. I am at lvl 55, and my thunderbolt smashes them in 2 hits.

(I tend to conjure bound weapons so I got my one-handed/two-handed to as high as 90 pts)
then I realized I actually do more damage with enchanted two hander than I do with my master destruction spells (even though blizzard and lighting storm are ok)
now I got some points in conjuration and two handers (some in one hand)
speaking of conjuration dremora lord is gamebreaking

In my case lightning storm is bugged and works like shit. Get yourself thunderbolt and wreck those monsters to shit. Oh and how is dremora lord gamebreaking? Are you talking about the unbound one or? Since that has never been the case for me (even with two spawned at the same time).

another annoying bug is that chain lightning always hits your companion/conjured monster (making them turn against you)
making the skill completely useless

Well simple fix: Don't use a chain lightning close to your companion or just don't have one with you? Or wait, use something thats not chain lightning when close to your companion....


as for AI... I don't think I ever saw a game with good AI but skyrim is far from the best of those
pathing is abysmal enemies can't usually climb/walk past even foot high boulders or even the slightest elevations make them just helplessly walk around
especially applies on companions as they usually get stuck/can't pass a mountain even if there are no real obstructions (a steep hill is enough)
your companions as well disregard traps (will stand in fire) run into slicing axes over and over and over and over again

Again, thats not the case for me.. only time I see them having trouble is when they don't follow me down mountain sides (or up), and even then they catch up to me at some point. And considering that I am mostly using a glitch to get up those places I wouldn't call that bad pathfinding. (I would wish they didn't activate traps, but hey it makes it more realistic and some of them will even warn you about traps).


another not very pleasant thing not related to AI that much is friendly fire, this is very annoying if you are a mage as most skills have big AOE
and you can easily blast your companions/quest followers to death or turn them against you, same goes for conjured monsters of your companions a single hit makes them turn against you

How do you manage that again? I can only name a few AOE spell.. like chain lightning, runes and the storms. Considering that some of the absolute best destruction spells aren't AOE I don't see the problem.

But wait, could you be talking about shouts? Well then I agree, most of them have a rather large AOE, but then just learn to aim..

As in read the quests ingame? I do.

Nice picture, but what I meant is that there is a lot of story to it and listening to the people you meet (both good and bad ones) also gives you extra info, noticing placement of items and similar also tells a story - And Skyrim is full of it, dive down a lake and find something which makes you realize how a certain accident must have occurred years ago and stuff like that.

But yea, the issue of difference might be due to difference in play style. For me when I play a RPG I tend to explore everything before moving on. I am lvl 55 by now and still haven't gotten more than 2 steps or so into the main story. I've discovered and read hundreds of books and found a lot of interesting quests. So yea I have a lot more to do and I feel fairly satisfied.

Of course there is smaller things I wish they would fix and some bigger ones, but I am counting on mods to address those issues. Like how standing on a fire in most cases doesn't hurt you. How certain npc's in some quests that relates to one another doesn't react realistic and how some quests sadly are bugged.

I compared it to lots of games.

Hard to know when you only mentioned a few ;)


I consider anything of go get an item, go kill someone, go to this place menial tasks. From the ~30 hours I've played, there's a lot of them. Maybe I'm just doing all the bad quests? I dunno. I have done a couple of Daedric quests and those were fairly interesting. I have run into an occasional puzzle in dungeons.

Indeed, though for me I consider doing the same quest over and over a menial task. By your definition almost everything you'll ever encounter in any game comes down to what you just described (with twists of location, enemies and such). And that basically what you can expect from any game. I tend to believe Shivering Isles to have been the one with best disguised quests of that type, although Skyrim does a good job, with the exception of thief's guild.
 
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1. The Graphics are a lot better than most games released this year, Rage is the only exception I can think of.

2. I don't give a shit if the graphics are 2D, if it's a god damn epic game, I'll play it anyway.

3. It's a good game overall, it was worth my 60 dollars, because I'll be playing it for the next 2-3 years like I did Oblivion.
 
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To me Skyrim looks like something I would screw around more than actually play seriously.

Well that is a must in any sandbox styled game :D Killing everyone in a city and similar is always part of the game. Just remember to save first (and to get the mod so you can kill the children as well).

Ice Form makes for nice entertainment in that area.
 
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Red Baron, what you said about mods.....
Well, maybe Bethesda won't fix the bugs, but surely mods and unofficial patches will...
Take morrowind for example, it has so many mods that improve the gameplay of it(like the vampire realism) or the graphic enhancer, which makes graphics way better, comparable to Oblivion...
I wonder what a graphic enhancer would do to Skyrim if it is possible to make one for this game
 
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I think it's an amazing game, btw, if you want to increase framerate and graphics, Google it, you can change it in the game files, I'm still having fun with it, love the character customization, wasn't planning on playing Khajiit anyway.
Almost every game sucks if you ignore the gameplay, I ignore the graphics, because I'm focusing on the game, the game IS better than Oblivion, it returned the feeling I got from playing Morrowind to me and what I think is that you're just a troll!

That's my opinion about the best game of 2011, thank you!
 
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bug list from elder scrolls wikia:
"Equipping Spells: Impossible to unequip or change spells on the right hand. To fix it, one must equip a weapon to this hand. (PC)"

you are either trolling or your skyrim is the least buggy on the planet

- pretty much all spells have AOE
- magic does not scale as well as melee/ranged damage or doesn't scale at all (100 pt in two/one handed and ranged passively raises damage by 40%)
- two hitting, I don't care about "adept" or whatever difficulty you play at
however melee/ranged does incomparably more damage (up to 60x damage multiplier)
- dremora lord is overpowered, it can 5~6 hit a dragon hence gamebreaking in that sense lol
- not use game mechanics because of other broken mechanics ? great argument, I always use companions because it is an available game mechanism and because bethesda decided to make this god awful and useless carry weight BS
force players into searching for tweaks or console commands or "do it some other way, because we just can't design crap" surely sounds like bethesda
- if we assume our companion is a generic redneck with 30IQ then yeah their behaviour is realistic

but yeah I ended up "doing it other way" and became dual-wielding bound sword conjurer eeer two hander destr enchant something... class
also IMO enchanting/smithing is rather unbalanced as well you can have 100% fire/ice resist from only like 2 items (turning dragons into punching bags)

interesting note is I don't crash to desktop (or in any other way for that matter) and luckily no freezing here so far
 
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What the hell, this thread is more popular than any Warcraft related thread. :p

But Talavaj, it seriously looks like you just want to dislike the game. Most things you whine about are completely negligible, like some minor balance issues or graphical glitches.

he has stated multiple times that he doesn't dislike the game. he is just pointing out the issues he has with it. stop hating & read the whole thread.
 
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It... Does, sadly.
But very rarely. Happened twice to me when entering a new zone(discovering an area. Forces you to shut down the game through CTRL+ALT+DELETE.), and a few times randomly(but it un-stuck after a couple of seconds.).

What is WRONG with Bethesda games?

Notched pickaxe ftw!

It's not craftable, you miney!
 
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why most of the people say that graphics is not an important thing on the game???if the graphics where screwed up then the game(although it would have good story etc.)would be rubbish...
 
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