Balrog Of Moria

[Moderator]

11:01, 3rd Apr 2015
MiniMage: Useful.

 

[war55]

good

 

[Direfury]

The custom animations are too rigid. You should work on those.

 

[HerrDave]

Ah, curse my name with a thousand wretched blighted chains.

I am beaten to the Balrog, and I have neglected the request to make one for far too long.

I take off my hat to you, good sir! Well done!

 

[KarlKrump]

Looks great, can't wait to test it.

 

[Splub]

Awesome model!

 

[Heinvers]

The custom animations are too rigid. You should work on those.

Agreed.

'love the morph anims and the whip

 

[Misha]

.. shouldn't his wings be leaning little more to the back? it kinda doesn't look that nice from the usual warcraft camera angle, he's like fearful something would drop on his head

the wrap kinda feels messy as well, not too sure what can be done about it tho..

and anims.. well you got other people commenting about them, i'm just gonna say arms are sometimes wonky

 

[Sellenisko]

.. shouldn't his wings be leaning little more to the back? it kinda doesn't look that nice from the usual warcraft camera angle, he's like fearful something would drop on his head

the wrap kinda feels messy as well, not too sure what can be done about it tho..

and anims.. well you got other people commenting about them, i'm just gonna say arms are sometimes wonky

I will work on him, definitely. Just needed more opinions of the people. About his wings...well... I was inspired by the balrog from Battle for Middle Earth, where he has wings really like this. I had his wings more on the back, I thought they look better like this. I might try to get them back.

 

[Forsaken]

Awesome!

 

[WhiteFang]

This is very good. Looks like your planning to make a dominating return! Ill use this for sure

 

[Sellenisko]

This is very good. Looks like your planning to make a dominating return! Ill use this for sure

Dominating return ?

 

[Dinodin]

Looks awesome! I love it Will be useful to my LOTR map 5/5

 

[Blood Raven]

Looks awesome, but you really should've used praticles (atleast the viewer doesn't show them...?) and animated textures. Also, there a places from the lavacracks texture with brown patches of dirt, so I suggest trying other lava cracks texture.
The mesh and wrapping is kickass though

 

[MoCo]

Pretty cool already. But I think his actual skin should be darker, nearly black, without too much lave cracks, and there should be more flames and fire around him. Also I think colors of fire are more towards orange, than red. (I like this picture http://fc09.deviantart.net/fs70/i/2012/158/3/d/lotr__balrog_by_arkis-d52nfzr.jpg)

I could imagine this model using the dark, glowing skin of the transformed demon hunter in demon form (or just something very dark). Then there should be plenty of fire around and I would suggest using a better fire effect than the current one. Finally, add some red-glow eyes and it should look quite cool.

 

[Edge45]

Hey!, I thought this guy is dead, shot down by the Greybeardy guy eh... Gandalf himself,
We'll, still the same, I've pretty much like the in-game textures you use, I still need to test this to rate though :>

 

[NhazUl]

An awesome balrog, and they do fly btw. Anyway, the fire on him looks kind of static so I recommend the use of an animated texture (the lava cracks layer moving slow and then an overlay add alpha lava cracks, moving fast in the opposite direction to give it some more unpredictable, fiery appearance.) And maybe some sparks when the whip cracks?

 

[Sellenisko]

Good news everyone. If all goes well I might have someone whos skills with texture are legendary and this guy mght help me with Smaug and Balrog....and maaaan if he will help me...I will definitely tinker the Balrog a little more...

 

[Marshmalo]

wow this is amazing and really useful for LOTR maps! I like the attack animation it feels very similiar to the original in the movie.

5/5

 

[Fingolfin]

Looks awesome, but you really should've used praticles (atleast the viewer doesn't show them...?) and animated textures. Also, there a places from the lavacracks texture with brown patches of dirt, so I suggest trying other lava cracks texture.
The mesh and wrapping is kickass though

The hive viewer does not show particles.

@Sellenisko: Nice model. I'm sorry i never got around to texture it, though i feel like you have done a well enough work with the wrap to make the ingame texture work as it is. I hope you keep making lotr models, it is perhaps the biggest genre in wc3 mapmaking, and all models made for it are guaranteed to be used by a lot of people.

 

[The Warchief]

Nice job! My only suggestion is that you should make the model a bit bigger. I know we can make it bigger from the editor but that messes up particles. The models default scale is really small for a balrog.

 

[Valandil]

The hive viewer does not show particles.

@Sellenisko: Nice model. I'm sorry i never got around to texture it, though i feel like you have done a well enough work with the wrap to make the ingame texture work as it is. I hope you keep making lotr models, it is perhaps the biggest genre in wc3 mapmaking, and all models made for it are guaranteed to be used by a lot of people.

Yes, you are awesome lotr model maker too ! Do you still making models ?

 

[Sellenisko]

The hive viewer does not show particles.

@Sellenisko: Nice model. I'm sorry i never got around to texture it, though i feel like you have done a well enough work with the wrap to make the ingame texture work as it is. I hope you keep making lotr models, it is perhaps the biggest genre in wc3 mapmaking, and all models made for it are guaranteed to be used by a lot of people.

Thanks for the comment. Its ok, I understand you are busy. but as I said there is someone else who jsut got interested. I might make more models LOtr themed....

 

[jonbon29]

Very cool dude, I was looking for a demonic unit to use as a mini hero and this is perfect. Although the wings are a little upward and it should be more to his back. Anyway I like it what it is right now, in game textures, low file size and awesome model indeed. Hope you make an icon for this.

 

[Lord_Marrowgrath]

Good! Awesome! Cool! Yea! Ovvvv yea! 5/5! Uuuvv yea! +rep Ovv yeaa...

 

[DelmarVladek]

Move quite alot like the one in War of the Ring.
Wish there were a better texture, but as you said, you'd probably have to do it yourself.
Either way, nice work with ingame textures, and the custom animations, though rigid simulate very well the War of the Ring model.

 

[DUTY OF RS]

Nice nice!
I didnt like the position of the wings so well, but its an totaly 4/5!
Good job, hope to see more Lotr models!

 

[ShadowShaman.mn]

Not approved. I always get rejected by that.

 

[Minder]

Awesome! It is good that you added flying animations

 

[InfernalTater]

It took me a minute just to stop staring at it and start writing a comment.

This is awesome. As awesome as doom guards may be, it's about damn time somebody made a good balrog model so we can stop using them in its place in all our lotr maps.

Great use of in-game textures, great file size, the whole thing is incredible and I especially like the whip.

The only thing stopping me from saying this deserves a DC is the fact that its animations are simply too stiff and need to be smoother, with more arcs and less straight movement.

By the way, you might want to improve the head and horns to look more like the inspiring concept. It would take a lot of words to describe how to make them look more alike, but thankfully I think you can tell pretty clearly by looking at them.

5/5.

 

[Sellenisko]

I decided to upgrade the model, because somebody is making new custom texture. So i will mote the wing s a bit to the back and will try to improve some things all of you suggested.

InfernalTater: Thank you again. Will try to o my best. I thought too its time to make some better balrog... All versions of Balrog i found was only some strange moifications of ddoomguard with even stranger custom textures...andd well..they were even worse than the normal doom guard...Anyway, lets get back to modelling

 

[Panda]

Love it, very dark

 

[InfernalTater]

Hey, good changes, but I've noticed something else.

During the spell animation, the whip doesn't lash properly at all. It's like a bar stuck in a bent shape. It should have a sort of "bump" that moves from the handle of the whip to the end as he lashes out, with the whip straightening behind the bump as the bump moves forward up the length of the whip, reaching the end just at the end of lash.

This also definitely needs some variations to its animations so he isn't doing the exact same thing over and over again.

 

[Archian]

Very useful model for all those Lord of the Rings maps.

I played around with it in the World Editor. Some of the cloud models and other fire effects uploaded here at the Hive fits perfectly with this model when used as attachments to add more effects.

Editor Screenshot

 

[Sellenisko]

So. this was my Balrog with inagem textures. Now its time to move the scale - here is preparing balrog with extra textures - meet the Balrog 2.0

 

[Archian]

@Sellenisko holy shit dude that's awesome! When can we expect an update with this awesome texture <3

Also great use of in game textures!

 

[GhostThruster]

trust me, that's not an in-game texture

 

[Sellenisko]

@Sellenisko holy shit dude that's awesome! When can we expect an update with this awesome texture <3

Also great use of in game textures!

well, thats really not infame texture it was made by mighty GhostThruster I think I will release it soon...I wanted to play a little with animations...but...well we would wait another year before they would be perfect...so...just a little longer of waiting and its out

 

[Archian]

with inagem textures

Well, it definitely would have been even more amazing if you did that with actual ingame textures Regardless! It's still pretty damn awesome! Good job both of you! @GhostThruster @Sellenisko

New animations you say? I'm intriqued! Seriously can't wait for it to be released. A year?! You should upload it now, and update it later! I need this in my life! At least with the new texture!

And for a secret modding project *shush*...

 

[Neruvatar]

So. this was my Balrog with inagem textures. Now its time to move the scale - here is preparing balrog with extra textures - meet the Balrog 2.0

It's been a year... =) heheh. I'm looking forward to this!

 

[YubelHaouJudai]

The Model and animation are greats but the problem is how Balrog should alternate walk is look a little weird... no offense.

 

[ThomasEddington]

One thing I noticed - in the game, you cannot select its flying form, but can select its ground form. When using it in game, the only way to select the flying form is to select with a box, and it won't respond to direct clicks. Seems its flying morphed form cannot be selected - this should be fixed.
Edited: 8/8/22, because I noticed that I made a typo. And I can see that it still has not been updated/fixed.

 

[FranzLiszt]

someone should make a HD version of this!

 

[Gumberbunbder]

By my timbers this looks good! I love that you gave it a flying animation! Thank you very much!

 

[Legeon]

I hope this will get an icon soon. Nice work on that one .

 

[Phonk Enjoyer]

i like this