Audio Section

[Pyramidhe@d]

you know we could always put up a bounty system where we reward people who first report a stolen music. with reps i mean. that means we would have the mods as well as other users who will eagerly report when there is an incentive
and then the reported music will go to a separate, "reported" category
altho this does sound like a lot of work when people could find music for themselves using, as DVO said, google

 

[Joss]

But, if people developed soundsets, thats when the section could come in handy.

 

[supertoinkz]

well Pyra, there can be many cheats that can be exploited like this:

the manwantsrep created an account on another music site then uploaded there the music he saw here and report the music from here to be stolen.

I also agree we need this section, but it will make chaos at moderating.

 

[Hakeem]

the manwantsrep created an account on another music site then uploaded there the music he saw here and report the music from here to be stolen.

The dates alone would give them away.

 

[supertoinkz]

didn't thought about that

 

[Pyramidhe@d]

not to mention people wont be able to "farm" rep that way because the offending account would have been banned. this will get them a chance to report twice? and of course there is suspicion if one person keeps on reporting things very fast etc

 

[Lost_Cloud]

wow alot of people have been replying =-O i luv the ideas were making good progress and btw i wouldn't ban the person but just ban them from submitting music again or they can send an apology saying they won't do it again if not held up then perm ban

=) and all the ideas are great plus it would be easy for some to moderate as were only expecting sounds and music fitting to the subject of warcraft so we'll be hearing more sort of custom sounding music without vocals than katy perry singing i kissed a girl.... =P discuss some more =)

 

[Mulgrim]

Sound Resource Section (read on)

i'd like to bring this up again

I know there were people against it, because of exports mainly, but they wouldn't be hard to recognize, I mean we have a Music Contest, how are we positive no one is using exports from somewhere else (I'm not accusing anyone of anything...), this would attract more people to join and be more active imo, there'd mods, and categories for different themes, unit sounsets, building sounsets, attachment sounsets, spell sounsets, background music, etc. besides, having another resource section makes things exciting. If we have a contest, why not a resource section? there's more reasons to have it than not to, it's a chance for hive users to share their musical work.

P.S. if it really happens, I'd agree to adding an mp3 player to where the resource is to avoid downloading delays and easier feedback.

 

[Ralle]

I am actually thinking about a multi section. A section where I would simply write modules to support different file formats.
This would allow easy expansion to other file types and multiple files per resource.

 

[Sephalo]

Extra place for music/sounds

I was wondering if it's a good idea to in addition to the Models, Skins, Icons, Spells, Tools and Packs sections also a Music/Sounds section. I think the Sound/Music Art subforum is still small, but would have enough stuff to post in a section like I proposed here. Also this would give people the opportunities to also work on spell sounds like the sound of a missile on impact.
If there was something like that I would personally try to make multiple music pieces to post in there that would fit in the wc3 gameplay so maybe RPG makes (because of filesize has to be singleplayer map I suppose) can download them and use them.

What do you think of this idea?

 

[Deleted member 157129]

Wait, are you saying that you would like to make music and sound effects, but ONLY if you're given your own section? XD

 

[Sephalo]

Wait, are you saying that you would like to make music and sound effects, but ONLY if you're given your own section? XD

Nope that's not what I am saying.
But there is a part of truth in it. I like making music and I like trying to make wc3 themed music, but it is always great to get something back for it in return. In this case I'm talking about respect. A performer would never perform withoud audience, it gives him the (deserved?) respect.
I'm sure that if there would be a music/sound section I would feel a higher drive to produce something so I can put it in there. Now I can only post it in the subforum with not that many viewers and no real opportunity to share your work with others. You can ofc. post your stuff in there to share it with others, but that's different then what I mean. Imagine the model section to be in a forum style and you had to check every post to see if a model is great. That wouldn't work would it?

So basically I'm saying if there would be a resource section for sounds and music, I think people will get more stimulated to work on stuff like that because that is what would happen to me. And I would really like to contribute to this site for once with a resource because I can't skin, can't model, can't trigger good enough and my map will still take long to be finished. With music (which is my education and soon profession) I can contribute to this site with (hopefully good) resources and I hope I can make people happy with the stuff I make.

EDIT: I am sure there are people in here that never checked the music subforum yet. Well if there was a music resource section they would earlier give it a look and might get inspired by other people's work. In that case we might get a whole new 'community' of musicmakers or soundmakers to the resource section rather then just the texturers, modelers and triggerers.

 

[Deleted member 157129]

I disagree, 'cause frankly I wouldn't mind if all the other categories also were sub-forums. You'd just need to define some guidelines as to how to build up a post, so that you wouldn't get posts that contain only a file and no descriptions. I'd go that way, rather than to implement all resources into galleries (that's essentially what they are now.. and then imagine a music gallery, you would need to make a preview image for the music too, else it'd just be text, and that's just like a forum).

 

[WherewolfTherewolf]

Well a method of sorting different music into things like genre's and uses would be good, doesn't mean it has to be a gallery but say you were looking for some tracks and you want something that would fit your map, so you search "Metal" and a list of metal songs comes up.

 

[Sephalo]

Well a method of sorting different music into things like genre's and uses would be good, doesn't mean it has to be a gallery but say you were looking for some tracks and you want something that would fit your map, so you search "Metal" and a list of metal songs comes up.

Yeah exactly. Give people an opportunity to search through music files. Maybe something like the jass functions page. A big list with stuff withoud images but only files. So no random chat about music, just music resources in there.

 

[TheDivineBoss]

If you are a fanatical sound creator, then just create a gallery-like thread in the old Sound / Music Art section.

If not, then don't do it.

 

[Sephalo]

I think you get my point but don't want to get it.
If we would only have those self-made galerry-like threads for models/skins etc, then that would be very unhandy for people looking through them. That's all that I'm saying.

 

[Linaze]

There are more artists than musicians, though.

 

[Sephalo]

There are more artists than musicians, though.

Yes that is totally true ofc. But the Jass functions section is also quite small. And at first there will come new things quite slowly but after a month or 3 I think we can get a nice music/sound section already.

 

[WherewolfTherewolf]

There's actually many more musicians then it seems here. In the Music forum it seems like for a while it was only me, dudespirit and pyritie putting out anything, but when the Music Contest got started there came MANY more people then I though would, and even getting some people who haven't put anything out in a while to join (like Samuraid). There's many musicians here, just most have them have stayed quiet.

 

[Sephalo]

There's actually many more musicians then it seems here. In the Music forum it seems like for a while it was only me, dudespirit and pyritie putting out anything, but when the Music Contest got started there came MANY more people then I though would, and even getting some people who haven't put anything out in a while to join (like Samuraid). There's many musicians here, just most have them have stayed quiet.

... And I believe the reason for that is mainly because people never really knew about the 'music community' in here until the Music Contest 'advertisement' was being placed on top of every page (the notice window). So dragging the music stuff to a certain attention worked out quite well already, but if we would get a music resource section this would only become better.

 

[Wazzz]

Mulgrim, nice idea, sound imports sure would be handy for those who have the map filesize to handle them, you have my support there, but only if the section is presented as Ralle has been thinking of doing. As Ralle says, this would allow easy expansion.

Ralle, do it do it do it do it!
...please
Would be great having a miscellaneous section

 

[Mulgrim]

i don't get it, so for example, when I download a model, i download the soundset, icons, etc?

 

[Wazzz]

Not quite. I think what Ralle is suggesting is that in this new section he's considering making, you can upload not just soundsets, but other miscellaneous items that don't fit anywhere else on the hive, like loading screens for example.

 

[WherewolfTherewolf]

Not quite. I think what Ralle is suggesting is that in this new section he's considering making, you can upload not just soundsets, but other miscellaneous items that don't fit anywhere else on the hive, like loading screens for example.

Eh, sounds like the chaos of SE in upload form - why would you upload loading screens in the same place you would load music? Also Loading screens formats are models thus they could logically go there.

Though I am all for a Sound/Music upload section - make sure that you give it enough categories that sound searching is idiot proof though

 

[leet.firefox]

Also Loading screens formats are models thus they could logically go there.

Are you thinking of campaign screens? I thought loading screens are .blp and models are .mdx? Aren't campaign screens already uploaded to the models section?

I'd like to see a sound resource section added on to the hive.

 

[Mulgrim]

Eh, sounds like the chaos of SE in upload form - why would you upload loading screens in the same place you would load music? Also Loading screens formats are models thus they could logically go there.

Though I am all for a Sound/Music upload section - make sure that you give it enough categories that sound searching is idiot proof though

so it's only logical to have a sound resource section rather than something that might be chaotic, either way we need somewhere, anywhere, to upload sound/musics and have it be searchable and moderated.

 

[WherewolfTherewolf]

Yeah finding music in the Music Section is pretty hard right now:
-some old spam
-the natural help questions that accompany any section
-No master thread of music

Really if your looking for music, unless your thread is at the top of the list, people will only be able to find TDG's and Samuraids since theirs is stickied.

 

[Alfagar]

Yeah, I agree that we need a sound section (even if it will be the least used section)

 

[Ralle]

I am planning on a new multi resource section which allows you to upload models, textures, icons and possibly also sounds.

 

[Sephalo]

Woot, that sounds really awesome!

 

[WherewolfTherewolf]

Hopefully if done right, I can also see something like that becoming a pain as you search for one thing and get something totally different. If we already have sections designated specifically for models, icons and skins, why not just add a music section similar to the jass one?

I've heard you bring up the Multi Resource thing multiple times and I'm still not sure exactly what your talking about. Do you mean like Packs which you already do for models and skins? And I also notice you lump in UI's with the other sorts of resources, how are you going to sort it so you get to the type of resource your looking for?

 

[Traxamillion]

Well for people like myself who make unit sound sets and cinematic voice overs it would be nice to have a section similar to the other resource sections. Therefore people can listen and download sound clips and use them in their maps.

 

[Sephalo]

Yeah agree.
I think there's nothing to lose.
But as Ralle said it might come so I'm happy to see that info

 

[Fanny.Shaver]

I could make a custom sound sets, even started a thread in music section, nobody was interested,

 

[Traxamillion]

Thats cause its in the music section..

 

[Ralle]

I will keep the different types of data stored in different tables in the database but the main view will be the mix of them. However searching for a specific type should not be a problem and when you get to it you realize it also has other things to offer because it is in a kind of "group" with other files.

 

[WherewolfTherewolf]

Ah, sort of like a Macro Pack section that includes more types of files

 

[Hakeem]

This is likely the biggest merge that has happened or ever will happen.

This has been brought up in at least 20 different threads. And I probably only got half of them.

This suggestion is about as old as time itself.

 

[WherewolfTherewolf]

So if this has been suggested so many times why is it that only recently someone actually got to doing something about it?

 

[Pyritie]

We've been busy with other, more important things

 

[Fanny.Shaver]

So? When is it starting? I've got a quite few sound sets already ready to be uploaded

 

[Pyritie]

Probably not for a while, ralle's got a whole bunch of other projects

 

[Crazed_seal2]

Music Resource Area

Sure we have the sound/music thing in the forums but why cant there be like a music area like Skins, models, spells, tools and Icons.
Music/Sound is a key area of fun/Enjoyment. A map may have good models and good skins and icons, but without sound/music its kinda bland...
So ya. I think we should add a music/sound section.
Do you?

 

[MGCǂSpectre]

No i think this is enough

http://www.hiveworkshop.com/forums/sound-music-art-290/

Musics are 3-4 MB a model is up to 200 KB, Ralle will need a wonder server if 1000 musiscs are uploaded.

 

[Miss_Foxy]

How about a Limited Number of Music per time?
Oh, and I wouldn't mind having this idea, but I don't know whether it'd be really possible considering the limited stuff we have...

 

[General Frank]

How about a Limited Number of Music per time?
Oh, and I wouldn't mind having this idea, but I don't know whether it'd be really possible considering the limited stuff we have...

It is nothing about any limits. It is a question about piracy and stuff. We do not want Hive to become an illegal sharing place. So no.

 

[Pyritie]

This isn't a new idea

*mass merges*

 

[Miss_Foxy]

Okay, General Frank

 

[Tleno]

People, why do we need a whole section if you can just make a thread where you can show your own music/sound files if you really want?