I think you have difficulties to understand the term national state.
A nation is a homogeneous society with its language, culture, history.
Do you think it is okay that the Chinese are replacing the Tibetans and abolish the Tibetian culture?
Would you say that the Tibetians should not defend themselves because they have a similar DNA like the Chinese? That it would shows that they want to be superior?
As a reminder: It is not a coincidence that the french revolution was about democracy and the nation. The greek term Demos means folk.
People have different legal philosophies because of their culture and history, you cannot put them together in a single country and
expect that they come to an agreement about law.
All multiethnic countries in europe broke appart when there was no
monarch or dictator.
This is the reason why the EU in its current form is a danger for democracy and why people want to stick to sovereign national states.
My goodness, I don't honestly know what I said that offended you so much.
I think you have difficulties to understand the term national state.
I don't. And I would urge you to not presume too much upon others in a debate, presuming what the other person is saying
besides the actual words he's speaking is often what leads to unnecessary complications during a debate. People are generally
prideful, and easily offended when they feel that you are "putting words in their mouth" or "misrepresenting their argument."
And this is what I feel that you are doing here, I never said that I think, and I quote:
it is okay that the Chinese are replacing the Tibetans and abolish the Tibetian culture.
And this is completely irrelevant to the point I was trying to make. In that particular scenario I do not
have the data or information required to make a solidified opinion. The way you phrase it make it sound
like I wouldn't think it's okay, but in order to properly have an opinion about it, I would have to research
it more.
All multiethnic countries in europe broke appart when there was no monarch or dictator.
This is not true, Norway, my country, is a very good example of that. In Norway there are people of many
different ethnic origins living side-by-side, and no matter where you're from you are free to practice your
own culture around you, as long as parts of that culture doesn't directly oppose the laws of the country.
There are mosques for Muslims, there are churches for Christians and there are temples for hindus and
Buddhists, and many other examples of multiculturalism. And since we were talking about the Roman
empire, let me remind you that this empire was not ruled by a monarch for the longest time, and the
Roman empire was one of the largest and most successful multicultural empires this world has ever
seen. All this is completely beside the point, however, at it would seem you have successfully baited
me into starting this discussion with you.
You took my argument, which was that I think the "reasoning" for Brexit, the way I've heard it from
most people I've talked to, is bad. (Reasoning being that they wanted out of EU because they feared
immigrants would come to their country and steal their jobs/culture) And you misrepresented it by
mockery into some sort of ignorant slander toward people who are respectfully,
even self-righteously, defending their own culture. So, let me elaborate on what I meant:
The very argument "They come to our country and steal our jobs" is defeated by itself, it's contradictory.
Not a single person can "come" to the country uninvited and furthermore thus "steal" someone's job unless
the government actually secures this opportunity for them. Now I am not entirely aware of how the process
works in detail in Britain, but if it is something similar to how it works in Norway, then I can say this:
They are invited to the country by the government, and they are given visas to work by the government.
If anyone is to be blamed for "foreigners stealing your jobs" it is the government, not the poor people who
come from a depraved and sometimes war-ravaged country seeking fortune and happiness.
Because why wouldn't they? Don't they deserve happiness? They deserve it
far more than me or you, frankly, coming from their background, seeing what they have
seen. I am despised by people who sit in their homes wishing they had a bigger TV, but
they can't afford one because they are currently unemployed, but don't otherwise suffer
in any meaningful ways. And then they blame the "fucking immigrants" for having stolen
their jobs when these very same "fucking immigrants" would consider it a blessing to be
in the same position that they are currently in themselves.