Custom Race: Order of the Eternal Flame 1.2

[Wa666r]

Definitely a lot of improvements going on between your releases.
You have a lot of interesting concepts for the faction along with a nice custom melee map.
The faction has a cool theme going on and obviously has a lot of thought going into it. Overall, feels like a nice high quality race.
I particularly liked the idea of the Phoenix unit starting as an egg, but you can make some trigger magic to make it still have a rally point after reviving.
The extensive descriptions of your faction on the hive is also a great plus, I know those take a while to make.

I do, however, notice that you're a little too eager to release them. It does not seem like you bug test and polish them enough before release.
In just a few minutes I found a lot of little bugs, but with so many it accumulated into a bigger problem.

Some bugs:

• Altar's model selection is bugged when its summoning or reviving heroes. You can only select it through box clicking.
• Zealot uses male voice and male names for a female character.
• Minstrel as well.
• Illusions can also be revived through the Blessing of the Phoenix. Including Minstrel's Fooling Flame. So you get free units for nothing.
• Pathfinder dwarf voice is very off-putting. Not sure if that was intentional.
• Big bug with Pathfinders is that newly trained Pathfinders do not get improved Divulging Fire, only those already on the battlefield when researched.- Minstrel's Healing Song (reverse starfall) still has the same starfall effect. This is a long standing bug that reforged introduced and never fixed. You cant change the effect. I'd suggest going for a custom Tranquility.
• Zealots Pheonix Beam stuns, cancelling channeling allies. Maybe base this ability off of Healing Wave instead or something.
• Zealots Strike and Spiral both are hotkeyed to Q.
• Sky Raider also uses Dwarf voicelines.
• Sky Raider Drone Swarm can be used without Aggressors Deck upgrade.
• Firebrand Cannon does not attack trees despite the tooltip stating otherwise.
• Ignite Spirit has no visual effect.
• The two casters get an buff icon for First Life with a picture of samwise.
• Fire Keeper has hero glow.
• Firehawk has no portrait.
• Scorch Magic tooltip bugged. Cuts off at the forth effect.

• Personal gripe but both the Minstrels and Zealots ults are plane boring. In Minstrel's case it Reincarnate but less useful because shes a ranged support hero.
• All Zealots ability start with Phoenix - Personal gripe with the naming.

There's definitely more bugs. I just suggest you take your time and iron out the little things. And maybe add the 4th hero you want to add as I see in your future plan.
Also, take a look at your tooltip for the Ballistae here on the Hive.

 

[CollectorofStoriesUntold]

Definitely a lot of improvements going on between your releases.
You have a lot of interesting concepts for the faction along with a nice custom melee map.
The faction has a cool theme going on and obviously has a lot of thought going into it. Overall, feels like a nice high quality race.
I particularly liked the idea of the Phoenix unit starting as an egg, but you can make some trigger magic to make it still have a rally point after reviving.
The extensive descriptions of your faction on the hive is also a great plus, I know those take a while to make.

I do, however, notice that you're a little too eager to release them. It does not seem like you bug test and polish them enough before release.
In just a few minutes I found a lot of little bugs, but with so many it accumulated into a bigger problem.

Some bugs:

• Altar's model selection is bugged when its summoning or reviving heroes. You can only select it through box clicking.
• Zealot uses male voice and male names for a female character.
• Minstrel as well.
• Illusions can also be revived through the Blessing of the Phoenix. Including Minstrel's Fooling Flame. So you get free units for nothing.
• Pathfinder dwarf voice is very off-putting. Not sure if that was intentional.
• Big bug with Pathfinders is that newly trained Pathfinders do not get improved Divulging Fire, only those already on the battlefield when researched.- Minstrel's Healing Song (reverse starfall) still has the same starfall effect. This is a long standing bug that reforged introduced and never fixed. You cant change the effect. I'd suggest going for a custom Tranquility.
• Zealots Pheonix Beam stuns, cancelling channeling allies. Maybe base this ability off of Healing Wave instead or something.
• Zealots Strike and Spiral both are hotkeyed to Q.
• Sky Raider also uses Dwarf voicelines.
• Sky Raider Drone Swarm can be used without Aggressors Deck upgrade.
• Firebrand Cannon does not attack trees despite the tooltip stating otherwise.
• Ignite Spirit has no visual effect.
• The two casters get an buff icon for First Life with a picture of samwise.
• Fire Keeper has hero glow.
• Firehawk has no portrait.
• Scorch Magic tooltip bugged. Cuts off at the forth effect.

• Personal gripe but both the Minstrels and Zealots ults are plane boring. In Minstrel's case it Reincarnate but less useful because shes a ranged support hero.
• All Zealots ability start with Phoenix - Personal gripe with the naming.

There's definitely more bugs. I just suggest you take your time and iron out the little things. And maybe add the 4th hero you want to add as I see in your future plan.
Also, take a look at your tooltip for the Ballistae here on the Hive.

Thank you for taking the time to review my race. I'll look into making these fixes when I get the chance. My eagerness to release them comes from the way I usually start a race. I'll get a burst of insperation and bust out about 70% of the work for it over 2 or 3 days, then pick at it over the course of a couple months till my motivation wears off.

Understandable. Keep at it though you've been improving from faction to faction. Also, if you're interested theres a discord group where a bunch of us factioneers bounce ides of each other and discuss faction stuff.

Sounds interesting. Send me a link.

 

[Wa666r]

Thank you for taking the time to review my race. I'll look into making these fixes when I get the chance. My eagerness to release them comes from the way I usually start a race. I'll get a burst of insperation and bust out about 70% of the work for it over 2 or 3 days, then pick at it over the course of a couple months till my motivation wears off.

Understandable. Keep at it though you've been improving from faction to faction. Also, if you're interested theres a discord group where a bunch of us factioneers bounce ides of each other and discuss faction stuff.

 

[deepstrasz]

Fire Keeper has hero glow.
The Zealot hero can choose the ultimate from level 1.
Abilities could be QWERTY hotkeyed.
Using the molten trail ability of the Phoenix crashed the map.

Other than that, it's a nice altered melee map.

Approved.

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[Wa666r]

Played the recent update. Great job. I think it's a unique approach to a blood elf-like faction.

There were a few small issues I found. The Matriarch hero had a space at the start of the tooltip, and have 3 whole passives in her kit is not the best decision. I think all heroes need at least 2 active abilities. That and two of the 4 abilities were pretty much vanilla abilities.
That Minstrel hero that makes illusion has her 2nd ability and ult trigger each-other's cooldowns. Also, the 2nd ability tooltips states different effects from what it is when the ability is researched.
The archer hero's ult icon is Samwise.
On the topic of heroes, I was able to have all 4 in one match.

The Caretakers collision is all wack, not being to select them when they are harvesting aside from box clicking. Also, the Goldmine does not disappear when empty.
You have the Anchor multiboard show up regardless of the player's race.
The Flare upgrade does not unlock the Flare Tower's Flare ability.

Also, the map itself is interesting with all the new creeps, skins, and tileset changes.

Also, Also, I like the fact that you lay out the whole tech tree in the description. I know it takes a lot of work, but it really shows pride in your work.

Overall, its a great and creative faction. Keep up the good work.

 

[CollectorofStoriesUntold]

Played the recent update. Great job. I think it's a unique approach to a blood elf-like faction.

There were a few small issues I found. The Matriarch hero had a space at the start of the tooltip, and have 3 whole passives in her kit is not the best decision. I think all heroes need at least 2 active abilities. That and two of the 4 abilities were pretty much vanilla abilities.
That Minstrel hero that makes illusion has her 2nd ability and ult trigger each-other's cooldowns. Also, the 2nd ability tooltips states different effects from what it is when the ability is researched.
The archer hero's ult icon is Samwise.
On the topic of heroes, I was able to have all 4 in one match.

The Caretakers collision is all wack, not being to select them when they are harvesting aside from box clicking. Also, the Goldmine does not disappear when empty.
You have the Anchor multiboard show up regardless of the player's race.
The Flare upgrade does not unlock the Flare Tower's Flare ability.

Also, the map itself is interesting with all the new creeps, skins, and tileset changes.

Also, Also, I like the fact that you lay out the whole tech tree in the description. I know it takes a lot of work, but it really shows pride in your work.

Overall, its a great and creative faction. Keep up the good work.

I'll be addressing the Bugs next update.

Explaining some the of the things you pointed out.

• Devoution aura is a place holder as i could not think of a third ability and I wanted to release an update that fix most of the bugs from last time
• Flare upgrade worked during the last version. I'll have to make sure to check requirements every time the game updates.
• Caretake collision might be from my adding of the gold work animation. I'll see about getting some one to look at it.
• I allowed the Anchor multiboard to show up regardless of the player's race so when undead players posses a caretaker they could make use of the gates. I forgot that I made the worker mechanical when working on it.

Addressing the custom Tile set and creeps. I believe when making a race one should change the environment to compliment the race. A factions units and abilities tell a story and so should the map.

Thanks for reviewing one again. Keep up the good work aswell.