Zephyr Challenge #3 - Dual Effect

[PurplePoot]

Zephyr Challenge #3

Contest Theme: Dual Effect Each contestant must create a spell that alternates between two effects, depending on a condition. Examples: Death Coil: A coil of death that can heal a friendly Undead unit for hit points, or deal half damage to an enemy living unit. Holy Light: A holy light that can heal a friendly living unit or deal half damage to an enemy Undead unit. A spell affected by Day/Night

Contest Rules And Conditions

1. No spell may violate any site rules.
   
2. Follow the explanation of the theme, not the direct theme word, because the theme word may be interpreted in ways not intended.
   
3. Either GUI or JASS may be used. If you use any 3rd party tools, say what they are, and if they're obscure, provide a link!
   3rd party tool examples:
   • WEWarlock
   • Grimoire (and/or JassNewGenPack)
   • WE Unlimited
   • WE Helper
4. You may use utilities (that do small jobs), but no large systems (that do most of the work for you).
   Example of utilities:
   • Local Handle Variables
   • CSCache
   • Armor Detection System
   • Vector System
   
   Example of large systems:
   • Caster System
   • Particle System
   • Jump System
   • Knockback Functions
5. No custom imports are allowed, except for the "dummy.mdx" file (a blank model with the "origin" attachment point, and vertical rotation. By iNfraNe, attached at the bottom of the post)
   
6. The spell must have been started after the contest started.
   
7. WIPs are encouraged to increase the activity of the contest.
   
8. Attach your submission to a post in this thread when you're finished (your latest submission will be the one considered your final submission, unless you leave the contest). Submissions after the deadline will be disqualified, so be sure not to edit your submission too late!
   
9. Judges may not participate in the contest.

Contest Judging And Voting

• 50 % of the winner shall be determined by the contest's appointed judge(s), using the following formula
  1. Your spell can earn a maximum of 40 points.
  2. Originality (5 points) - is your spell original, or is it just another chip off the old block?
  3. Triggering/Coding (15 points) - Everything related to the spell's triggering/coding. Leaks, lag, efficiency, etc.
  4. Visual (5 points) - Visual effects associated to the spell (does it look nice, but not overboard?)
  5. Overall Aspect (10 points) - the spell's actual effect (is it creative, and not too complicated?), and how well the spell fits the warcraft (cinematic spells? FPS spells? no thanks. Try to stick to ones that work out nicely in an RTS)
  6. Polish (5 points) - Does the icon fit the spell? Does the effect fit the spell's theme? Is the tooltip descriptive, and without spelling errors or too many clashing colors?
• 50 % of the winner shall be determined by the results of a public poll.

Prizes And Winnings

First Place: 40 Reputation points and a special award icon. Second Place: 20 Reputation points. Third Place: 10 Reputation points.

Contest Duration And Deadline

Each spell must be complete and submitted 4 weeks after the contest begins.
The contest shall begin on 14 August 2007 and conclude on

11 September 2007 0:00 AM, (GMT).

 

[Kixer]

Alright dual effects...
Perfect timing for this contest, i should actualy be able to finish one of once!

 

[PurgeandFire]

Alright! I'll join. I just need an idea...

 

[Sacrimo]

Something that won't take all month to do. I am pretty bad with the spell scripting with GUI, and i'm still learning Jass, meh idk, im in!

 

[DiscipleOfLife]

Lol its the 14th of August right now . Count me in.

 

[DesKaladA]

Ok i'll take a wack at it
Also can we import icons

 

[Fulla]

Wow, another great theme, this time ill have to join

 

[Pyritie]

I'd join, but I'm on holiday at that time. Sounds like a good theme idea though.

 

[DesKaladA]

Te He He
My spell is almost done
All i need to do is add the sfx
and make the readme
and i am still wating on hereing back on imported icons
it would be soo much more fun

 

[wyrmlord]

Looks like I'm back just in time for another spell competition. You should be able to count me in on this.

Also can we import icons

I'm not entirely sure they're allowed as why would you need a custom icon for a spell? The icon doesn't influence the spell in any way, it's really just there for looks. I can't provide you with a definite answer because I don't know the actual rules, though my guess is that they're either discouraged or not permitted.

 

[Pyritie]

Welcome back, wyrmlord. I'm expecting a good result from you.

 

[Steel_Cold]

Count me in

 

[Mini-Me]

No custom imports are allowed, except for the "dummy.mdx" file (a blank model with the "origin" attachment point, and vertical rotation. By iNfraNe, attached at the bottom of the post)

How about we all start by reading the rules, shall we? Lets save this thread from spam.

 

[wyrmlord]

can we use vJASS?

Either GUI or JASS may be used. If you use any 3rd party tools, say what they are, and if they're obscure, provide a link!
Grimoire (and/or JassNewGenPack)

Yes, I believe you're able to use vJASS as long as you state that it's used and possibly post a link to it.

 

[Fulla]

Could you elaborate more on WEHelper not working/not being allowed?
I have the latest patch and it works fine, I dont understand this.

 

[DesKaladA]

Fine no icnos
Heres V1.00 of my spell
the hero level effects the outcome of the spell
so you get somting different each level
hope you like it

 

[PurplePoot]

Could you elaborate more on WEHelper not working/not being allowed?
I have the latest patch and it works fine, I dont understand this.

The last version I know of existing was v1.7, which only works on (1.20e?), and not 1.21.

I'll update the rules if there actually IS a new version that works for 1.21, but I don't think there is.

In other news, you don't need a link to any of the standard editors (grimoire, WEU, WEHelper (if there actually is a new version))

 

[HappyTauren]

When activated during night, it calls shadow spirits who intend to destroy all enemies in a small range. If activated during day, shadow spirits will be protective towards their allies.

A WIP INFO

 

[Jacek]

Same for me, wehelper works nicely...

 

[MoodestMoo5]

I am in

 

[DesKaladA]

um... did anyone play my map yet?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!

 

[PurgeandFire]

Hm... I'm thinking I'm going to use mine depending on Health or Mana...

 

[PurplePoot]

Same for me, wehelper works nicely...

Aight then, could you please upload it here? (to your next post) Wc3c hasn't been working for me recently, so I can't confirm that there's a new version that works with 1.21

And DesKaladA, the deadline is a month, meaning that that's when me (and any other judges, if there will be any) will be testing/reviewing spells. It's best to spend a little more time on your spell than a day or two, when you have this much time given to you.

 

[Daelin]

I would like to remind everyone that the theme of the spell is "Dual Effect", not "Multi effect". We are talking about a spell which acts differently in TWO different situations. Not to mention that too many alternatives can actually turn the ability chaotic, far too hard to master and control. So before taking taetra-lateral (four sides to be more exact) spells into consideration, pay extra attention to theme.

Tip (for spell idea): Considering that the two effects are part of the same spell, make sure they are somehow related with the condition (which again, you should try not to make far too complex) and even between them.

I am not part of the jury, so the information I present here may or may not affect the actual jury mark. I'm just making some common-sense comments.

-Mihai

 

[Steel_Cold]

Heres my WIP Info:

Name: Fracture Blade
Based off of: Storm Bolt

Description: This sword is extremly powerful, and has a mind of its own. It favors the powerful.

When used, if the target has lower than 20% health, then it will convert his life to the caster and the target will be brought to 1% health.

However, if the effect starts up and the caster has less health then the target, then the caster will be banished for 10 seconds.

 

[PurplePoot]

Update: it appears that there has indeed been an update of WEHelper that allows it to work on 1.21 - ~fixed rules~

In other news, steel, you may want to have the two effects a little more coherent (they seem a bit random - loss of life of the target vs banishment of the caster?)

 

[DiscipleOfLife]

WIP Info

Open Grounds

Cracks the ground wide open either causing lava to burst out of it or surrounding waters to stream into it.

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In other words when used on dry ground creates some sort of a volcano and when used on water creates a current that drags enemies towards the center of it.

For now I have only finished making a special effect that is shown right before the spells real effect starts. (its not a custom model, but fifty spell steal -missiles on top of each other kekeke)
Btw gl to other contestants, you will need it

 

[Daelin]

For now I have only finished making a special effect that is shown right before the spells real effect starts. (its not a custom model, but fifty spell steal -missiles on top of each other kekeke)

Good for creativity, bad for spell efficiency. Such an effect goes much better if generated with particles.

-Mihai

 

[Pyritie]

For now I have only finished making a special effect that is shown right before the spells real effect starts. (its not a custom model, but fifty spell steal -missiles on top of each other kekeke)
Btw gl to other contestants, you will need it

Couldn't you just use the regular firelord's volcano spell thingy? With a dummy caster?

 

[DiscipleOfLife]

Couldn't you just use the regular firelord's volcano spell thingy? With a dummy caster?

I have decided to resist that solution even though it sounds like the perfect way to showcase creativity

 

[NovaBlade]

Does the spell have to be multi-instancable? I have an idea for a crazy spell, but it will be really hard to make multi-instancable...

 

[Daelin]

It doesn't HAVE to be MUI... if it were like that, GUI coders would be rejected from the contest (except for those developing very simple spells which again, would not stand a chance to other more advanced coders). So yeah, not-being-MUI may affect the 'coding' grade (I am not part of the jury so I don't know anything for certain) but I say you give it a try! You have nothing to lose! Only some experience to acquire, and get some constructive observations.

-Mihai

 

[NovaBlade]

cool!

 

[PurplePoot]

As daelin speculated, MUI will be counted a bit in the Coding grade, yes, but only a point or so. However, try to atleast make it MPI (which shouldn't be hard, even with GUI) to maybe lose max 1 point from being not MUI. Oh, also, don't copy your trigger 12 times to make it MPI - that sort of messy coding would lose your more points than you would from just not making it MPI/MUI in the first place.

Guide:
MUI = Multi-Unit Instanceable
MPI = Multi-Player Instanceable

 

[Pyritie]

Why does everyone think MUI in GUI is hard? It's very simple. Just a small sprinkling of locals and you're done.

 

[PurplePoot]

Why does everyone think MUI in GUI is hard? It's very simple. Just a small sprinkling of locals and you're done.

Well, first, try that with a more complicated spell, like a projectile

Also, locals are technically JASS

 

[NovaBlade]

ya, this spell isn't just some small little thing. In fact, i dont think ill be able to get it done in time (but im trying). The idea behind this spell is you cast it on a unit, and then that unit is blessed if its an allie, or cursed if its an enemy. then theres all sorts of things that can happen to it randomly for its blessing or curse. its really difficutl to make actually because of eveyrthing im trying to do.

 

[Pyritie]

Well, first, try that with a more complicated spell, like a projectile

True, things with two triggers are much harder to do. But with one trigger, it's very simple.

EDIT: Why are the quote tags not working?

 

[NearbyHermit]

Here is my spell
Name:Good/Dark Side
Mana cost:15
Cooldown:5 seconds
Based on:Dark Conversion(Malganis,Fast)
Casting Time:5 seconds
Synergy:Casts on enemy peasants to steal them and them re-cast on them to transform them into Holy Men.
Holy Man
Damage 24-29
Hp:450
Armor Medium:2
Tooltip:
Casts an intense beam of light on an allied human unit,transforming the unit into a Holy Man.In addition if casted on an enemy unit,the light dim's and becomes negative,on impact gaining the ownership of a level 1 human unit.

 

[PurplePoot]

You put [quote]xxx[quote] instead of [quote]xxx[/quote], pyritie

Interesting, NearbyHermit, but don't forget that there are no imports allowed.

 

[Pyritie]

Oh, I didn't see that the slash got missed out. Fixed.

 

[NearbyHermit]

Ok so il use the dark summoning icon then

 

[Bobo_The_Kodo]

I'm in

 

[Dil999]

Same.

 

[Sacrimo]

Summons builders of Neon or Oblivion when casted. Summons builders of Neon when on blessed grasses of Uther. But, if casted on corrupted lands of Hades, you will get builders of Oblivion. After the builders are summoned, they will automaticly build a base for you. They manage the town themselves by enforcing your law, controling the workers, and more. You may only use this spell twice. Once on the blessed grasses of Uther, and once on the Corrupted lands of Hades.

 

[Pyritie]

I'm guessing you have to make it be able to fit anyone's needs. So I'd say if on blight it summons a necropolis, and if on grass it summons a tree of life or something.

 

[Sacrimo]

Yes I am going to do that, I think I might try to Jass this up.

 

[HINDYhat]

I'll try this.

 

[Eleandor]

I'm in.

 

[DotaShadowstar]

m'in