Your Political Profile

[Rui]

... not caring about them makes you feel bad

Does it? I think not.

doing good deeds makes you feel good.

Exactly, makes you feel good. Then again, «good deeds» is subjective.

 

[TwistedImage]

Does it? I think not.

I was using the canvas of the regular conscientious person. Ask anyone who thinks they genuinely care about others if they would feel bad were they to suddenly try to not care about others.

Exactly, makes you feel good.

Me? No.

Then again, «good deeds» is subjective.

That's part of my point.

 

[Magtheridon96]

Everyone is ultimately egocentric. What differs is how they express it.

I agree 100%.
Tank-Commander and I were discussing this yesterday in the Chat. C=

 

[HFR]

I agree 100%.
Tank-Commander and I were discussing this yesterday in the Chat. C=

This invalidates your post.

 

[Hoops]

Everyone is ultimately egocentric. What differs is how they express it.

You care about other people because not caring about them makes you feel bad; conversely, doing good deeds makes you feel good.

Caring about other people isn't only doing good deeds. And even so, not all good deeds are done for selfish reasons. It doesn't need to be this or that. It can be many things.
Sure helping out people in need is rewarding. It should be rewarding. That doesn't mean it's the sole reason we do it.

 

[TwistedImage]

Why do you all put words in my mouth? It was an example. I didn't say x is exclusively y.

 

[Hoops]

You pretty much did.
You're saying the only reason we do good deeds is to feel better about ourselves. (At least you sound that way, sorry if I'm misunderstanding.)
It's not. It really isn't.
Maybe to some degree, but feeling good about doing good things isn't a bad thing, and it doesn't make you "ultimately egocentric."

Also, I'll emphasize this:

Caring about other people isn't only doing good deeds.

 

[TwistedImage]

It's not. It really isn't.

Do tell.

Also, the part you felt it necessary to emphasise is putting words in my mouth. I never ever said caring about people is only doing good deeds.

 

[Hoops]

Do tell.

I did in the post you quoted and the one before that.

Also, the part you felt it necessary to emphasise is putting words in my mouth. I never ever said caring about people is only doing good deeds.

You never said the contrary either, hence the emphasis.

 

[TwistedImage]

The implication is that I mean everything I don't outright say I don't mean? That's broken logic and you know it.

 

[Joe-black-5]

Rui! you're like 16! the guy is talking from experience DX

 

[Instant Ramen]

I believe in individual freedoms, de jure property rights and equality before the law. This technically makes me an AnCap, although I don't really care what label I have on me.

 

[ManYouAreEvil]

Seems pretty accurate to me.

 

[brad.dude03]

I believe in individual freedoms, de jure property rights and equality before the law. This technically makes me an AnCap, although I don't really care what label I have on me.

Well look at you.

Make of this what you will. I don't self-identify as an anarchist/libertarian/whateverthefuck, because a lot of those ideas are fucking retarded, but I'm all for personal freedom. Economically, I'm your typical liberal.

 

[Rui]

Brad! =') thanks so much for posting. Tried the political spectrum?

 

[brad.dude03]

Yep, pretty straight forward. About the same mark on the grid with the following:
Extreme non-interventionalist, extreme cultural liberal.

 

[Instant Ramen]

Yep, pretty straight forward. About the same mark on the grid with the following:
Extreme non-interventionalist, extreme cultural liberal.

Liberal as in the classical sense?

 

[brad.dude03]

Liberal as in the classical sense?

No, that's rather conservative by today's standards and I am anything but.

 

[Ash]

My stance is already on the lovely graph, but I consider my own ideals to lay closest to that of a Rothbardian Libertarian.

EDIT: WHOOPS MEANT TO CLICK GO ADVANCED SO I POSTED THIS A LITTLE EARLY. Just doing the political spectrum quiz now. >_>

EDIT EDIT: Here you go, political spectrum results to boot:

 

[Rui]

I'll update your result. That graph you linked was supposed to contain political spectrum results only.

EDIT: Update!
Political spectrum results only

_HL

 

[Ash]

Aha. My bad. Results aren't different enough to be considered significant, really, but fo sure.

 

[Nestharus]

;o ;o

 

[Rui]

Updated my post! I finally figured out how to manipulate the image so I shouldn't need to use their buggy editor anymore.
I removed Pope Benedict XVI since it cluttered Magtheridon96's result, and I wanted to protrude users in this graph. By now, you've probably figured names that come with P are known people (public/persona/personality).

Regarding the Communism being left liberal oriented, I found this image.

Wikipedia image

 

[Ash]

That's a different kind of measure, Rui. While the Y axis is just flipped, it seems to me as if the X is a different kind of span to the Political Spectrum + Political Compass tests.

 

[Boris_Spider]

So, how am I a pacifist when I play games like this and BF3 regularly?

I've also declared an all-out war on mosquitoes. I WILL KILL THEM ALL, the hell with any consequences to the food chain...

//\\^^//\\

 

[TwistedImage]

FYI, proper communism is actually pretty much where anarchism is, except a bit further down.

The "communism" you put there is Stalinism or Maoism, which is in no way reminiscent of Marxism at all.

 

[Hakeem]

It's like asking an obese kid if he likes candy.

Or sitting two lions and a lamb down to vote on dinner.

People [...] should be taught discipline and they should be happy with they have.

And how do you expect to teach them that while a government stands over them to protect and serve them? What better way to alleviate the burden of responsibility? How comfortable has your life been knowing that your government is keeping you safe from all kinds of peril at the hands of other people, and never questioning that you might be in any danger due to its incompetence?

All roads lead to anarchy.

Doing what's 'right' just takes us back to the Dark ages of religion.

You mean those ones we never actually got out of? We just advanced technologically, is all.

The implication is that I mean everything I don't outright say I don't mean? That's broken logic and you know it.

Gee none of us were going to figure that one out until you said it.

Everyone is ultimately egocentric.

Well obviously. The opposite of selfishness is self-destruction. Things that destroy themselves don't tend to exist because when they do, they destroy themselves. The question is what composes your "self." Case in point:

Lower right represent!

Obviously I am going to ally myself with like-minded people because I believe them to be more grounded than people who are less correct on things. You could think of it like an exclusive club. You could draw lines, or construct walls. You can do this on multiple levels, too. Family, friends, colleagues, co-workers. As Google puts it, your "circles."

There are those who believe human evolution has ended. Maybe it's the advances in medicine, maybe it's the advances in technology, maybe it's the advances in agriculture, or maybe it's just the plain fact that evolution takes millions of years and trying to see it happening on the basis of a human life span is necessarily wrong. Whatever the case, to say that we've been as intelligent as we are now for thousands of years is both accurate and inaccurate. In terms of our physiology, we haven't changed much, if at all, in so short a span of geologic time. On the other hand, what is intelligence? What causes us to be intelligent? Is it determined genetically? Or is it too complex of a neurological concept for the mere DNA that constructs the brain to control?

Drawing from the lessons we learn from feral children and those born deaf, of a human grown in a most unnatural way; unable to communicate with other humans, it seems fairly straight-forward to conclude that our ability to form the kinds of thoughts we do is rooted in the effect that complex, abstract language has on our neural circuitry. While all our brains have this capacity, without being raised to communicate with other intelligences, much as we may use our capacity to create tools in the wild to help us survive, there will be certain subjects we could never comprehend in a brain so developed. I am convinced that the girth of our intelligence is a collection of ideas that gradually arose as someone, somewhere, cognized the concept, and in an effort to communicate with others about it, created terminology to solidify the concept.

And that that intelligence is a concrete structure, apart from us, that exists in our ongoing communication.

And that each of us is a neuron within this vast structure.

And that the lines we draw to divide us slow the "thoughts" that this structure "thinks."

And that the only barrier to entry is the ability to communicate.

 

[Laiev]

 

[AntoMarc]

 

[TwistedImage]

And that the lines we draw to divide us slow the "thoughts" that this structure "thinks."

Evidently. But those lines exist, and there's scant little we can do about them, which is why I think your views on this are wishful thinking.

 

[Instant Ramen]

Anyways, here are my results. Some of the questions on the quiz were fairly loaded.

 

[takakenji]

Communist

 

[Ash]

Hm. I'm going to contact the makers of that quiz and see if I can get some compiled results from them. I want to do some factor analysis on it.

 

[Rui]

I was missing your posts, Hakeem.

Instant Ramen, you managed to be 0,5 more anarchic than Hakeem? Suspicious results there!

Updating my graph with the results posted!

 

[Instant Ramen]

I was missing your posts, Hakeem.

Instant Ramen, you managed to be 0,5 more anarchic than Hakeem? Suspicious results there!

Updating my graph with the results posted!

Well, the first time I did it, my result was 10, -10.

 

[gorillabull]

well this is fantastic i enjoy seeing the youths arguing about politics and the status quo maybe one day some of you will grow up to be great political leaders or even presidents. just remember if you are not from north korea then you really dont have any problems btw this is what i got im almost in the middle XD

 

[Instant Ramen]

maybe one day some of you will grow up to be great political leaders or even presidents.

Well, I sure hope I don't.

 

[gorillabull]

well im shure that we all have different perspectives but a position like that is hard to accomplish and should not be turned down

 

[TwistedImage]

just remember if you are not from north korea then you really dont have any problems

What if I'm from Syria?

 

[Joe-black-5]

What if I'm from Syria?

what about it? you're still not from North Korea.
Don't turn this thread into Middle eastern politics.

 

[TwistedImage]

Can't I make quips, now?

This is an oppressive regime!

OPPRESSIVE!

 

[Reaper51]

http://politicalcompass.org/facebook/pcgraphpng.php?ec=-4.00&soc=4.00

Mine^

 

[Instant Ramen]

well im shure that we all have different perspectives but a position like that is hard to accomplish and should not be turned down

Sorry to disappoint, but I personally would turn down such a position on principle.

 

[Ash]

This isn't so much a thread about current affairs as it is about your own abstract political standings. Remember dat, brosefs.

 

[Rui]

I'm interested in why Instant Ramen would refuse to be a politician.

Personally, I'm not sure if I would, but probably not. Maybe out of curiosity. However, when the members of a party have to have the same opinion as the leader and it's a scandal if they vote otherwise, I find this regime they call a democracy pretty suspicious.

 

[Instant Ramen]

I'm interested in why Instant Ramen would refuse to be a politician.

Because the state violates property rights through its actions. I would refuse the offer as surely as I would refuse to steal, kill or rape.

 

[PurplePoot]

Some dumb questions but whatever.

"You are a left social libertarian.
Left: 6.94, Libertarian: 4.54"

Seems relatively accurate.

 

[Rui]

I assume that's the political compass? No spectrum, poot?

 

[PurplePoot]

The two dimensional graph that the two page survey gave you.

 

[RiotZ]

My Results

I disagree strongly with children require spanking, a relationship should be built on respect not fear, restrictions should be applied when respect is lost, but authoritarian force should never be applied in any situation, including governmental.

Midnighters seems to me to be a white supremacist type.

I personally think anyone 10% above the middle line for Authoritarian/Libertarian must have been raised improperly for answering questions like forced sterilization, and bans on abortion strongly.