WW3: Nuclear Sunrise v1.34

[sgtnoobkilla]

lolz havent played ure map in ages

i like the new changes (wow so much since 1.31 o.0)
but there are still some minor things that need fixing:
- whys there an undead shade near the white house thats under the USA's control? lolz
- chaingun hasnt been fixed

but other than that, everything else is cool =]

i would suggest no new units are needed atm. most of the players who play in my games get confused about the techtree and just end up massing armored units and end up getting them raped by air (or they just spam one type of unit)

...and also, is it ok if i host an optimized, protected version? just for easier hosting?

 

[Ham Ham]

Sorry for all this time out. I've been working on Doom 2 modding, then I left wc3 a bit.

Yes, I have to fix those things.
The Shade was test. And I forgot to remove it. Damn it :X

Okay, optimize it best as you can and host it, but tell people that they can download unprotected versions in hive or epicwar.

 

[Hugomath]

Question: Will you put more stealable technologies from countries?
Suggestion: Make a satelite that launches Nuclear Missiles
Suggestion: A kind of Soldier that you can put weapons on it and he'll start using them(Example:Equip a M249 in a soldier,and he'll become a machinegunner).

PS:If you don't like the suggestions,or it can't be done,just ignore them =).

 

[ClanOOKARep]

Terrain = 9/10
-Some shore areas you cant unload troops in even though they are there
-Some trees just get in the way xD
-Very good map of the world i have to say..i think africa was the best.. gj
Gameplay = 8/10
-Even with 2 AI its still somewhat laggy
-When you capture a town, it lags until its captured and then stops
-You have like 5 humvees attacking at the same times its lag
-Love the actual warfare...its amazing
-Nukes are too easy to get, $2000 for a nuke? xD
-Terrain is amazing when doing cross country war

Suggestion:Make nukes harder to get.
Suggestion: to help make the game more interesting, make it so the player has to produce each and every piece of a nuke, before they can buy it.
Suggestion: Make morale harder to deplete, so many soldiers go nuetral just because of morale, and then you end up losing the fight. xD

Map Rating: 8.5/10 Good work!

 

[Ham Ham]

Question: Will you put more stealable technologies from countries?
Suggestion: Make a satelite that launches Nuclear Missiles
Suggestion: A kind of Soldier that you can put weapons on it and he'll start using them(Example:Equip a M249 in a soldier,and he'll become a machinegunner).

PS:If you don't like the suggestions,or it can't be done,just ignore them =).

Yes, I'm thinking about adding a few more technologies to steal, but I still dont know wich ones. Suggestions?
A satelite with nukes don't sounds good. It's too much unreal. I am always trying to focus on modern warfare, not futurist.

Thanks for your comments. +rep

Terrain = 9/10
-Some shore areas you cant unload troops in even though they are there
-Some trees just get in the way xD
-Very good map of the world i have to say..i think africa was the best.. gj
Gameplay = 8/10
-Even with 2 AI its still somewhat laggy
-When you capture a town, it lags until its captured and then stops
-You have like 5 humvees attacking at the same times its lag
-Love the actual warfare...its amazing
-Nukes are too easy to get, $2000 for a nuke? xD
-Terrain is amazing when doing cross country war

Suggestion:Make nukes harder to get.
Suggestion: to help make the game more interesting, make it so the player has to produce each and every piece of a nuke, before they can buy it.
Suggestion: Make morale harder to deplete, so many soldiers go nuetral just because of morale, and then you end up losing the fight. xD

Map Rating: 8.5/10 Good work!

Can you tell me exactly wich beaches are impossible to unload? (I mean, can you print them, and post here?)
Yeah, people already suggested me to make more expensive nukes.
About the AI lag, blame wc3 engine, not me.
The Humvee's bug happens due the auto-unload trigger. (making the humvee automaticaly unload the troops when engaging the combat, making players dont have to micromanage it.) But I think I can stop this bug if I increase the attack cooldown, and the damage.

Thanks for your comments. +rep.




I have lots of things to do. Americans found a way to make Laser AA Batteries and Anti-RPG eletromagnetic shields (both will be added on the secret research facility), Russians cancelled the Su-47, Brazil purchased Leopards 2 from Germany and Rafaeles from France, South Africa is modernizating it's army, and I still have to fix the broken miniguns. Jeez, I will not able to upload this year, only on 2010.

Sorry for the inactivity on those last months. Thats because I became a Doom 2 mod too, then I almost forgot about warcraft.
Merry Christmas and Happy new year guys. Thanks everyone who helped me this year: Tau Empire, Hugomath, Pomelito, Miss Foxy, Braiden, Sgt.NoobKiller, tleno, and everyone else I forgot to mention. I hope I can see you in 2010 helping me to keep this map going forward.
Just 2 more years to ww3! ^^

 

[Tleno]

Good news with those 2 more years... if it won't happen, will you add +2 more years to the date?

 

[pomelito123]

Yay, 2 more years!!!!

 

[ClanOOKARep]

Yes, I'm thinking about adding a few more technologies to steal, but I still dont know wich ones. Suggestions?
A satelite with nukes don't sounds good. It's too much unreal. I am always trying to focus on modern warfare, not futurist.

Thanks for your comments. +rep




Can you tell me exactly wich beaches are impossible to unload? (I mean, can you print them, and post here?)
Yeah, people already suggested me to make more expensive nukes.
About the AI lag, blame wc3 engine, not me.
The Humvee's bug happens due the auto-unload trigger. (making the humvee automaticaly unload the troops when engaging the combat, making players dont have to micromanage it.) But I think I can stop this bug if I increase the attack cooldown, and the damage.

Thanks for your comments. +rep.




I have lots of things to do. Americans found a way to make Laser AA Batteries and Anti-RPG eletromagnetic shields (both will be added on the secret research facility), Russians cancelled the Su-47, Brazil purchased Leopards 2 from Germany and Rafaeles from France, South Africa is modernizating it's army, and I still have to fix the broken miniguns. Jeez, I will not able to upload this year, only on 2010.

Sorry for the inactivity on those last months. Thats because I became a Doom 2 mod too, then I almost forgot about warcraft.
Merry Christmas and Happy new year guys. Thanks everyone who helped me this year: Tau Empire, Hugomath, Pomelito, Miss Foxy, Braiden, Sgt.NoobKiller, tleno, and everyone else I forgot to mention. I hope I can see you in 2010 helping me to keep this map going forward.
Just 2 more years to ww3! ^^

Yea i know that the WC3 engine is bad....
I will get a list for which beaches wont load them, i can think of one right off the top of ym head and its the one all the way to the left on Antarctica. Its like flattened off and it wont let them unload there +rep for a good overall map

 

[Darkgamma]

Found a tiny bug!
China has a lab in the Mts where a unit might get stuck. If you put some silly thing like a soldier there, not much trouble, but the Rus MBT or experimental MBT might wreck havoc because of the elevation (range boost or smthing)

Dark's note: Good luck HamHam, I'll be there to support u!

 

[Thick_Armor]

Found a tiny bug!
China has a lab in the Mts where a unit might get stuck. If you put some silly thing like a soldier there, not much trouble, but the Rus MBT or experimental MBT might wreck havoc because of the elevation (range boost or smthing)

Dark's note: Good luck HamHam, I'll be there to support u!

Your avatar makes my brain hurt

 

[brayden430]

Something i noticed but in your map you have the USA using Enterprise class Carriers when they have been replaced by Nimitz class aircraft carriers. Even Nimitz are going to be replaced by Gerald R. Ford Class but only one slated for 2015 but if WW3 broke out like in your map im sure production would be ramped up and should be available for the usa to use once 2015 comes around for 12k they include F-35 production Built in SAM sight and would be probably the most powerful Carrier in the game.

 

[WOWWARS]

I luv this map so I'd Decided to edit it and right now I'm trying to Revamp Places and do reserch on few Countrys Ham didn't Finish.

 

[Tleno]

I luv this map so I'd Decided to edit it and right now I'm trying to Revamp Places and do reserch on few Countrys Ham didn't Finish.

Okay, but let Ham Ham take a look at it, we don't want WW3 to be like LOAP... And better upload it to Epicwar than here...

 

[pomelito123]

Okay, but let Ham Ham take a look at it, we don't want WW3 to be like LOAP... And better upload it to Epicwar than here...

Lawl...
WW3 LOAP=EPIC FAIL!!!

 

[Tleno]

Lawl...
WW3 LOAP=EPIC FAIL!!!

I mean all websites will be crawling with WW3 clones...

 

[pomelito123]

I mean all websites will be crawling with WW3 clones...

Million Clone of WW3:NS= EPIC WIN!!!(for HamHam)= EPIC FAIL!!!(for the others)

 

[Tleno]

Million Clone of WW3:NS= EPIC WIN!!!(for HamHam)= EPIC FAIL!!!(for the others)

We are the others, thats bad...

 

[pomelito123]

We are the others, thats bad...

No, not us, i'm mean the others who made the clone

 

[Thick_Armor]

Lawl...
WW3 LOAP=EPIC FAIL!!!

Million Clone of WW3:NS= EPIC WIN!!!(for HamHam)= EPIC FAIL!!!(for the others)

No, not us, i'm mean the others who made the clone

Lol, wtf?

 

[WOWWARS]

No i hate Loap but i'm gonna do some things here and there

so far progress is great Thanks to Ham Ham for doing most of the work

Exactly where is Ham Ham?

 

[Ham Ham]

We are the others, thats bad...

No, the others are the guys who made the coppies. Epic Win for you all too since I hope he will not take alway your names from the credits.

I do allow you to republish your modified map here at the hive, or in any other wc3 site, as long you follow the editing rules that I wrote in the trigger comments.

 

[sgtnoobkilla]

Question: Will you put more stealable technologies from countries?
Suggestion: Make a satelite that launches Nuclear Missiles
Suggestion: A kind of Soldier that you can put weapons on it and he'll start using them(Example:Equip a M249 in a soldier,and he'll become a machinegunner).

hugos ideas are pretty good...but we can obviously phase out the nuclear satellite. thats way too imba lols.

i think the stealable plans (i.e b-2 spirit from the US) is fine for now. doubtful that more are needed unless ham decides otherwise.

instead of having yet another soldier added to the tier, a better idea is to just make one soldier for the barracks. with this one soldier, you can equip him with a weapon (permanent change like M113 or moddable) to allow him to switch to that class (i.e Rifleman as standard; can then be equipped with a light machine gun to become an Automatic Rifleman or grenade launcher to be a Grenadier). this means that you wont need to spend time and resources training multiple types of infantry units; now all you need is one instead.

just my two cents.

 

[pomelito123]

Do anyone here played "Men of War: Red Tide"?
Every Unit has an inventory, and if he run out of bullets... lucky for him that he can punch...
Btw here is my suggestion:
Soldier+M249 SAW= Machinegunner= No Bullets= Go Back into a normal soldier... Get what i mean?

Hugomath's suggestion is also good like the satellite that fires missiles... actually it looks like a SDI(Strategic Defense Initiative) for me...

 

[Tleno]

Yup, and there should be anti-missle satelites too then!

I think I already mentioned the man of war... Its a great game, and I like your idea pomelito 123. We really could use something like that.

And Ham Ham, did you fixed that bug that those light artilery-howziterish thingies ater becoming neutral and ocupied by infantry are still paused?

 

[Hugomath]

Did the submarines don't launch nuclear missiles anylonger cuz you removed,or is unable to make that spell?
Also:
-The M2 Bradley,when you put the upgrade "M2 Bradley Warhammer",the original M2 Bradley don't disappear,its just like the normal Bradley is a kind of builder of Warhammer Bradleys or something =P.
-If the submarine thing that I mentioned still work,you could make the submarines able to upgrade to nuclear launchers submarines,or use that minigun system for the sub (put an item at the shipyard for the submarines wich transforms them into nuclear missile launchers submarines ).
-Will you increase the amount of vehicles that can be upgraded,or will be just those 3 vehicles?(Just to remember:the Stryker APC isn't capable of upgrading for those vehicles that appear in the description.)

EDIT: Forgot to mention: The Cruiser missiles don't go up,they simply pass through the obstacles like they don't even exist =O(I think is unrealistic).

 

[WOWWARS]

i thought this map like ended since it was finished

 

[Ham Ham]

This never was really finished.

Sorry for taking all those time to update a new version. I've rejoined the doom 2 community again, started to make some mods, and completely forgot about wc3, but I will upload a bugfix version soon.

 

[Tleno]

Hey, are you also gonna make this map in SC2 when it will come out?!

 

[brayden430]

Hey, are you also gonna make this map in SC2 when it will come out?!

I think it got brought up before and last i knew he might consider it but it might be up to one of us.

 

[Hugomath]

Hey i've just heard that the U.S Air Force will be creating a variant of the 747: Anti-ICBM Aircraft or something.
Also: You've switched the name of some Countries' Capital at South America: The correct is: Bolivia = La Paz; Paraguay = Asunción and Peru = Lima.

(PS: Saw the 747 thing on Discovery Channel =P)

 

[Ham Ham]

New version uploaded!

Fixed the weird bug making Bradleys "reproduce themselves" when upgrading into warhammers, fixed the minigun (remade from m249), and added new music.

Sorry for taking all this time to upload a new version, and just having those small bug fixes. But I am back 8)

 

[Acorn511]

Great map, I could use the mobile artillery model =D. Any idea on who made the model?

One quick suggestion, there are no DISBTN icons for many of the units, leaving lots of ugly green.

 

[hunterz93]

What's about replacing the sentence in your screenshot box with screens?

 

[Tleno]

Great map, I could use the mobile artillery model =D. Any idea on who made the model?

One quick suggestion, there are no DISBTN icons for many of the units, leaving lots of ugly green.

Actually thats because before the Bllizard patch 1.24 the filesize of the map was ver limited so it was immportant to spare as much kylobites as possible... now its possible, but probably it will be made only in Final version...

 

[Tleno]

You're gonna laugh but the minigun is still not fixed!

Sorruy for double post, but its allowed if the previous post was made later than 24 hours ago, so it can be made...

 

[Hugomath]

He actually changed the minigun to increase attack speed and damage. I think...

 

[Ham Ham]

Ah, fuck!

But how it doesnt work? You can't purchase it? It doesn't works in-game?


I tested it and worked fine!

 

[Tleno]

My infantry uses it and... nothing happens! Something probably is wrong with that "If unit uses an item, item is "minigun", then replace the trrigering unit with "minigunner".

 

[Ham Ham]

Ahhh... no no no.
The item doesn't replaces the unit as a minigunner anymore. It just highly increases his damage and attack speed.

Doesn't the special effects (Gun attachment, firing effect) works properly?

 

[Tleno]

I pick it and... nothing... oh, and if so you should make so it wouldn't have any charges... I'm not sure about attack damage, but it has no attachments definetly...

 

[Hugomath]

Hey guys,watch this video of the Russian Army. Maybe can give you some ideas Ham Ham =D.
[YOUTUBE][/YOUTUBE]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5oRQzdXDzdE

 

[tupacalypse]

your map seems to be the wrong file type. it wont appear in my custom games list and i can't open it in world editor. you need to change the file type.

 

[Tleno]

I doubt there is something new we could use in that video...

 

[Hugomath]

Well the ICBM Launcher Submarines are intersting and I know,it already was in a older version and I want to know if Ham Ham will put back them. But I just give the link so you guys could take a look and see if there's anything intersting.

 

[Tleno]

your map seems to be the wrong file type. it wont appear in my custom games list and i can't open it in world editor. you need to change the file type.

Do you have WC3: Frozen Throne expansion?

 

[Carter_117]

Hey i sorta read through everything then (yes everything) and i was wondering if u need some help? as in ideas, etc for this final version. also i dont think this will exactly get popular until diplo maps as a whole get more populer like on starcraft its not the map just the audiunce your trying to present to. also what happened to the unique infantry idea? it woulda made for a more realistic (russian conscripts, cost less but worse in general) etc. or is map size constraints?

 

[Tau Empire]

Hey i sorta read through everything then (yes everything) and i was wondering if u need some help? as in ideas, etc for this final version. also i dont think this will exactly get popular until diplo maps as a whole get more populer like on starcraft its not the map just the audiunce your trying to present to. also what happened to the unique infantry idea? it woulda made for a more realistic (russian conscripts, cost less but worse in general) etc. or is map size constraints?

I don't think he will need help, this is probably the final version since Starcraft 2 is comming out this summer, and continue making the map on Starcraft 2 instead of WC3.

 

[Hugomath]

lol i think this map is better at Wc3 than Sc2. Well that's my opinion ''/. Hey I wanna ask something, why don't you use that Tank and Helicopter attack system on this map? Would cause lag or something?

 

[brayden430]

lol i think this map is better at Wc3 than Sc2. Well that's my opinion ''/. Hey I wanna ask something, why don't you use that Tank and Helicopter attack system on this map? Would cause lag or something?

Your right it probly would cause lag. I think it would probly work better in Starcraft 2 especial if the max map size is larger. Along with better animations for missiles and stuff along with 100% customizable UI.

 

[Tleno]

Your right it probly would cause lag. I think it would probly work better in Starcraft 2 especial if the max map size is larger. Along with better animations for missiles and stuff along with 100% customizable UI.

...Haven't you seen the doddads they are gonna have there? I'm 100% sure it will be much better.