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The Reader's Lounge

Discussion in 'Off-Topic' started by Keiji, Feb 11, 2015.

  1. Ash

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    I managed to lose my kindle, so I'm only on academic reads for now. :(
     
  2. GunSlinger

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    Well, now that I think about it, reading is at the bottom of my list of hobbies. Thankfully audiobooks let me multitask. Dunno if that counts as "reading" a book, but it works for me.
     
  3. RED BARON

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    Audiobooks and Ebooks + the good old ones all work I assume?

    As such I could recommend: A Million Years in a Day: A Curious History of Everyday Life

    I've heard it as an audiobook, read by the author (very British). Its more like a documentary, in that it attempts to describe a day, from early morning until you go to bed again, taking a very close look at the different things that you may encounter during this period. Such as, why is it named the toilet, why day light saving? Who first came up with the idea a pen... and so forth. It goes into a lot of detail shedding light upon details and meanings behind words we have long since forgotten. It can be a bit mindboggling at times, but I still recommend it. Very interesting, assuming of course that you have some passing interest in history of sorts.
     
  4. Keiji

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    As much as I (still) dislike the idea of audio-books, I guess it's okay.
    Seeing as there is so many people who listen to them these days.

    You want me to add that recommendation to the main post?

    If so, please tell me where you think it fits and who wrote it.
     
  5. Chaosy

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    I can understand some perks with audio books, but I still prefer a real book. Same goes for ebooks.
     
  6. Gilles

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    Just finished the Reckoners Series by Brandon Sanderson. It's about super heroes, but it's nothing like comic books. The "heroes" are all evil. The main character struggles as a human against super humans (think superman). His obstacles always seem impossible, but the book constantly surprises you.

    It was really good. Until the end. The end wasn't bad, but I found it way too fast and less exciting than the rest of the books were. The books constantly surprised me, and while I didn't guess what would happen in the end, I found it lack luster. I was still really happy with the series. Highly recommend.
     
  7. TheLordOfChaos201

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    I wonder sometimes, 'how do writes grip you so that you will never put that book down'

    I recently read an extremely boring book by Stephen king(or is it Steven?) the book was so poorly put together that epilogue was 10 pages of explanation as to what actually happened in the story. the thing is, even though it was a horrible book I couldn't put it down.

    the author started the book with an interesting style. he began with a question,'little did I know this would be the last time I saw her alive' so you begin to wonder what is going to happen next? hence the question.

    now I wonder, what are some other writing tricks for hooking a reader no matter the quality of work?
     
  8. Deathcom3s

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    Those are my feelings as well. It was a great ride, and the books are solid throughout, but compared to the "Oh, Shit" moments of the previous books, this third one just fell a little flat. It was still a good book, but definitely not the best of the series.
     
  9. Keiji

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    I don't really want to start an argument here, but you can't say that Stephen King
    writes bad books, he is recognized as one of the greatest authors of our time. Like
    him nor not, you can't deny that he is a good author. Please refrain from presenting
    your opinions like facts, I don't mind opinions, but don't present them arrogantly.
     
  10. TheLordOfChaos201

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    I agree his a good writer... I'm just saying that book was absolutely useless but despite that I couldn't put it down.

    what other secretes do writer uses to keep readers reading?
     
  11. Gilles

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    Good writing!? :p

    It's a good question, and one worth discussing, but I would suggest we move it to another thread as I feel the intention of this one is to make recommendations or reviews of books.
     
  12. TheLordOfChaos201

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    could you open this another thread, I'm afraid people just ignore me when I open threads
     
  13. Keiji

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    Nah, I don't think this is a big enough discussion to detach from this thread, and while yes,
    this thread is mainly for suggesting and recommending books, it's also about discussing
    books. Hence a discussion about how authors write their books would be okay I'd say.

    Certainly, but what is good writing?

    What I've come to discover, through my aspiring writer amateurism, curiousty is a key
    word for keeping your readers engaged in what you write. Dropping some few
    expressions and titles and information tidbits without explaining too much about it
    will often make a reader want to know more about what that is. As an example I want
    to bring up the opening sentence in my favorite novel, The Lies of Locke Lamora:

    "At the height of the long summer of the seventy-seventh year of Sendovani, the
    Thiefmaker of Camorr paid a sudden and unannounced visit to the Eyeless Priest
    at the temple of Perelandro, desperately hoping to sell him the Lamora boy."

    This introduction is stuffed with intriguing factors, it makes the reader wonder:

    - Who or what is Sendovani and Perelandro?
    - Who is the Thiefmaker, and why is he called exactly that?
    - Who is the Eyeless Priest, and why...
    - The book is called "The Lies of Locke Lamora", so "the Lamora boy" must be the
    lead character, right?
    - What is Camorr?

    Obviously this is only one example of ways to keep a reader interested, but a very
    good one I think, one that is actively used by authors such as Scott Lynch, Brandon
    Sandersen and George R. R. Martin, and more.
     
  14. TheLordOfChaos201

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    I read a book once with a very interesting hook, not as good as the book I mentioned before but an interesting one.

    Instead of posing a question, this book began by offering an impossible goal. The main character proclaimed that they would become king of bla... what ever this land was, and it seem an impossible goal because everyone hated him and he was quite moronic and useless as a human being.

    Which was what kept me reading, how is it that this idiot will become king?

    Another book I read used a different strategy, similar to the question posing idea I had earlier and this goal orientated hook. They had the book start by explaining how this city was built and every contingency to prevent it being totally destroyed by the enemy. It seemed like an impossibility for the city to be captured by the enemy or destroyed, yet that was what the hook was. A group of seers said, despite the cities fortifications it will fall in 20 days

    Which became the curiosity, how is it that this city will fall exactly? Unfortunately this book involved magic and the enemy obliterated it magically without tact or imagination.

    But regardless, we now have four concepts of hooks

    Goal orientated
    The impossibility achieved
    Questions
    Mysteries

    All of which seem to hang on curiosity

    What are some other means of hooking your readers?
     
  15. Gottfried

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    This thread is great! :D I used to read the seven Harry Potter books, and I am quite disappointed, that they left many parts of it, when they made a film "series" from the book. Subjective words can be found down below:
    What I missed or what I considered to awkward?

    - Vernon's early chapter in the first book... about he saw the wizards, who celebrated Voldemort's fall.
    - Harry's suffering, when he and Dudley discuss about muggle schools and Dudley bullied him.
    - In the adaptation, Harry caused Marge to float outside of their house, while in the book, she floated inside the house. It may only for overwhelming the viewers, I think.
    - Where is Peeves?
    - In the 3th book Marge's tyranny to Harry lasted all week. In the film, all the incidents happened in the same day. Film showed Harry quite hot-tempered here.
    - I missed the "magic word" character, probably it may condensed into the preparation of the arrival scene (Chamber of Secrets)
    - I missed the chapter 3 and 4 from the fourth film. Where Weasley family met Dursley family.
    - Also awkward thing: Why Wizards has no any interests about modern things? I mean they are feudalism people with modern-age... sure we can see a small mention, where Dean Thomas is a fan of an english football club. But the people here are really ignore the outside world.
    - How Harry's parents collects a tons of money? As far as I remembered they are aurors, that work is so well-paid? Or they do bets? Or James had a wealth, which goes through the past generations? I not remembered exactly.
    - Dumbledore's motivations are became clear in the seventh book, although it is not the best idea to give Harry to Dursleys, even if they are the last living relatives. I read the seventh book years ago and I not clearly remember, but if I knew, that Dumbledore gave me to a overly-irritating family, I sure will be angry and call him to numerous things.
    - Why Slytherin so "one-dimensioned"? I mean we know a pretty few student to there... also I found awkward, that school rivalry. In real life classes are not so football team like. Gryffindor vs Slytherin (hope it is a good reference :D )

    What I considered amazing:
    - Harry Potter, I mean the character. He is a thoughtful, emotional and brave one. We know, that his parents killed and he carried to Dursley's.
    - The map of the marauders, however they not used that too much.
    - The Spider Boss of the Second Part, he is clearly intimidating.
    - Tom Denem, in book he is certainly praised by the Slytherin's students, he is a fair villain. He often gets what he want and never afraid to slay anyone, which makes him terrified in HP universe.
    - Mourning Myrtle, he is firstly humorous with the ghost-subtrope (
    Make fun to throw things at her)

    Ahh... I trying to remember amazing things, but only awkward things jump up:
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    Why Voldemort has no better PR like Nicholas Flamel, I mean if he is a master communicator, he can present his goals somehow other? Why he not just buy an unicorn (IF he wants to be immortal, then he surely collects the relations and money for it) and slay it, while no one see and drink it blood. I know, then the whole plot is meaningless, but it is so good to make theories like this. Please do not come up with the Hawks.

    I also read Song of Ice and Fire, four books exactly. Now I read the fifth. In books, I very fond of Tyrion, Jaime, Cersei, sometimes Jon and Davos's chapters. They are very "down-to earth" persons. I read the Arianne chapter in the fourth book and find her very determined and brave. She tried to crown Myrcella to make her position better. In fact the Dorne chapters are very complex in books and in show... meh! :D Though show is quite good! (Do not attack me, show fans)
    Greyjoy Kingsmoot in books are very long and interesting, numerous claimer appeared and in the end, the patient Euron used the horn and the ray of a new era with Targaryens to conquer the seven kingdoms. Where is Victarion? (I know... show not enough time to show him)
    - In show, we get this as Euron:
    [​IMG] and a very small kingsmoot, where two claimant debate about who build the fleet (THERE ARE NO WOODS there) and who had a bigger... you know, sorry. Anyway why any Euron supporter does not halt Yara(Asha)? And also
    FUN FACT: Suffocation, if the victim somehow survived... causes serious brain damage (biology teacher told it) so only this gives sense, that why Euron hallucinated large forests to the creepy islands.

    First three books are more similar to the series, than the latter ones. Maybe the one with Cleos Frey are strange a bit, and with Bloody Mummers and Vargo Hoat. I missed Asha/Yara from the second season, in books she went to parley with Theon. No matter really... the show and the series are very great and popular.

    Only Stannis, who is may disgraced in show. In books he is far-more talkative and reasonable, in fifth book he show no sight to burn Shireen (But it may happen in Winds of Winter)

    Also ps: I read that somebody wants warcraft creepypasta or at least pretty scary stories, well then check Maps/Too Simple thread, I found very horrific maps. Scarier than any horror-film.
     
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    So far this year I have been reading the Warcraft Books and the WoW Books. Really interesting and after playing Wc3 Reign of Chaos and Frozen Throne, everything is making soooo much more sense and learning about the characters histories is amazing. Really appreciated Warcraft a whole lot more after a few books, there are 17 in total and sadly only got 4 left.
     
  17. Butterfield.Dav

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    I also read a series of books about Harry Potter. I was very impressed! Of course, the end of these books is a bit predictable, but I'm ready to re-read them once I have more free time.
     
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  18. Gottfried

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    Geez, I wrote that comment two years ago. Oh man, I lost my creative energies and thoughts in the flow of the days. Now I not completely sure, that I able to write a review like the one above.
     
  19. Butterfield.Dav

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    It is okay, I just registered, and somehow I wanted to read a topic about books... :)
     
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  20. Gottfried

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    I think in the off-topics, you may find plenty topics about different books.