[System] Unit Indexer

[TriggerHappy]

https://github.com/HiveWorkshop/JASS-Code/tree/master/Unit Indexer
https://github.com/HiveWorkshop/JASS-Code/tree/master/Unit Indexer AIDS

Yeah.. place it in JASS tags nes.

 

[Bribe]

Yes, the only reason to not use this is if you are just using the vanilla world editor like me.

 

[Ralle]

Hey Nes, please put the actual code in JASS tags. It's alright if you ALSO link to github.

 

[Nestharus]

gy all my stuff in Spells/JASS sections please, moving it all to github :O

Please give me until December 15th to do this move. We can do the mass gy on the 16th.


Not sure what you guys are going to do about the rules and using other people's stuff. My stuff will technically be approved on 0 sites, so I don't know whether you'll allow people to submit resources using my stuff or not. If you do, then anyone could just use anything, and the approval system will be put by the wayside altogether =). Otherwise, people can just not use my stuff I guess ; P, which is fine.

I'm planning some cool stuff for the resources with major documentation (Network, File I/O, Codeless Save/Load, and DDS).

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for now, UnitIndexer, WorldBounds, and Event can be gy'd.

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ofc, if THW had a nice distribution and auto updating system like GitHub, I'd stay here . GitHub is nice in that I can create a resource on my hard drive, change it, change 15 other resources, and then hit Push and it's all updated on the web automatically. I don't have to cnp the 16 things across 16 different threads, and then I don't have to change dependent threads all over either (like DDS, now that's a pain to update). Also, I like it when users can have the stuff that they are using be updated automatically. If they are using Resource A, they don't have to check daily to see if it has been updated, they can just see the red ! and go, time to update, and then hit Fetch to update everything. Ofc, I believe that they should have sub-repos, one repo for each map. This will be a little challenging to do though, will require a custom tool that interfaces with github . However, if THW had the right distribution system, not just threads, it could interface with THW just as easily.

Anyways, those are my thoughts on the matter. GitHub to me is superior/easier to use, thus I go there.

I'll also probably reform the docs a bit and add something like, "If You Like This Resource, Please Donate" at the top with a link to thw's donation page.

 

[TriggerHappy]

gy all my stuff in Spells/JASS sections please, moving it all to github :O

Please give me until December 15th to do this move. We can do the mass gy on the 16th.

This is really how you handle it? By rage quitting and deleting all your resources?

Not sure what you guys are going to do about the rules and using other people's stuff. My stuff will technically be approved on 0 sites, so I don't know whether you'll allow people to submit resources using my stuff or not. If you do, then anyone could just use anything, and the approval system will be put by the wayside altogether =). Otherwise, people can just not use my stuff I guess ; P, which is fine.

I'm pretty sure you know JASS scripts that aren't approved can be used in other resources. If that wasn't the case, all scripts using wc3c resources would be rejected.

I'm planning some cool stuff for the resources with major documentation (Network, File I/O, Codeless Save/Load, and DDS).

What's the point of even saying you're going to be update with major documentation and "cool stuff" when you clearly just said you're taking your stuff off THW. It seems like an attempt to rub it in Ralle's or our faces.

 

[Statharas]

Honestly, Ness, that's quite stupid of you. You could keep them both here and on github. It's just that we want the code here as well.

 

[Nestharus]

What's the point of even saying you're going to be update with major documentation and "cool stuff" when you clearly just said you're taking your stuff off THW. It seems like an attempt to rub it in Ralle's or our faces.

Honestly, Ness, that's quite stupid of you. You could keep them both here and on github. It's just that we want the code here as well.

I don't agree with the distribution systems of threads, which is why I've been wanting to move to github for a long time . This just provides me with an immediate push of something that I was otherwise going to do slowly, but surely.

Having it both here and on github would defeat the purpose of github, which is easy distribution (I just push), and easy retrieval (everyone else just fetches).

Now, if THW had such features, then I'd have no reason to have any of my stuff on github. I also like the issue tracker and the google code tickets ^_^.

I mentioned the cool documentation stuff, because by having it on github, I won't be limited to a thread format. I could do an html page, a pdf, or w/e else. This makes for way better/cooler documentation =). It was not an attempt to rub it in anyone's face.

 

[BPower]

If I got this right github severs you better for your own purpose and in case thats correct I can truly understand it. I just wonder if you have the same audience there as you have here on THW, at least for wc3 resources.
Also your stuff is and has been public and free to use here for quite a long time, therefore I don't understand, why you want to erase it now. A lot of resources use World Bounds, Alloc, CTL, etc as standart should we depart from those in the future?

 

[Nestharus]

I'm actually going to be putting all of the stuff on the THW GitHub Repo.

You can actually find it on google too

https://www.google.com/search?q=git...j7&sourceid=chrome&espv=210&es_sm=93&ie=UTF-8

It's set up to use a more in-depth approval system than the one we have now actually , so anyone can contribute to it and have their stuff approved/not approved, if we wanted to keep with that.

It's also pointless to keep the stuff here because any updates will go to github ;\. If there is a bug in a resource, the code on THW is never going to be fixed, but it will likely be fixed on github.

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btw, we can organize stuff into folders on github, like collections, encryption, and so on, it will be way easier to find stuff : |. It won't be just a list of stuff like how you'd have on a forum. It really will be better =).

I'm always a push for radical change. Whenever I see something that is better, I push for it to happen ; P, and even do it by myself if I must ;o. This case is no different .

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http://www.hiveworkshop.com/forums/submissions-414/jass-script-repo-228913/

Last edited by Nestharus; 01-18-2013 at 10:02 PM.

So I once again say that this is nothing new. This has been a long time coming.

 

[looking_for_help]

I'm not sure if this will really be a benefit for both users and coders.

Of course its much easier to update a resource with GitHub but you don't know if the majority of the community will accept the new system. Most people don't care about updates as long as they don't have a concrete problem with exactly that resource... So there is the risk that people will just move to the spell section or even to other sites like wc3c or TH which then provide a more "natural" interface for resources.

Maybe you should ask the site administration first if its not possible to setup a GitHub-like auto update mechanism before taking a hasty decision and graveyarding all your stuff.

 

[Troll-Brain]

100 % Nestharus.
It's funny how you've edited your post.

 

[Bribe]

Nes, another option is to keep your JASS tags here for a WORKING version and if people want to risk the syntax errors of your hard drive updates they can use this other web site. You'll end up with old versions on THW but with the additional github link you can say 'I recommend downloading from here'.

 

[IcemanBo]

Is the sense of presenting a JASS Resource in this section to paste links to github?

How to easily post triggers

 

[Nestharus]

Nes, another option is to keep your JASS tags here for a WORKING version and if people want to risk the syntax errors of your hard drive updates they can use this other web site. You'll end up with old versions on THW but with the additional github link you can say 'I recommend downloading from here'.

Problem is that they'll never seen new versions. Also, I'm known for changing API's, so if they are using an old version and try to use something else that uses it and it throws syntax errors, they won't know why. I just view it as pointless to keep an old version of code up. I clear that stuff out as fast as I can.

Of course its much easier to update a resource with GitHub but you don't know if the majority of the community will accept the new system. Most people don't care about updates as long as they don't have a concrete problem with exactly that resource... So there is the risk that people will just move to the spell section or even to other sites like wc3c or TH which then provide a more "natural" interface for resources.

They won't ; P. Neither the coders nor the users will accept such a system. I'll likely be the only one doing it. If someone wants to use my stuff, they'll just have to suck it up .

Maybe you should ask the site administration first if its not possible to setup a GitHub-like auto update mechanism before taking a hasty decision and graveyarding all your stuff.

We already had a discussion 11 months ago

 

[Bribe]

There are sometimes reasons to keep old version around. Before internet-connected games came out, there never were patches but they still work fine. Sure your new stuff may be better, but if it breaks backwards compatibility sometimes the user isn't in a position to change all their code.

 

[Ruke]

it isn't neccesary to delete/gy the posts, just edit them and put the link to the git repository.

 

[PurgeandFire]

it isn't neccesary to delete/gy the posts, just edit them and put the link to the git repository.

But we (moderators) want the posts to be in the main post, which is why he wants them gy'd after he moves them. He could technically just add the link to the git and leave all the code there in the threads (which I assume is what you meant), but Nes won't do that.

If he wants to do that, we don't need to do anything to stop it. Our moderators have already all agreed that we want the codes in the posts, so... this is the outcome.

 

[Ruke]

no code in post, that would be pointless.

feedback/suggestions/bug-report can be commented here or in github.

edit: if you really want code in the post, i believe you can use https://gist.github.com/.

 

[Nestharus]

That looks sweet, but we come back to the problem of folders and a global repo.

 

[Ruke]

That looks sweet, but we come back to the problem of folders and a global repo.

?

use whatever fits more to your needs.

you're right, only solves 1 problem but lacks in the other part <.<

git repo then

 

[Ralle]

Nes,
I have a suggestion. What if I could come up with a highlight tag that highlighted raw github links like this one https://raw.github.com/HiveWorkshop/JASS-Code/master/Unit%20Indexer/script.j ?
Would that work for you?

It would fetch the contents of the page and highlight it.

 

[edo494]

Nes,
I have a suggestion. What if I could come up with a highlight tag that highlighted raw github links like this one https://raw.github.com/HiveWorkshop/JASS-Code/master/Unit%20Indexer/script.j ?
Would that work for you?

It would fetch the contents of the page and highlight it.

that sounds crazy good to me lol

 

[Nestharus]

Nes,
I have a suggestion. What if I could come up with a highlight tag that highlighted raw github links like this one https://raw.github.com/HiveWorkshop/JASS-Code/master/Unit%20Indexer/script.j ?
Would that work for you?

It would fetch the contents of the page and highlight it.

that would work O-o

I would put up the folder links though, so you'll have to grab things with .j extension and display readme/documentation or w/e. I also wouldn't reply to the threads, people would still have to put up issues if they run into a bug.

 

[Nestharus]

using the new vjass highlight tags from Ralle

still no documentation, readme, or map tho :\


also, after I do the move, all of this stuff will have //! include, so if the scripts aren't in the proper files in the proper folders, you're going to have problems >.<.

 

[edo494]

wow really dude, its that hard to come here and rewrite the links once for you?
I wonder how you could actually make this resource with that kind of attitude

 

[Nestharus]

wow really dude, its that hard to come here and rewrite the links once for you?
I wonder how you could actually make this resource with that kind of attitude

how is providing the links to those files different from providing links to the code? >.>

the links for everything are still in the main post

 

[Bribe]

Wow, trust Ralle to make an otherwise-miserable experience awesome, with a great new feature, too!

 

[edo494]

you should link https://github.com/HiveWorkshop/JASS-Code/blob/master/Unit Indexer/!! documentation.txt as you linked the other files, because currently you are lacking any documentation whatsoever here on hive

 

[Nestharus]

i will, but it'll have jass highlighting and be difficult to read

 

[Anachron]

Nes',

I'm officially telling you now: This has to stop.
What you are doing has nothing to do with productivity anymore.
You are killing the last bit of mapping that is left in this community.

Please, seriously think about it.

 

[edo494]

Nes',

I'm officially telling you now: This has to stop.
What you are doing has nothing to do with productivity anymore.
You are killing the last bit of mapping that is left in this community.

Please, seriously think about it.

you just wasted minute or 2 of your life you will never get back by writing this

 

[Cokemonkey11]

You're all wasting time by using a unit indexer in the first place :3

 

[chobibo]

Why? I thought it was needed in some stuff?

 

[Bribe]

Cokemonkey is trolling again as per usual. Must be Tuesday.