Sunken City v2.5.1c

[Burndead]

The gate that usually breaks down and sometimes Rock Golem spawns at it should be always open in Singleplayer mode, thus allowing you to open the twin-switches door from behind.

Ah, yes. You are right. My bad for miswatching it.

Another question: what is the time period between spawning infernals and doom guards falling down from the sky? If there's any.

 

[SpasMaster]

Ah, yes. You are right. My bad for miswatching it.

Another question: what is the time period between spawning infernals and doom guards falling down from the sky? If there's any.

If my memory serves me right, this event cannot occur in less than 6 mins. The minimum interval before two occurrences of the event is 6 mins.
For example, if an infernal drops at 12:00 mins game time, there won't be another drop until 18:00 mins. But there is no maximum interval. This means that after the 18:00 mins, it can happen at any point in the game or it may never happen again.

 

[Burndead]

If my memory serves me right, this event cannot occur in less than 6 mins. The minimum interval before two occurrences of the event is 6 mins.
For example, if an infernal drops at 12:00 mins game time, there won't be another drop until 18:00 mins. But there is no maximum interval. This means that after the 18:00 mins, it can happen at any point in the game or it may never happen again.

I see. So it's purely random after the minimum. Is this intended to keep away the afkers or you got another thing on your mind for it?

 

[SpasMaster]

I see. So it's purely random after the minimum. Is this intended to keep away the afkers or you got another thing on your mind for it?

In a game with limited possibilities due to the age of the editor, I have resorted to randomness as the most efficient way to ensure replayability. An infernal drop may change the outcome of any battle. If it occurs during a bossfight it makes for a more challenging encounter. It also teaches the player the important lesson (in this map) which is to stick together and avoid going alone. AFK-ers are unfortunately unintentional victims to the random event. :X

 

[Burndead]

I wanna whine now about how broken the Count's Memento item is. Like I've said, I'm playing Shaman and with this item and the Earth shield on, I'm pretty much invincible. I've got like over 60+ procs already and I bought it at lvl 11. But 1500 gold and 5 crystals are really obtainable early in the game. Put your hero near a healing stone with this item, let the infernal/doom guard fall down from the sky, afk for 2-3 hours, voala = 200 str.
You need to rebalance some part of this item.

OR

It is actually intended by you to build the Shaman that way. Although this can be applied to any other hero.

Thoughts?

 

[SpasMaster]

Put your hero near a healing stone with this item, let the infernal/doom guard fall down from the sky, afk for 2-3 hours, voala = 200 str.
You need to rebalance some part of this item.

Well, here is the thing:
While I realize this could be unbalanced, I will certainly not balance the game according to exploits. I bet you can find many more things about which you could say "AFK X numer of hours and you will get Y."
Do I consider "AFK for hours" as an acceptable mechanic to balance the game? Hell, no. Not to mention that if you are playing the game with allies (which is the way the map is designed to be played), you wouldn't be able to afk for that long.
Now that I think of it though, a single creep cannot produce more than a single stack on that item, so afking won't bring you more than 1 str. You will need to find different enemies to stack up the damage for you.

But even if other such occasions occur when you can claim that if you afk with something for a bunch of hours, it becomes OP, well then go for it if it's an enjoyable experience for you... I personally don't play games to afk in them or to exploit them which is why this isn't designed to be played by 1 player.
You can make the same argument about gold accumulation. Theoretically you can AFK for 24 hours and come back with a shitload of gold. Can that happen - yes. Should I "balance" the game, because someone can AFK for hours - no. Would I enjoy playing that way - no.

So.. yeah. AFKers ruin the experience for themselves, but if you enjoy it that way - go ahead. But Count's Memento cannot gain more than 1 stack from a single enemy, so that one is alright.

 

[Burndead]

I see your point.
The afking was just an example. Many areas of the map got many creeps in them which cannot kill you but can stack damage for the procs. Which is making him perfect for a tank.

Count's Memento cannot gain more than 1 stack from a single enemy, so that one is alright.

Alright then. You did your balancing job in my eyes. Keep it up.

Dunno if mentioned before but which heroes can survive on single heroic insane gameplay? Besides Ranger and Shaman. Already tried them by myself and it works.

 

[Wardrom]

the best change the map creator could make is the kalisea fire, a friend and i get stucked in this part in previous versions, and it would be great if you make a hint about how to get the bow in the near the volcano

 

[Warseeker]

Best Map ! I like it so much 5/5 +rep ! You know... I'm thinking about join your group in Garena perhaps one day! But believe it or not... I've played this map by my self with (BloodElf Paladin), I get to level 11, I've almost complete all the quest... but I've always get killed by a golem (Siadan) then I realise that this not a single player map ...

 

[WhiteFang]

Best Map !

Definitely one of the best

 

[Burndead]

Best Map ! I like it so much 5/5 +rep ! You know... I'm thinking about join your group in Garena perhaps one day! But believe it or not... I've played this map by my self with (BloodElf Paladin), I get to level 11, I've almost complete all the quest... but I've always get killed by a golem (Siadan) then I realise that this not a single player map ...

Progressing further in the game will give you hints about how to obtain the bow. It's easier than you think.

 

[KevinDashR]

Anyone wants to play this via gameranger? if you want to play sent PM.

(Only english and/or spanish language)

 

[Sokoro]

WARNING, GIANTIC SPOILERS AHEAD:

the best change the map creator could make is the kalisea fire, a friend and i get stucked in this part in previous versions, and it would be great if you make a hint about how to get the bow in the near the volcano

You will need to disable the generator of electric field. Hint to this can be found in The legend of Thori'dal book, which is agility heroes item and can be found in south-east quarter of the map. You will usually get to the book at level 8.

The book says, that you need to get your hands on Charged Rod. To do that, you need to get Disabled Rod, which is in a barrel which randomly spawns in certain areas of the map, so far it spawned in The Skeleton Tomb dungeon, in last room with the boss, and also behind Zerash on a small ledge (you can there by hidden path between trees). Zerash is that black Naga near waterfall before Zultar Forest dungeon.
You will also need to get Charging Stone (to charge the disabled rod), which is located in western part of the island (you get there after you are lvl10+), outside of the temple, on north end of the hydra beach, behind a stone obelisk. You can see the stone if you look at the obelisk from left side.

When you get these two items, charge the rod (by clicking on it) and the forcefield disapeirs and you can go back and pickup the legendary Bow.

this is nice map i have played.. i have completed it.. but still i can't find ghost key and how to get legend of dawn book?? any suggest or clue?

p/s.. hey please add more new heroes..

You get Ghost Key as a drop from Zerash, You can make him killable when you use Elven Stone of the Moon item on him, it is uncommon rarity Relic item, random drop.

You can get The Legend of Dawn book by teleporting into its cell by power circle, which is behind the Rolling Stone Door in north-west part of the map, the door with "This is sealed by complicated mechanism, there is something important behind it" and which are behind the Massive Ruined Gate, where the big demon kills that troll questgiver.
And guess what? You open the complicated mechanism door by using the lever which is behind the fence that is opened by the Ghost Key.

The Legend of Dawn says that you need to use the book when you have three items in your inventory, all of them are in south-east quarter of the map.

Nerubian Egg - Found in south-west corner of spider arena with that big spider boss
Corrupted Essence - In a secret near Master's Chamber, spawns when you get to Corrupted Ressurection Stone.
Kerrata (a brown mushroom) - In hidden area left of Feric's Throne (destroy rock chunks)

i played it and really enjoy the game and i could finish it hell mode singleplayer without dying

i got a few questions i couldnt solve them
1. how does the nerubian egg work?

2. how does the corrupted ressurection stone works? and what is that corruption essence for?

3. how does the small water bowl work? i filled it with water already but how to use it?

4. a naga royal guard named zerash with 14 HP and divine armor invulnerable. What is his role?

5. how to open the rolling stone door at the near-end game? it says a very complicated mechanism but there's something really important

6. how to obtain the legend of dawn book in the "two corridors"?

7. in the first dungeon, how can you obtain the item in the middle of the sea? and then how can you go pass through the two torches at the end? u'll instantly dead if you pass

8. at the vault. i couldn't open the gate that leeds to three treasures + 1 seed of idrasil. how to open that?

9. there's a magic wall that if you want to open it, u'll need a key that isn't made of hard material? how does that work?


sorry for many questions. thanks

1. 2. Both Corrupted Essence and Nerubian Egg are used in Dawn legendary item recipe (more info above)

3. You need to use it when you stand on tree stump inside of small circle, which is in The Vault optional dungeon, in central part, north of south locked gate.
The tree will grow and open the gate south of it. Entrance to that dungeon is portal gate which is left of that dryad which can transform your items.
The bowl itself can be found in Ancient Bookshelf, north of alchemist quest giver (the one which gives you quest about blowing up a gold mine).
You can fill the bowl with water if you stay next to a waterfall, which is south of the alchemist questgiver.

4. He can be made killable by using Elven Stone of the Moon item on him, it is uncommon rarity Relic item, random drop. After you kill him, he drops Ghost Key.

5. 6. It is all part of puzzle for legendary sword Dawn. You can get The Legend of Dawn book by teleporting into its cell by power circle, which is behind the Rolling Stone Door in north-west part of the map, the door with "This is sealed by complicated mechanism, there is something important behind it"
You open the complicated mechanism door by using the lever which is behind the fence that is opened by a Ghost Key.

7. Naga heroes can swim.

8. By using the water bowl on the tree stump

9. You need the Ghost key, it drops from Zerash.

I'm playing this map with a friend of mine, and we've been playing it for years, usually re-playing it because it's such a great map, trying out different combos.

Now, however, we're stuck at obtaining this specific item. The Phoenix Egg. Could you possibly throw us a little hint about where we should go in order to grab it?

Does it spawn at random places from game to game? Or is it always this one specific place?

Sincerely, Mr.TwD.

You get the phoenix egg by teleporting there with Ultrasafe Transporter, an item which is sold by Ancient Relics merchant, who is in The Vault optional dungeon.
He is behind locked gate which can be unlocked by a lever which is hidden in the same room, north of the big tree that is south of the gate.

The teleporter item has a chance to shock you for damage, to fail, or to teleport you to various, normaly unreachable, hidden areas which usualy contains some shadow crystals or atribute books, but some of them can contain more valuable items. It can also teleport you to starting location or various other normal locations with no real benefit.

For the love of everything that is holy where is Ferric's key, me and my friends spent 6 hours today trying to find it and we failed. The only option left was the level 10 corridor but we were level 7 at the time. Please don't tell me we were supposed to go there Great map though, me and my friends absolutely loved it.

There is secret are near Master's Chamber location, it is a hidden path a bit south of the chamber, on the oposite side of the door with lighting bolt striking in front of them. There you can find Corrupted Ressurection Stone, if you go bit north in this secret are, you find Altar of Atalai, go west and you get on a ledge with power circle, walk on the power circle to get teleported to the Ferric's key.

4-What is the guardian key acquired from?

You get in in the 10+ area where you fight Naga boss in circle of power. A bit south-west of the boss is a building with red crystal above it, you can enter the building and hit a switch hidden inside, which lowers a platfrom with the key.

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UNDISCOVERED SECRETS:

I found an use for Royal Ruby, you use it when standing on these three circles left of Ancient Relics shop in The Vault dungeon, but I need two more. Where to find them?

How get Garthok's Axe? It seems to be just easter egg, with no real way to get the item.
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Notes:
-Found the map for Scepter of the king, had to do nothing with the tuskar (he is probably just easter egg), the map is west of zultar forest dungeon entrace, next to a crashed ship

-Master's Chamber has two gates:
Left Gate is opened when you have two rare items in your inventory, Nozdormu Token and Ysera Token. It contain Hearth of Wyrmrest, very powerfull red rarity item. These tokens seems to drop only from crates, chests or shelves.
Right Gate is opened by Key of Life, which drops very rarely. It contains 3x +5all stats books in shelves and red question mark, if you click on the question mark, then it opens portal to secret location with Tablet of Life, very powerfull red rarity item.

 

[Burndead]

I found an use for Royal Ruby, you use it when standing on these three circles left of Ancient Relics shop in The Vault dungeon, but I need two more. Where to find them?

Thanks for your tips.
One ruby can be found in the volcan area where the gnoll boss is. One is behind the obelisk near banshees and the lvl 4 dungeon. One is in a barrel.

 

[p1p37z]

So garthok's axe is obtainable or what?

 

[San]

Arcane Ring (Epic Class item) wouldn't shoot any blast to enemy,please take a look to it

 

[Burndead]

Also, Ultrasafe tele teleported me into the water south of the starting point. Managed to make my way through the creeps and activated the first switch of the Escape quest before meeting the troll quest giver. So, now it is bugged and can't move further on.

 

[SpasMaster]

Also, Ultrasafe tele teleported me into the water south of the starting point. Managed to make my way through the creeps and activated the first switch of the Escape quest before meeting the troll quest giver. So, now it is bugged and can't move further on.

Can you specify the location (screenshot if possible) and the hero you were using?

 

[Burndead]

Can you specify the location (screenshot if possible) and the hero you were using?

Naga Siren. Forgot to add that I did swim to the Western entrance's shores.
The location is: from the burning ship go straight south. There are two obelisks. It got me there.
Edit: Also, Siren's Eye of the Storm doesn't work properly, if not at all.
Edit1: Teleporting to that spot actually allows you to bypass the lvl req. of the Darkwater bay dungeon. Inb4, creeps are strong enough for low level heroes.

 

[Zordrak]

I will try new version. I hope you have a better item storage system now.

 

[SpasMaster]

I will try new version. I hope you have a better item storage system now.

I have a storage system that satisfies the map needs just fine.

 

[Burndead]

What is the purpose of the rare tree boss spawning randomly right next to the Idrassil tree?

 

[San]

someone pls teach me how to deal with the Magical Four Switches to unlock the big gate of Lord Balthas-_-
I already pressed the other three switches,but I duno how to deal with the one inside the rolling stone door.(how to unlock the rolling stone door?)
that's the last objective i haven't complete

 

[Burndead]

someone pls teach me how to deal with the Magical Four Switches to unlock the big gate of Lord Balthas-_-
I already pressed the other three switches,but I duno how to deal with the one inside the rolling stone door.(how to unlock the rolling stone door?)
that's the last objective i haven't complete

You need second unit to put onto the switch.

 

[San]

You need second unit to put onto the switch.

Thanks!

and also,Glyph of Demon Mastery doesn't work,im using Necromancer

 

[Seth]

ugh... high luck in proc-ing lightning glyph mastery causes my computer to crash, r.i.p low performance spec....

 

[Light]

do you have to use a healer hero to solo the game?
with a str/agi hero each encounter with another group of units forces my grunt to go back all the way to a monolith, and if he dies well then it's game over for me.

 

[Ardenian]

do you have to use a healer hero to solo the game?
with a str/agi hero each encounter with another group of units forces my grunt to go back all the way to a monolith, and if he dies well then it's game over for me.

First of all, it is not supposed to be beaten in single player obviously playing it in single player will cause serious problems dealing with bigger creep groups.
You don't have to be healer, some tanks and damage dealers have healing abilities, too.

 

[Seth]

do you have to use a healer hero to solo the game?
with a str/agi hero each encounter with another group of units forces my grunt to go back all the way to a monolith, and if he dies well then it's game over for me.

There is warlock maybe. WHICH WOULD TOOK AGES.

 

[kha_zich]

do you have to use a healer hero to solo the game?
with a str/agi hero each encounter with another group of units forces my grunt to go back all the way to a monolith, and if he dies well then it's game over for me.

You still can buy Ursa in shop>consumable items, who can help you well in early game(he has ability to heal himself to full hp, and reduce attack dmg of nearby enemies).
Before change with gates near 1st shop - for 75% of champions, he was only the way to go further.
Hope it will help you a bit.

 

[Burndead]

A simple question: can I assume all "relic" items have some hidden purpose? Which would be great if that's true.

 

[SpasMaster]

A simple question: can I assume all "relic" items have some hidden purpose? Which would be great if that's true.

Well... yes and no.
-Some Relic items do have a special use.
-Some are Easter Eggs/References to other stuff.
-And others are connected to the map lore somehow. Like the Sword of Feron. It does not have a "special" purpose, but it still isn't just an ordinary item, because it belonged to a character of the map lore.

 

[Ardenian]

A simple question: can I assume all "relic" items have some hidden purpose? Which would be great if that's true.

No, some, like the Puzzlebox of the Old Gods have only lore purpose, they don't have a hidden purpose beside telling some information and being an item. No hidden boss or something similar, sadly.

 

[SpasMaster]

No hidden boss or something similar, sadly.

Some do that, but I can always expand on the idea and give more stuff to existing items for sure!

 

[San]

my friend and I was fighting a doom guard,then the acolytes on the other side starting to heal the doom guard ( this is ok.), but then they pulled my friend to the other side

 

[SpasMaster]

my friend and I was fighting a doom guard,then the acolytes on the other side starting to heal the doom guard ( this is ok.), but then they pulled my friend to the other side

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Unfortunately this is something I have little power over. I cannot know where a Doom Guard would spawn to predict such scenarios.

 

[San]

hm,alright. Just telling,it's not just the doom guard,fighting the felhounds there could happen this too.

 

[Burndead]

Is Maiev's Home interactable and if so, does it contain hidden item or quest?

 

[kha_zich]

Are new champions or stuff planned in this year?

 

[Seth]

could you not insta-kill Warlock when players tries to summon infernal at invisible(fog) area and just make it unsummonable like his Gift Of Sargeras does? it became unexpectably annoying when i try to kite in my heroic insane solo...

 

[jorokadilaka]

@sokoro
great help man
so i just finished a long solo with shaman (my favourite from all versions) and it was tough since i had to save and load every 1 hour cuz it was becomming unplayable from lag
i usually play from time to time when there is new update
here are the things i couldnt manage
1- the ghost key as i understood you need to get the rare drop Elven Stone of the Moon so then u can summon zerash and then u get the gost key
with the ghost key you open the magic fence and u hit the lever to oppen the panda shop gate then u buy the teleporter and teleport inside (rare chance to teleport on correct place?(do i have to stay in front of the door or whenever on the map))i got the nerubian egg the essence and the mushroom so i just need to do that for the recipe

2- i found the treasure map and used it then i got the quest for the scepter of the king but i couldnt find out where is it
3- about the masters chamber-i found the Nozdormu Token (forgot where)but not the Ysera Token and i also didnt get a key of life drop
4 what about the armory? where u get to it and whats there
5 about the tuskar is it only a swim heroes quest?
6 i couldnt find the kings blood this time (found it everytime in last versions)
7 about the rubys found the 2 but not the third (the rare barel drop(is it rare barel drop or specifically barel on the map)) whats the outcome of this?
so i guess i just got unlucky in drop rate (had my fucking treasure chest all the game on and glyph+15%)
if some1 is going to comment on my questions please tell me which of them are connected
thanks and gl im in the garena group and up for a run
update1
2- i found the entrance to the place where is the scepter-there is nothing special about finding it just read the quest and look for a tunnel on the map... then u get the scepter and together with the tiara recipe and diamond u make it .after u make it it is clickable and it "redeems tortured souls" -no clue about that
the light prism is usable in the phoenix sigil item book
read what the prism does and think of places u couldnt find any action to
and found the third ruby its obtainable every game
u need to find all three and light them up in the vault then u get nice item

 

[lukyan]

Hi. Awesome map. But where Forge is located? I can't find it.

 

[Ardenian]

Hi. Awesome map. But where Forge is located? I can't find it.

How far did you play ? It is rather located after mid-game, you won't come there soon.

 

[Burndead]

1- the ghost key as i understood you need to get the rare drop Elven Stone of the Moon so then u can summon zerash and then u get the gost key
with the ghost key you open the magic fence and u hit the lever to oppen the panda shop gate then u buy the teleporter and teleport inside (rare chance to teleport on correct place?(do i have to stay in front of the door or whenever on the map))i got the nerubian egg the essence and the mushroom so i just need to do that for the recipe

11. Using the item on Zerash will kill him and drop the much required key. Also, when you get all 4 ingridients, it combines in a sword called "Dawn". Imo, it isn't worth getting it.

2- i found the treasure map and used it then i got the quest for the scepter of the king but i couldnt find out where is it

22. You already figured out this one.

3- about the masters chamber-i found the Nozdormu Token (forgot where)but not the Ysera Token and i also didnt get a key of life drop

33. You need to open chests in order to get the other token. Just got mine from a chest. And the artifact obtainable with those 2 token is really worth for.

4 what about the armory? where u get to it and whats there

44. You need another teleporter, which is random drop.

5 about the tuskar is it only a swim heroes quest?

55. Tuskar is just a tribute to a co-creator of the map or something like this. Nothing to do with him

6 i couldnt find the kings blood this time (found it everytime in last versions)

66. It's situated behind a magic barrier with 3 old chests inside. 2 Nagas and a Stone guardian are guarding it.

7 about the rubys found the 2 but not the third (the rare barel drop(is it rare barel drop or specifically barel on the map)) whats the outcome of this?

77. Rubies are also useless in my eyes, but it's a nice touch to the game. I like it.

 

[TogeticX]

Hey!

Great map, played it with a friend and we both had fun discovering secrets and so on.

But, around 2/3rds in (i guess? basiclly after the forge) the game just randomly crashes sometimes. If i rember right it was some memory error.
Also, if we try to save after a certian (right now we tried right where the charging stone is) his game crashes. Mine dosnt. Is this just a host/offhost problem?`
It feels like the save game gets "too big" and warcraft decides to make it a memory error.
Sorry if this problem was already helped with, i didnt find anything in this thread.

 

[lukyan]

How far did you play ? It is rather located after mid-game, you won't come there soon.

That I can see:

 

[Burndead]

@lukyan
You need to play more. Relax, you will find it.

 

[San]

What's the meaning of ''No synergy here"? I got instant defeated by all sudden-_-

 

[SpasMaster]

What's the meaning of ''No synergy here"? I got instant defeated by all sudden-_-

You used a cheat code.

 

[San]

You used a cheat code.

Lolwtf No,I inputs nothing in the game,I was just walking ,with 2 grunts and one furbolg, Im using troll berserker
I loaded the game then,and same problem occured in the same place