Staff Changes(?)

[Hakeem]

I wonder if the staff has been questioned a bit too much lately.

Better than not being questioned enough.

 

[~Void~]

Maybe.

One thing I've noticed, though: When a staff member acts loose and relaxed, they are criticized for not being serious about their job. Then, when they start being serious about it, people complain, saying they are too serious and no fun.

 

[Elenai]

One thing I've noticed, though: When a staff member acts loose and relaxed, they are criticized for not being serious about their job. Then, when they start being serious about it, people complain, saying they are too serious and no fun.

Isn't that the truth xD

 

[busterkomo]

Maybe.

One thing I've noticed, though: When a staff member acts loose and relaxed, they are criticized for not being serious about their job. Then, when they start being serious about it, people complain, saying they are too serious and no fun.

I don't think anyone has accused you of being too serious, Void.

 

[PurplePoot]

There are times for seriousness and times for laying back. I was never criticized for either in two years as a moderator, so there has to be some way to go if it's so common with you guys...

 

[~Void~]

You have a point there, but I think setting our standards that high is too unrealistic. It might be okay if our users were more serious, like at WC3C for example, but I think it's rather uncalled for with our lot. Hive is a casual site, and most of our users like it that way.

I hate to beat a dead horse, but I think that's why Dusk and Ghan weren't accepted right away, because they are too serious (for lack of a better word) and most users here feel confronted when someone like that comes into power simply because it's not what they are used to.

 

[PurplePoot]

Yeah, I definitely hear you that people who don't just mess around every once in a while get hell for it. As I said, find the balance, even if it takes a while.

Hell, damaging as it may seem to lay back once in a while, it's actually productive somewhere like here; if people dislike you, they won't cooperate, and thus nothing gets done (or done well if there is no excuse for avoiding it entirely).

 

[Rising_Dusk]

I think it's also worth noting that both Ghan and I are from other websites, so there are other factors at play. I never have and doubt I ever will feel truly comfortable or at home here at the Hive.

 

[Traxamillion]

I think it's also worth noting that both Ghan and I are from other websites, so there are other factors at play. I never have and doubt I ever will feel truly comfortable or at home here at the Hive.

Unfortunately people here are'nt very accepting, its rather sad. But then again you have to make your way if no one gives you the oppurtunity, sometimes you have to have a "fuck off" attitude.

 

[Rui]

I don't think anyone has accused you of being too serious, Void.

He has just been promoted, give him time!

You have a point there, but I think setting our standards that high is too unrealistic. It might be okay if our users were more serious, like at WC3C for example, but I think it's rather uncalled for with our lot. Hive is a casual site, and most of our users like it that way.

I hate to beat a dead horse, but I think that's why Dusk and Ghan weren't accepted right away, because they are too serious (for lack of a better word) and most users here feel confronted when someone like that comes into power simply because it's not what they are used to.

I like the Hive's average on standards as it is. Newbies are not arrogant, and unfortunately, intelligence, knowledge and talent mean, most of the times, arrogance.

Ghan is a member of various sites, I guess he was more prepared than Dusk for what they both would find here. On the other hand, people who grow with this community know what to expect.

 

[Vegavak]

Newbies are not arrogant, and unfortunately, intelligence, knowledge and talent mean, most of the times, arrogance.

I disagree.

There is a distinction between confidence and arrogance. As well as distinguishing between the two.

As far as arrogance goes, idiots are in the lead, with newbies trailing slightly, followed by mistaken veterans.

 

[~Void~]

I disagree.

There is a distinction between confidence and arrogance. As well as distinguishing between the two.

As far as arrogance goes, idiots are in the lead, with newbies trailing slightly, followed by mistaken veterans.

Confidence often means arrogance, and it's true. If you're confident with your talent, you're proud of it, and most people enjoy letting other people know about it (ie bragging) and take criticism bitterly as if it were an insult.

 

[PurplePoot]

Arrogance is half bullshit meant to make the decent people feel better; when someone says they are, say, a good modeler (and they are), the person just says "they're being arrogant!"

But the other half is a problem, yes.

 

[BearMan]

This has sort of become a thread where the staff defends themselves.

 

[Shados]

Confidence is believing you can do something, or are good at something. Arrogance is believing you are better at it than many/most/all other people. There is a clear distinction.

 

[~Void~]

Of the words, sure. But that doesn't even matter, the point is that very confident people are often arrogant.

 

[ike_ike]

Normally arrogant people have egos that outweigh their talent. This applies to several users on the forum, but I shall not mention them here.

ike_ike
ike's alt account

 

[MasterHaosis]

Yeah true that.