So... will people still play WC3?

[Kingz]

I'd actually prefer Warcraft III because of the challenge it provides with the editor... Rather than Blizzard providing everything...

Blizzard provided us with a powerfull tool indeed, too bad it is a little complicated to use...

Anyway WC3 modding is ok but people will probably stop modding it for about 2-3 years or so.

 

[The World Is Flat]

The GE is more of a chalange than WE. unfortunatly.

 

[MindTooth]

Since my computer sucks, I am bound to playing WarCraft III still.

 

[WherewolfTherewolf]

The GE is more of a chalange than WE. unfortunatly.

Lol, yes in a counterproductive sort of way

 

[Miss_Foxy]

I just hope that we'll get to keep this part of the forum alive...

 

[The World Is Flat]

Yes... very counterproductive.

 

[Grey Nightmare]

Starcraft II will just never have that place in my heart, as good as it is - it was wc3 that first guided me into the mod community, therefore it shall forever remain the superior and I'll find myself going back to it time and time again, I'm sure.

 

[Miss_Foxy]

I'm glad to hear that some people still'd help make Warcraft III alive And I suppose when the dust is all settled between which one's better, both will have a balanced number of players...

 

[RaijinSpark]

Err.. I have StarCraft II, and addicted to it, but that doesn't mean I will stop in WarCraft III, both game rocks, and there's nothing wrong being active at both. right?

 

[The World Is Flat]

Nothing at all. I'm already done with war3. got into modding, but never finished a map, sc2 wil be my modding place.

 

[Miss_Foxy]

I'll still be quite active in Warcraft III though, because I'm barely halfway into its basics of modding...

PS: Somebody help me!

 

[Super-Sheep]

sc2 didnt get me

and mapping in sc2 is... well u have to mod for real and it takes time, but in wc3 if u want to do a little map u can do it in 1 day unlikely in sc2 its weeks

 

[The World Is Flat]

Not at all, weeks to learn the interface, but its, imo, more powerful and easier. (one you learn the lingo.)

 

[WarManta]

SC2 isn't the place for modders and mapmakers but it is for gamers, I would go into detail why WC3 is better for modders and mapmakers but I only have to say one thing for now and that is WC3 can mod BNet just from a map while SC2 can not as well if I want to make my own projectile systems then I can only do so in WC3.( the point variable can't be moved or destroyed which limits SC2 heavily.)

 

[Miss_Foxy]

I kind of agree a little...

 

[Numerion]

I agree with TWIF...once you learn it, you know it...

Just look at WE...before that people used to mod games in notepad and they thought that WE is insanelly hard and stuff...now where we are ...

 

[Rui]

SC2 isn't the place for modders and mapmakers but it is for gamers, I would go into detail why WC3 is better for modders and mapmakers but I only have to say one thing for now and that is WC3 can mod BNet just from a map while SC2 can not as well if I want to make my own projectile systems then I can only do so in WC3.( the point variable can't be moved or destroyed which limits SC2 heavily.)

SC2 isn't the place for modders and mapmakers but it is for gamers. Therefore, the SC2 melee game is really great. You think so? Because the melee game left me moderately upset and displeased. It was a different type of game, sure, but compared to WC3? In WC3 you can actually micro your units, whilst in SC2 you can barely do that because everyone's playing at Faster speed. Not to mention other things that, despite other people trying to convince me otherwise, I believe make the game monotonous.
Also, you can't destroy a point variable? Did you come across such a limitation or did you read this somewhere else? Because I really can't believe they left such a thing out. Anyway, if you did stumble across this, I can only hope this is a thing to include in the final product (reminding that what we were given was the Beta).

 

[WherewolfTherewolf]

Actually they removed leaks in Sc2 - probably in their pursuit to element custom coding

Though this is something good, there's a wealth of other reasons to dislike Sc2's GE, but hopefully they'll come to their sense and stop raping the game by release.

 

[mrzwach]

SC2's object editor takes time. I was able to start doing pretty much everything rather easily after about a week or two of using it, just understand that something being difficult doesn't make it bad.

On the subject of custom coding, C syntax is easier to use imo, though the lack of in-editor scripting is saddening. Don't really mind that anymore now though, as I have Moonlite to do that with.

A good number of the problems with the GE (ie banks beign so limited) are likely/hopefully beta exclusive issues, so meh. On a side note, I created an entire projectile system for my own use already, so dunno what you are smoking..

 

[Miss_Foxy]

I have a feeling somebody's going to start a Starcraft II game in Warcraft III...

 

[Numerion]

I have a feeling that someone is already doing so ...

 

[The_Key]

I have a feeling, that we need another warcraft rts?

 

[Noobius]

What is it with you people and your gut instincts!!! People started creating SC2-WC3 coversions ages ago!

 

[WherewolfTherewolf]

What is it with you people and your gut instincts!!! People started creating SC2-WC3 coversions ages ago!

Doesn't mean their any better.
Wc3 runs better on my comp so I think I'll stick with it.

Summarizing this whole thread in a few statements:
-No, wc3 will not die, sc2 is a continuation of the sc series, not a wc3 replacement
-Yes, some people will leave wc3 for sc2, but that doesn't mean all of them
-No, just because sc2 has shiny new graphics and a more powerful editor doesn't mean everybody thinks it's better
-No, no one can come to an agreement whether or not sc2 is a better game or not

 

[Bloodbane7]

Is that a Starcraft II link I see at the top of the Hive. . .

No, I must be seeing things.

 

[The World Is Flat]

Sc2 is simply a DIFFERENT modding platform.

 

[elfian]

SC2 won't get pirated any time soon. Therefore it won't kill WC3 any time soon either

 

[Numerion]

SC2 won't get pirated any time soon. Therefore it won't kill WC3 any time soon either

how did you get that idea? (just look at some sites...I can say that even google gives good results...)

 

[elfian]

how did you get that idea? (just look at some sites...I can say that even google gives good results...)

Nope. As far as I remember Blizzard already owned the guy who tried to develop a private server. They are serious business this time. No shit.

 

[Marshmalo]

Garena's a private sever and judging by how many people are online dosnt look like a Blizzard are gunna own it.

 

[elfian]

Garena's a private sever and judging by how many people are online dosnt look like a Blizzard are gunna own it.

?! What are you talking about ?!

Garena does not support Starcraft II and is never going to. You CANNOT play Starcraft II over LAN, therefore you CANNOT play it via Garena.

 

[redmarine]

Garena's a private sever and judging by how many people are online dosnt look like a Blizzard are gunna own it.

They tried to sue but found out that their license didn't prevent that kind of piracy. They basically gave up.

 

[Marshmalo]

They tried to sue but found out that their license didn't prevent that kind of piracy. They basically gave up.

lawl that is kinda funny, that huge page of license stuff they make you accept everytime u install and it dosnt even cover Garena, bet their lawers have worked on a new one for SC2, its so lame

 

[Noobius]

Still the fact still stands Starcraft 2 could be overshadowed by all those other great games out there. Yes I'm sticking with WC but I still like the Starcraft series. And about all that liscence stuff. I spent ages trying to understand the first few things stated in it...

 

[Anthony Alexander]

I have so many video games right now, many of which I haven't even beaten, many of which I want to play through again, that I'm probably not going to be buying any new video games for a long time.

 

[TLW]

Will be sticking to WC3 as Sci-fi just isnt my thing.

 

[Dragonite The 1337]

WCIII Is gonna stay alive for a long time after SCII comes out, think about it. the galaxy editor is complex, I hear importing/exporting is harder, and good models will take a while, so not too many different genres of maps will be there straight from the start.

 

[redmarine]

WCIII Is gonna stay alive for a long time after SCII comes out, think about it. the galaxy editor is complex, I hear importing/exporting is harder, and good models will take a while, so not too many different genres of maps will be there straight from the start.

Lots of maps were made during the beta and are compatible with the final release. Expect things to evolve rappidly because lots of wc3 mappers will move on.

 

[cl0s3dy]

I already abandoned my Warcraft 3 Projects and started on Starcraft II... The Editor is waaay better !!!!

 

[Hero_Lief]

StarCraft II is out, and I'm still playing Warcraft III constantly. 'nuff said.

 

[WherewolfTherewolf]

This threads gone on long enough with the same posts every time, can we close it already?

How the posts go:
-Wc3 player: Yes, wc3 will still be alive for *state some reason*
-Sc2 Promised land seeker: No, Sc2 is the future, Sc2 will come in a wave of goodness and technology searing wc3 to a crispy brown.
-Wc3 overprotective/Sc2 hater: Sc2 sucks, it's editor makes making things impossible (I'm too lazy to learn it) / Bnet 2.0 is bloated with terrible ideas / I just hate it
-Sc2 will pwn all person: Come on guyz, Sc2 is already out, get ur lazy asses in gear and buy it

and so on, so forth

 

[Hero_Lief]

Fair enough. I agree, then, let's get this closed.

 

[Noobius]

Some people might be less fortunate than you guys. Although they want Starcraft 2 so bad, they can't get it or they want it but they cant afford a PC good enough for hardcore Starcraft 2 gaming. Not me of course, I already have it. But just condidering the lil' guy.

 

[Aslit]

any way to convert war3 models to sc2? i have 3ds 2011 but it wont read the model formal, name of any plugin needed or other program?

 

[Hero_Lief]

Try checking SC2Mapster. Also, reviving an old thread to talk about something unrelated to said thread probably is against the rules somewhere. Be warned.

 

[best_player_88]

Do you think SC2 will kill off the WC3 comunity? If so is there even any piont in making any more maps now?

I hope not as SC2 just dosnt apeal to me so I for one will still be playing WC3!

Since SC2 was published the number of warcraft players became as if it was "zero at any time" and there are barely players at all

 

[elfian]

Since SC2 was published the number of warcraft players became as if it was "zero at any time" and there are barely players at all

Bullshit. In Garena I didn't notice any kind of player drop. Atleast in the national servers.

 

[best_player_88]

Bullshit. In Garena I didn't notice any kind of player drop. Atleast in the national servers.

See the different in the gamers which are in total bnet and in warcraft.

 

[elfian]

Blizzard is just one of the servers you can play Warcraft III on ;D

 

[-Kobas-]

Dude 5.000.000 or more people play Dota per week ^^

You cannot be 100% sure, but it's probably around 5 million around the world.

And dota is only 1 map
If only 0.001% of that number play any other map that is 5.000 people per map ^^

wc3 won't die so easily