Rune System Explained

[CloudMax]

This is some old stuff that i have missed totally.
This is pretty damn important for our spells and will give it an even better d3 feeling if we manage to make a rune system.
YouTube - Diablo III - BlizzCon 2008: Panel: Runes
They explain how pretty much everything works in detail, maybe we should take a closer look into it and see if we can make that to?
The inventory system is done now you know, just items need to be done. So what about moving forward and start make runes now?



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YouTube - Diablo III Blizzcon 2008: Panel: Skills Part 3
Better explain on spells

YouTube - Diablo III - BlizzCon 2008: Panel: Death Effects
Different death animations, kinda funny x)

 

[Sixen]

The Rune System was pretty clever, I like how they set it up. It can be explained as a "socket" system for spells. I was able to play D3 at BlizzCon, keke.

 

[Phalanx]

I liked the mutistrike skull of flame the best. The runes will be a nice touch to the game.

 

[0zk]

you know i can't really tell how to make the runes work without seen the fullscreen inventory first... maybe it can add some...(don't kill me for this) DotA like orb effects...i know dota is a totally diferent game but what i am talking about here...is the mechanics...maybe you can't stack rune effects in one skill...and they can...or increase the efect of the current skill (make monguls stronger, lighting arc jump more times just reapeating the obvius) or give it a twist....elemental locust?? xD just an idea...

 

[dab]

Now, what im thinking is a spellbook, where you have the rune spells/icons, but theyr require upgrades before activating, like even tho you have the spell Web, you cant cast it before you got the upgrade. I am then thinking of adding it in that way, so the player alwasy knows which runes he has. The runes are ofc supposed to drop in then map, but as rewards(ex: you pick up gold sack, and you get gold), so that once you've picked it up, it is not a item, but a pure upgrade. i might link a map later to demonstrate, right now im creating the cursor.

EDIT: Map. Has only two runes, Multistrike and Striking. No spells are created, as i am just giving a demo of what i think would be a idea.

 

[CloudMax]

I dont think we should talk about how we will make the system in the map.
This was more to talk about the actual system for the game becouse im pretty damn sure that we will use the system i have up in my head when i have time and feel like making it, lul.

 

[dab]

I dont think we should talk about how we will make the system in the map.
This was more to talk about the actual system for the game becouse im pretty damn sure that we will use the system i have up in my head when i have time and feel like making it, lul.

Yeah, your right. Especially the multistrike for Firebomb Before it was "BOOM! Enemies dead", now it gonna be like "BOOM! BOOM! BOOM! WTF? Wheres all the mobs?"(or atleast that is how i understood that movie)

 

[CloudWolf]

hmmm... If not the full rune-system, we could always create our own version of it For example, on the skill tree we could have a little socket next to certain spells where a rune could be dropped Depending on the rune, the spell could be slightly different

If we had 3 rune types, it just means we would have to make 3 variations of the major spells

Just an idea

 

[dab]

hmmm... If not the full rune-system, we could always create our own version of it For example, on the skill tree we could have a little socket next to certain spells where a rune could be dropped Depending on the rune, the spell could be slightly different

If we had 3 rune types, it just means we would have to make 3 variations of the major spells

Just an idea

Sounds great. If you implement that, we would have a whole new game.

 

[dansaDisco]

hmmm... If not the full rune-system, we could always create our own version of it For example, on the skill tree we could have a little socket next to certain spells where a rune could be dropped Depending on the rune, the spell could be slightly different

If we had 3 rune types, it just means we would have to make 3 variations of the major spells

Just an idea

Yes, that sounds really nice

 

[Snikkers91]

hmmm... If not the full rune-system, we could always create our own version of it For example, on the skill tree we could have a little socket next to certain spells where a rune could be dropped Depending on the rune, the spell could be slightly different

If we had 3 rune types, it just means we would have to make 3 variations of the major spells

Just an idea

That would be nice indeed It means that you actually implement a tech/skill tree, too? Adding this beneath your full screen inventory, this would give the players a way new chance to have an individual character and it increases the replayability!

I'm so excited about this Hopefully it won't make the save codes explode ...

 

[CloudWolf]

That would be nice indeed It means that you actually implement a tech/skill tree, too? Adding this beneath your full screen inventory, this would give the players a way new chance to have an individual character and it increases the replayability!

I'm so excited about this Hopefully it won't make the save codes explode ...

I think we're abandoning the idea of having save/load codes Its just not feasible xD As you said in your post, the codes would be huge making them awkward :S

However, While hero-saving might not be possible, I may implement some sort of "Rank" system e.g. a higher rank could give access to some extra abilities etc

Theres no plans yet though so im all open to ideas

 

[CloudMax]

I think we're abandoning the idea of having save/load codes Its just not feasible xD As you said in your post, the codes would be huge making them awkward :S

However, While hero-saving might not be possible, I may implement some sort of "Rank" system e.g. a higher rank could give access to some extra abilities etc

Theres no plans yet though so im all open to ideas

I gonna make a kinda off-topic reply now but...
About the save/load system.
We could save status things like this:

Kills (just for fun )
Revives (using an item to ress)
Deaths (Kinda cool to archieve good rank with low death nr.)
Most used hero
Least used hero
Finished runs (playing through the map)
PvP Kills/Deaths


Also, if we use a system to save the hero, it isnt much that needs to be saved actually.
List of stuff that needs to be saved:
Level
Hero
Account name (So you cant share the code)
Equiped Items
Save slots - Optional (just an idea, 3 slots in the bag will be different from the others, and that difference is that you save the items in these slots)

That is all you need if im not wrong, and that would make a code that is as long as the codes in all other RPGs, if not shorter.

But i rather save my status then my actual hero becouse it would just be a mess to move the hero over different maps and the status system becouse that is optional

 

[Snikkers91]

Also, if we use a system to save the hero, it isnt much that needs to be saved actually.
List of stuff that needs to be saved:
Level
Hero
Account name (So you cant share the code)
Equiped Items
Save slots - Optional (just an idea, 3 slots in the bag will be different from the others, and that difference is that you save the items in these slots)

That is all you need if im not wrong, and that would make a code that is as long as the codes in all other RPGs, if not shorter.

Well, with implemented skill trees and allocated runes for spells, the save code might not be that short. It really would depend on how big the skill trees are

I would be really sad if there's no thing like a save code for your hero, but I understand that it is hard to manage a hero system for more than one map. Just think of the necessary changes for a single update, you would have to fix it in every map. A status system would not have to be updated very often I think, but I'm not sure about that rank like system ... depends on its kind.

A dedicated thread about a rank system could help to get some different ideas together, what do you think?

 

[CloudWolf]

Well, with implemented skill trees and allocated runes for spells, the save code might not be that short. It really would depend on how big the skill trees are

I would be really sad if there's no thing like a save code for your hero, but I understand that it is hard to manage a hero system for more than one map. Just think of the necessary changes for a single update, you would have to fix it in every map. A status system would not have to be updated very often I think, but I'm not sure about that rank like system ... depends on its kind.

A dedicated thread about a rank system could help to get some different ideas together, what do you think?

Why not I'll make a thread on the suggestions board about it Rather than discussing it here