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I get the idea behind making the player more hyped, but honestly, releasing less demos would rob you of player input during development, which could make the end product a bit buggy and possibly unbalanced (*insert scared Aridon emoji here*). I'm sure you'll do a good job at testing the maps, but there are always things you may overlook or miss.
In terms of the orc race mechanic, why are you unhappy with it? While it is not what it should have been, I can't say it's bad.
 

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In terms of the orc race mechanic, why are you unhappy with it? While it is not what it should have been, I can't say it's bad.
It is not "bad" in my opinion, I am just unhappy that it is just a shadow of its former self (pun totally intended).
It gives you a lot of units and great combinations but I would like it to have something more than that, to feel more like a new mechanic.
 
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It is not "bad" in my opinion, I am just unhappy that it is just a shadow of its former self (pun totally intended).
It gives you a lot of units and great combinations but I would like it to have something more than that, to feel more like a new mechanic.

I kind of get what you mean. The Dominion's mechanic is basically having access to units from numerous faces, that is just about it.
 

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I get the idea of releasing a short demo and then focusing on the end product, but I feel like you shouldnt abandon your old way of crustesting stuff using us, the hivers.

I dare say it'll make the production even harder for you, since you'll have to deal with all the issues in a big chunk, rather than chapter by chapter.
At the end of the day, its up to you Shar.
 
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I get the idea of releasing a short demo and then focusing on the end product, but I feel like you shouldnt abandon your old way of crustesting stuff using us, the hivers.

Not a demo, but maybe a... new trailer?...
 
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Shar is it some kind of meme in aftermath made by mr.Kaskrin Time will tell if she's usful or not but that doesn't matter | shouldnt it be usefull
 
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Shur, what about Vermon, Erganoth, former ruler of Souleater legion, true personality of Largoth and some other characters, who didn't take part in events during first and second book? (Too much demons, don't you think?) Could we see them in another project, like demon spin-off, sequel or prequel book with Lizara or Erganoth as a main character (depending on who you like more Dark One or Demon God)?

It seems to me that such a project is needed for a long time. A couple of years ago you wrote that you were planning something like these.
 
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I don't know if anyone had noticed, but I'll still tell it, in the first human book, in the mission where we help gardon explore the Pearl of Lor, after completing the main mission, one can be returned down that same path, the fountain is no longer invulnerable , so you can destroy it, I don't know if that's planned or there's only one mistake there
 
I don't know if anyone had noticed, but I'll still tell it, in the first human book, in the mission where we help gardon explore the Pearl of Lor, after completing the main mission, one can be returned down that same path, the fountain is no longer invulnerable , so you can destroy it, I don't know if that's planned or there's only one mistake there

Looks like bug to me.
 
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The beginning of the story was lit. :ogre_hurrhurr:
Anyway, I get why Dorten would semi-trust Aridon, but this was the same guy that ordered the killing of royal troops at the Gate of Hell and the person who is largely responsible for Toraes' disappearance. I expected Dorten to be a bit more stubborn and bring up these points as to why he wouldn't trust him at all.
At least I can agree with Aridon saying that his prophecy is most likely incorrect. Gardon would most likely just force a high ranking royal of Kerrel to sign an unfair treaty where he just gives him the kingdom. No mercenaries or sending armies required.

black thorn -> Blackthorn
counter invasion -> counter-invasion
meassures -> measures
 
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The beginning of the story was lit. :ogre_hurrhurr:
Anyway, I get why Dorten would semi-trust Aridon, but this was the same guy that ordered the killing of royal troops at the Gate of Hell and the person who is largely responsible for Toraes' disappearance. I expected Dorten to be a bit more stubborn and bring up these points as to why he wouldn't trust him at all.
At least I can agree with Aridon saying that his prophecy is most likely incorrect. Gardon would most likely just force a high ranking royal of Kerrel to sign an unfair treaty where he just gives him the kingdom. No mercenaries or sending armies required.

Well, given that his country is in a cold war with Gardon, who is not exactly a trustworthy guy, Dorten's paranoia has increased to the point that he is willing to trust an undead. At least Aridon is providing an aid of somesort, which makes him the lesser of two evils.

Of course, Dorten's former alliance with Gardon was similar to this, so basically Dorten is simply switching morally shady allies.
 
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It is not "bad" in my opinion, I am just unhappy that it is just a shadow of its former self (pun totally intended).
It gives you a lot of units and great combinations but I would like it to have something more than that, to feel more like a new mechanic.
I don't no whether it was mentioned above, but what about giving units of the Dominion race auras that buff members of any other race, thus making player to combine units of different races? At least, when i hear the words like brother's in arms it seems like units helping and buffing each other.
 
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Probably cant pull that one off. in the old times we used to turtle up until we can build an op army to rat the enemy base :D doesnt work anymore tho
 
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Sorry but, you should give more details, i mean, you are stuck? what you just did? which part of the map you get stuck?... i mean more details...

I can't play that chapter.. It's just my screen go black and nothing happen
 
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I do have a few things in my oven. ;)

For the time being, I will just let you know that I intended to add some short stories at some point in the next few days sometime.

Then leave it there until is perfect :)

Good to know that more short stories will come soon.
 
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Just read the new short story

"...destroyed the friendship..."

No Zarin, you destroyed the friendship. While Gardon did give you reasons to do so, it was the Dwarves that rejected to join the Ironfist and instead side with the Golden Guard.

"Who knew how long it would be until the Demons would invade again?"

Oh, so now you are concerned about the demons? Maybe you should have thought about that when you sided with van Durce, the guy that wanted to leave the entire continent to its fate.

"Zarin raised his hand and immediatly silenced his daughter by doing so. She was getting ahead of herself, she had not even waited for him to give permission to continue. While this was something a father COULD forgive, a high king certainly could not. She looked back on the ground, not saying a word. Zarin, on the other hand, slightly raised his voice to highlight his discontent."

Wow, Zarin, what a good way to treat your daughter...
Let's hope that it doesn't come to bite you later on, right?

"Such a thing was impossible. Neither Zarin nor any other king had forgotten that Dorten and his followers had actively supported Gardon during the Second Voidwar – not only in the war but also politically by accepting him as king of two kingdoms and as if that had not been enough, accepting the return of the Black Dragons, allowing him to bring back Zyainor! An unforgiveable crime. A human king might have forgotten or forgiven this act of betrayal, but no dwarf. After the Humans of the Kingdoms had now, for the second time, allied with the Black Dragons, most Dwarven rulers had little doubt that the Humans of Zyainor and the Kingdoms – what still remained of them anyway – had proven that their kind would NEVER be in a position where they could be accepted as allies or even trade partners ever again. And so, Zarin returned to his thoughts."

Gee, why did Dorten choose to side with Gardon, I wonder. It is not like van Durce gave MORE THAN ONE reason for him to do so, right?
Let's see:
-Act like the douche he is
-Commence a coup on a neighboring kingdom
-Support said coup in a war against not only the Ironfist but against the other kingdoms as well
-Decide to remove all Imperial support on the continent, no longer caring if the Demons were to overrun it and kill everyone living on it
Plus, Dorten wasn't aware that Gardon wanted to recreate the kingdom of Zyainor until it was too late for him to do anything about it.

Zarin, you were wrong in supporting van Durce over Gardon and now you are wrong in not supporting Dorten. So, go ahead, stay in your caves being a lousy father while Zyainor takes over the entire continent, and next thing you know, Gardon will come and deal with both you and the rest of your kind like you deserve. I at least am certain that your daughter will be a more reasonable ruler than you are. Let's hope that you, in your stubborness, won't drag the rest of the Dwarves along with you to the grave.
 
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Zarin should be a bit smarter. His rejection of an alliance will lead to his people perishing sooner rather than later. His refusal to listen to his daughter just shows he's become a hardheaded coconut. He can, of course, wait for an ice meteor to drop on Gardon during a random battle and kill him, but it isn't happening soon. :p

the morning." he said. -> the morning," he said.
forgiveness." she said. -> forgiveness," she said.
As daughter of the high king -> As the daughter of the high king
Still, as responsible daughter -> Still, as a responsible daughter
your well-being." she said. -> your well-being," she said.
immediatly -> immediately
happen again." she whispered -> happen again," she whispered
unforgiveable -> unforgivable
 

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"Who knew how long it would be until the Demons would invade again?"

Oh, so now you are concerned about the demons? Maybe you should have thought about that when you sided with van Durce, the guy that wanted to leave the entire continent to its fate.
To be fair, when the two allied, van Durce no longer wanted that.
"Zarin raised his hand and immediatly silenced his daughter by doing so. She was getting ahead of herself, she had not even waited for him to give permission to continue. While this was something a father COULD forgive, a high king certainly could not. She looked back on the ground, not saying a word. Zarin, on the other hand, slightly raised his voice to highlight his discontent."

Wow, Zarin, what a good way to treat your daughter...
Let's hope that it doesn't come to bite you later on, right?
It's less of him being an asshole father, it is him being a traditionalistic high king.
I get where you come from, though.

I at least am certain that your daughter will be a more reasonable ruler than you are.
I mean, more open to new ideas, yeah, but standing up to Zyainor seems like an impossible task for the other mortal realms, doesn't it?

His refusal to listen to his daughter just shows he's become a hardheaded coconut.
You can still use a hard head as a ram! :p
He can, of course, wait for an ice meteor to drop on Gardon during a random battle and kill him, but it isn't happening soon. :p
:D

the morning." he said. -> the morning," he said.
forgiveness." she said. -> forgiveness," she said.
As daughter of the high king -> As the daughter of the high king
Still, as responsible daughter -> Still, as a responsible daughter
your well-being." she said. -> your well-being," she said.
immediatly -> immediately
happen again." she whispered -> happen again," she whispered
unforgiveable -> unforgivable
Thanks, fixing that!
 
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To be fair, when the two allied, van Durce no longer wanted that.

Ok, but he only chose to do this after the Emperor (Largoth) decided to leave the Golden Guard on the continent.
Basically van Durce was like "We are ok letting a boat sink, as long we are not in it of course."

It's less of him being an asshole father, it is him being a traditionalistic high king.
I get where you come from, though.

An unreasonable and stubborn king that refuses to listen to advices from his own daughter, one which he treats harshly. People in the medieval times got killed for far less.

I can already give a prediction. Zyainor will inevitably come to deal with the Dwarves, his daughter will plead him to bend the knee, but Zarin obviously will refuse and say something like "I would rather see my entire kingdom be destroyed than watch it being submitted to Gardon" and then the daughter and her supporters decide to kill him, not wanting to see their brethren suffer simply because Zarin was too stubborn to listen to reason.

I mean, more open to new ideas, yeah, but standing up to Zyainor seems like an impossible task for the other mortal realms, doesn't it?

At least is better than just staying in the caves, watching Zyainor taking over everything. Because guess what Zarin, once Gardon is done conquering the rest of the Kingdoms, what exactly stops him from deciding to deal with the Dwarves? Nothing!

Gardon will have the numbers, technology, magic, support and dragons to mop the floor with the Dwarves.
Even worse, Gardon might even ask the Dominion for help, because I am sure Amari and the orcs would gladly like to settle the score with the Dwarves after they killed Rangul.
 

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Zarin obviously will refuse and say something like "I would rather see my entire kingdom be destroyed than watch it being submitted to Gardon"
He would indeed rather see it burned down than, as he'd put it, "suffer the fate of the Elves".

At least is better than just staying in the caves, watching Zyainor taking over everything. Because guess what Zarin, once Gardon is done conquering the rest of the Kingdoms, what exactly stops him from deciding to deal with the Dwarves? Nothing!

Gardon will have the numbers, technology, magic, support and dragons to mop the floor with the Dwarves.
Even worse, Gardon might even ask the Dominion for help, because I am sure Amari and the orcs would gladly like to settle the score with the Dwarves after they killed Rangul.
Zarin's rule certainly is up for some *interesting* times ahead, don't you think?
 
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He would indeed rather see it burned down than, as he'd put it, "suffer the fate of the Elves".

He most likely would do stuff like scorched earth tactics, order his men to fight to the last and even prepare explosives to bury entire cities in hopes of dragging as many Ironfists as possible...
I bet some will eventually get fed up and decide to get rid of him.

Zarin's rule certainly is up for some *interesting* times ahead, don't you think?

Yeah, too bad that he is leading his entire people into dark times.
 
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I really like your campaigns, Shar Dundred. I just love how everything is crafted. There are some questions I would like to ask about, however.
Do you have any plans regarding the Demon campaign? They are one of my favorite races so far. From characters, if possible in future spin-offs, is there any possibility of seeing the interaction between Ornasion and Lisara, and how Lisara was banished? Those are really interesting to see. Rahandir's human form? Dark One and Demon God appearances? Why Lady Meya is so... nightmarish-looking while the character sheet mentioned her as 'using her looks to seduce beautiful young women and men whatever way she wished'?
Your works are real masterpieces I must say. And, I'm staying tuned for Second Undead Book. Best Regards.
 
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Gather around the campfires of Salria where a thousand Orcs have burned children, gather around. Let me tell you a story, where everyone's favourite Father, the bringer of gifts for all, Father Redfist himself, saved Arkain Christmas by defeating the evil green grinch that caused trouble all year round, Rangul.
Once upon a time, the Orcs were very bad boys. They always did bad things. Father Redfist saw this and did nothing. Unlike his evil counterpart, Kramparidon, who punished them in ways I can't describe, Father Redfist decided to teach them a lesson in a very different way.
Unfortunately, the Orcs never learned. Worst of all, the evil madman leader raider stealer bad things doing grinch himself, Rangul, was not happy. He had everything he wanted, but getting a gift from Father Redfist, he never did. He devised a plan. In the mystical kingdom land of Laplor, Father Redfist's factory was. There, every gift that was ever delivered to everyone was created. Rangul, the ruiner of happiness wanted them all. He prepared his party and set out to find the factory. After 4 days and one Kramparidon frown at the coincidence, he found it. At first, he raided nearly everything, but then, a change of heart happened. He wanted absolutely everything. So he took one of Redfist's girl helpers too. Her name was Vanessa and the entire world was going to get engulfed in the red happiness that was Father Redfist after he found out about it.
One might think he was angry, but unlike a certain Volarian guy, he would never be. He was just... disappointed, for the lack of a better word.
Father Redfist gathered his legions of red friends and helpers and even made some dwarven friends along the way and began his search for the grinch himself, Rangul...
And he found him in a few days. Getting constantly chased by demons, humans and Kramparidon himself in addition to getting help from the Shadow of Arkain Christmas past quickly blows your cover, doesn't it?
So there it was, the clash of the best dad ever and the biggest happiness ruiner ever. Father Redfist of course, was not happy with everything that Rangul did to him. Winter practically ended when Father Redfist saw Rangul. He was just that "happy" that the snow itself melted from all of Arkain.
- "Rangul you've been a very bad boy!" said Redfist
- "So?" said Rangul
- "Oh, it's nothing, I'll just use a little bit of violence this time", said Redfist
- "And?" said Rangul
- "Prepare for my exploding in your face fireworks attack", said Redfist
- "Wait, no...."
And that's how Father Redfist saved Arkain Christmas. For extra details on what happens next, please play Legends of Arkain, SOB. Or maybe don't, because, let's just say that I missed a few small details. They're nothing special, so please, don't! You'll thank me later.
 
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really love the legends of arkain campaigns, Aside from fun gameplay the story is really good, but im kinda wondering about Thanok’s backstories and even Gardon. Like the several times in the stories some characters would say something like “ Is that Thanok? The person i’ve been hearing dark tales about? It made me wonder on the “ Dark Tales “ and the backstory of Thanok or even the origins of the Ironfist. So maybe add these “ Tales “ in the 2nd undead book or maybe add it to the tales of arkain.
 
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really love the legends of arkain campaigns, Aside from fun gameplay the story is really good, but im kinda wondering about Thanok’s backstories and even Gardon. Like the several times in the stories some characters would say something like “ Is that Thanok? The person i’ve been hearing dark tales about? It made me wonder on the “ Dark Tales “ and the backstory of Thanok or even the origins of the Ironfist. So maybe add these “ Tales “ in the 2nd undead book or maybe add it to the tales of arkain.

Gardon is the nephew of van Durce, the brother of the Emperor and the pupil of Lord Brian.

Thanok is not a human, if you still hadn't noticed it. He is a Black Dragon in disguise that served as kind of an emissary sent by the Dragon Queen to help Gardon in recrating the kingdom of Zyainor.
 
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