Round Table of Arkain

[Jayborino]

Starting a different topic here for round table: what are folks' favorite mission/s from the previous books?

For me, I think it was Long Live the Queen, but that is likely because I saw several choices all come together in a positive way and my allies all came together in a great way. Had I not done things a specific way previously, I suspect it would not have been as exciting.

I also quite liked the naval play in the final GG mission, which also had an interesting payoff from a previous choice even if it was mostly worthless because of the base placement, haha.

Last thing I wanted to say, completely unrelated, is I hope all the effort I put in around sparing Salomar's base in the FOB bears some fruit, but I'm not holding my breath

 

[Hardric62]

Last thing I wanted to say, completely unrelated, is I hope all the effort I put in around sparing Salomar's base in the FOB bears some fruit, but I'm not holding my breath

Quick question Jay, would you want the (beginning of an) answer here, or total no-spoil before starting the mission?

Amongst the missions I preferred, I'd say the one where you kill Retka, the Ironfist's last mission and the defense of the Purificator. Despite the hellish difficulty, I always ha a preference for macro maps, and retking this city block after block, setting up trebuchets until killing Retka, or finally taking the fight to the Demons' lands after defending the Purificator as it obliterates your enemies one after another are all most satisfying maps.

 

[Daffa]

"I'm expecting more from a place called the Gates of Hell." - Brian

Practically one I enjoyed the most, and Long Live the Queen. I'd say Bloodbath (Undead finale) is good too.

Orc Book has no particular interest.

I also like FHB finale (Betrayal) and Gardon's path mission.

 

[Kasrkin]

 

[Shar Dundred]

WIP TIME!

Hidden

 

[Klaus-47]

Shamans need a rework of their spell lineup. Nobody's gonna have a reason to build them once they get mystics.

 

[Shar Dundred]

Take a look at this please, everyone: Heirs of Zyainor [SPOILER]
I'd love to see some participation on this one, as always.

And don't worry, update is on the way of course!

 

[Kasrkin]

More testing and then problems but then that is my job.

 

[Shar Dundred]

What he is saying is that is getting his ass handed to him because I am creating some nice difficulty for the next release.

 

[lekxman22]

4 hours playing i guess

 

[lloyd2422]

I guess we are going to have a Lord of Shadows part two

 

[badest]

how to beat the hard difficulty of the second orcs book ch4?even worse than ch4 of the second human book!

Surrouned by three humans,attack continously without the break,
Orcs hero and the orcs troops are fucking weak!!!No means of the second goldmine and no means of hp regeneration.
Especially, the grey human enemies are unstoppable,3 fully upgraded elites each waves.and others include 2 level 6 enermy heros
i even tried to manipulated the computers with placing single barricks on the external area,aims that they will dismiss after detoyed the target,but it is useless!

the optional quest also is a trap that lead more demon to attack you at the same time!

who can pass without cheat?

until now,who did past ch4 without the aid of daddy

 

[Daffa]

There's always Easy to get things through, no need to force yourself. New buff for Zairmak might help better in 0.70

Ask @Kasrkin for hard difficulty guide.

 

[Championfighter25]

Guess Salria is almost ours by now. Once Redfist and Daric are dealt with, only king Salran needs to be slain.
The Bonelords and the undead were strong, but I have a small feeling they didn't give their all in this battle.
Some additional dialogue could be added when we go to face Logan, Rogthil, Sha'thar and Kasresh. Other than that, nice chapter.

 

[Daffa]

Just something that hits me while playing an old version of FUB cause mosquito dies easily under poison than trying to smack them:

How many 'credited' characters already taking appearance? I found Kakuzu, Heinvers, Imperator, Ironside, Theoden of Kome and Kasrkin. Oh, and the duo Flour and Bubblerino. Did I miss or forgot anyone on my journey all this time?

 

[Shar Dundred]

Well, Ironside is actually not related to the Hive user of that name in any way.
My lads Arowanna and San also may be encountered in a certain final mission of a certain
Second Book.

 

[Daffa]

Ah, I remember them now. Yes, it's DA GATES!

Anyway, surprising Ironside is not of the same name. I thought it was a reference

Tell me if there are other references I miss. I'm eager for some hunting

 

[badest]

There's always Easy to get things through, no need to force yourself. New buff for Zairmak might help better in 0.70

Ask @Kasrkin for hard difficulty guide.

still same ,only a teleport spell added for Zairmak,no use,still no hope to beat

 

[Shar Dundred]

Kasrkin offered you some advice when you originally posted this in the pack section (before it was moved here).

You need to make a decision on what you want to do when the mission starts. Smash and grab or fighting retreat. The bases in the east can hold indefinitely unless otherwise attacked by you and it is best to leave the Royal base alone until you have less threats to deal with. If you do attack an eastern base you must make sure it dies the first time you attack it or they will send soldiers to attack you while also fighting the demons. You're mainly attacking these side bases for items/tomes or the relief of pressure on your own base. Getting rid of the bulwark preventing the demons from attacking the bases in the west. Setting up a base in these locations is not the safest thing to do unless you have time to clear some trees or set up more defenses.

As for base defense you'll need a mixture of towers and burrows to alleviate the pressure along with a support group of no more than three to five units.

On the latter part you can dedicate everything you have to base defense and slow buildup dedicated to taking out purp and only purp. Doing this the mission should only take 20-35 minutes. Please note doing this likely means you will eventually have your base overrun as you complete the objective but it shouldn't matter since you've won by this point.

Taking on light blue is a bit of a juggle if you want to do it, purp is a very dangerous enemy if left alone but perhaps you just want that tome. Destroy the base covering the south east flank against the demons if you want to have extra help, at least a little bit in between attack waves.

 

[lloyd2422]

A quite weird interaction, if you had playthrough till chapter 12, you cannot control brockta in this mission. But on the other hand, if you create another profile and skip the chapters and just pick chapter 12, you can control brockta as a hero. What has caused this interaction?

 

[Shar Dundred]

A slight but that is going to be fixed in the next version.

 

[Kuras2003]

shar.... about Hive users names in Legends of Arkain.... do you plan to add more of them?

 

[Shar Dundred]

Currently I don't, no.
Not for any personal reasons, but because I want to keep the number of featured people rather limited, I don't want to force characters in just for the sake of using a name.
*If* I added any name new into it, I would do it like I did at the end of the Second Human Book, in a way that does not affect the story and instead with just someone having a name reference but nothing more.

 

[Kuras2003]

i remember little hiden crab named Imperator in SHB if i am correct.... 1 or 2 easter eggs of that kind won't hurt anyone and lore of arkain i supose

 

[Paul Emirique Ibanez]

Hey shar in chapter 9, why aren't the brown ogres moving at all? Do I need to do something

 

[renegade]

Are there really consequences when we choose to save the bearmen? Also when upgrading to mechanized warfare?

 

[Daffa]

The first is availability on a later mission, latter doesn't have an effect from what can be discerned.

 

[LickMyEyeBall]

It feels awkward tbh. You might skip them, but why would you? A free item and 2 units to boot. Wish they were amongst the "main cast".

 

[Kasrkin]

Chapter 12 needs 'adjusting'.

Spoiler

https://youtu.be/hWNsg7_D23o

 

[lloyd2422]

I think the mercenaries of commander daric needs to have a special unit. Just like how the royal army has greywolf, ironfirst has overseer, golden guard has Lieutenant and the uniqueness of redfist. They are a important faction especially in the sob

 

[Shar Dundred]

Daric is bringing some personal forces to the field.

 

[Boriss]

Daric is bringing some personal forces to the field.

Brace yourselves, Shar´s special force is coming.
(thanks, absolutely forgot about that he has an account here)

 

[Daffa]

I'll blame @lloyd2422 for whatever Shar puts for Daric main army

 

[lekxman22]

Yea true it will be hell with ch 12 muahahahah
P.S Shar how old are now heirs of zyanor??
Bad grammar sorry

 

[Shar Dundred]

At the time of the Second Books, they are not even born yet.
If you want to see when they are born, etc., check out when they were born.
You can do that in The Official Arkain Timeline

 

[Shar Dundred]

Another series of short stories has been released in Tales of Arkain, "The Heirs of Zyainor Vol. II"!
Be sure to check them out!

 

[Hardric62]

You know, with all these different orders for Zyainor mentioned, I cannot help but try to imagine all the different armies and styles it might involve... And wanting to play all of them. Heck, wanting to see them adapted for melee use if possible.
All that for say, keep up the excellent work, Shar. dunno about other people, but I know I'm being hooked up for good here.

 

[lekxman22]

I know i am asking random but shar will u after orc book u will make undead or stop project??

 

[Shar Dundred]

If anything, I may take a short break.

 

[LISBOAH]

If anything, I may take a short break.

Feel free to take it by me.

Given just how amazing this campaign is, you must be full of stress.

 

[Shar Dundred]

Knowing me I will use any break to write scripts and to work on new ideas to make people
suffer as much as possible...

 

[renegade]

Personally i think Sasrogarn's incompetence and doing a shitshow of a leadership should be more expressed in battle and dialogues like actually saying he killed someone even though someone else did, or making poor tactical decisions when having him as an AI ally. Having every character just exposition how incompetent he is even though i used him to his full advantage just makes it less justified of his apparent stupidity.

 

[Shar Dundred]

I have considered that, but I did not want to make it too obvious, feeling that it would be
slightly over the top if mentioned/shown too openly.
I think we have already established well enough how much of a failure he is.

 

[badest]

Kasrkin offered you some advice when you originally posted this in the pack section (before it was moved here).

still no one make the proof that they did pass this chapter ,without any video

 

[lekxman22]

Shar will u make anoter behind the scenes after second book????

 

[Shar Dundred]

There's probably going to be one - when all Second Books are done.

 

[Kasrkin]

Spoiler

Testing continues and I'm having flashbacks of unreleased versions with ridiculous armies and heroes.

 

[badest]

Spoiler

View attachment 319174

Testing continues and I'm having flashbacks of unreleased versions with ridiculous armies and heroes.

orcs army are really weak and handicapped when compare with ironfist,red fist,golden guard

counting the chapters
civil war
fight with redfist and saleria army
fight with demon
fight with undead bone lords

17 playable chapter in total?

 

[Shar Dundred]

@Kasrkin is currently suffering the pain from Chapter Thirteen... I wonder if the rest of you
wil be able tol handle it well when it's released!

Spoiler

I feel like your enemies may not like you too much...

 

[lekxman22]

Oh boy we are going to hell