Round Table of Arkain

[Championfighter25]

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rish -> rich
severly -> severely
opressed -> oppressed
adress -> address

How interesting!
The Tribal Dominion being so stable is definitely a surprise. Though, if Amari where to die, the Dominion will pretty much collapse.

The Elven Kingdom is below the autonomy level of a protectorate and it's people are so brainwashed at this point, that Salana becoming queen will be very hard. Even the spy dropped that hint.

Zyainor is being Zyainor as always.

Kerrel is screwed. Same goes for Rengar. Though the latter won't get annexed for an extremely long time, due to the plague.

 

[Kuras2003]

He was the emperor, yes. The true Emperor most likely was replaced after Largoth defected the undead.

But now there is an Empress.

I wonder if Largoth is powerfoul just like other dreadlords (Kresidar,Ornasion(Alive)) or he is way more powerfoul... becouse, you need a skill to control human empire as a dreadlord

 

[LISBOAH]

I wonder if Largoth is powerfoul just like other dreadlords (Kresidar,Ornasion(Alive)) or he is way more powerfoul... becouse, you need a skill to control human empire as a dreadlord

I don't think he is powerful, otherwise he would be considered a great threat and the demons would be hunting him down.

I think he is more of the Weak but Skilled type: he is very good at manipulating but in combat not so much. And since he was allied with Aridon and with the Dark One, he had plenty of time to practice manipulation and trickery.

 

[Shar Dundred]

I will just casually walk by and let you know that the spy and his empress have no relation with the known Empire.

 

[LISBOAH]

I will just casually walk by and let you know that the spy and his empress have no relation with the known Empire.

So it is another empire?

 

[Shar Dundred]

Yes.

 

[LISBOAH]

Yes.

Interesting.
So there are other nations besides the Kingdoms, the Empire, the Dominion and the Demon Legions.

Are they also interested in conquering the kingdoms and this espionage is in search of opportunities, allies and weaknesses? Or is it just a strategy to be aware of the political situation?

 

[Shar Dundred]

[...] Now that I have finished writing these lines and read them, I once again find myself agreeing with the empress that we cannot tolerate this situation to continue unhindered. [...]

 

[LISBOAH]

So there will be two invasions occuring at practically the same time?

 

[Shar Dundred]

Well, what do you think is going to happen? There is so much stuff going on, after all!

 

[LISBOAH]

Well, what do you think is going to happen? There is so much stuff going on, after all!

And now Arkain will go into...

TOTAL WAR!

 

[MasterBlaster]

And now Arkain will go into...

And now Arkain will go back into being Arkain, i.e. the usual madness

 

[Shar Dundred]

As much as I would love to see it happen, Total War: Arkain is going to stay a dream.

And now Arkain will go back into being Arkain, i.e. the usual madness

That is one way of putting it.

 

[deepstrasz]

As much as I would love to see it happen, Total War: Arkain is going to stay a dream.

In Warcraft? Not impossible but not as complex.

 

[LISBOAH]

As much as I would love to see it happen, Total War: Arkain is going to stay a dream.

I would love to see it too, but what I meant is that everybody would fight everybody else pretty much. Invasions, civil wars, conspiracies from within, etc...

 

[Shar Dundred]

In Warcraft? Not impossible but not as complex.

No, not in WarCraft.

I would love to see it too, but what I meant is that everybody would fight everybody else pretty much. Invasions, civil wars, conspiracies from within, etc...

That sounds about right.

 

[LISBOAH]

That sounds about right.

What I found really funny about the short story is that every faction has dissension among its ranks in varied levels. On such times, with factions plotting to attack each other, instead of uniting these sub-factions seem to be fighting amongst themselves in order to gain influence.

When the war comes, which will be very likely the biggest war that the Kingdoms ever faced not counting demonic invasions, these rivalries will come to bite them all hard.

 

[deepstrasz]

No, not in WarCraft.

Try Unity then? I don't remember the Total War series having editors or modding tools hence why I referred the World Editor for the job.

 

[Shar Dundred]

What I found really funny about the short story is that every faction has dissension among its ranks in varied levels. On such times, with factions plotting to attack each other, instead of uniting these sub-factions seem to be fighting amongst themselves in order to gain influence.

When the war comes, which will be very likely the biggest war that the Kingdoms ever faced not counting demonic invasions, these rivalries will come to bite them all hard.

It depends on how those conflicts will play out in such a scenario.
If the number and size of conflicts was all that mattered in the current situation, the Tribal Dominion, ironically out of all places, would be the safest place to live in. Well, except for the Dead Mountain.

Try Unity then? I don't remember the Total War series having editors or modding tools hence why I referred the World Editor for the job.

I have no time for such a project and my interest in learning this is rather limited as well.

 

[Kuras2003]

Does in second orc book or second undead book will you use maps from first books?

Like you did with that navy mission (Sas,Merlon,Largoth)

 

[deepstrasz]

I have no time for such a project and my interest in learning this is rather limited as well.

Maybe you could just try to implement Total War concepts in your future Warcraft III Arkain Books.

 

[Shar Dundred]

Does in second orc book or second undead book will you use maps from first books?

Like you did with that navy mission (Sas,Merlon,Largoth)

The area of the Dead Mountain would be something to possibly be re-used, but apart from that? Unlikely.

Maybe you could just try to implement Total War concepts in your future Warcraft III Arkain Books.

I know it is possible and I would even have a concept in my head but it is unlikely to happen.

 

[Kuras2003]

Does Theoden of Kome have relatives or family?

(Just courious)

 

[pleasancer benediction]

I wonder if theres a chance to explore the origins of kome empire.

 

[Kuras2003]

I wonder if theres a chance to explore the origins of kome empire.

Kome is no empire..
It's Order of knights

 

[Shar Dundred]

Does Theoden of Kome have relatives or family?

(Just courious)

He considers the order his family.

I wonder if theres a chance to explore the origins of kome empire.

The Knights of Kome are a knight order of the Kingdoms.
The First Orc Book tells you about their background, namely Chapter Seven, Zairmak and the quest log.
They were humans who fought the Orcs during their initial arrival on Arkain and were the ones to drive them off their lands after the Demons had crushed much of the Orcs' army.

 

[Kuras2003]

What did Brian wanted from Renova's shadow?

 

[Championfighter25]

What did Brian wanted from Renova's shadow?

Extract information that may benefit him later. He pretty much does that to every shadow he has collected.

 

[Kuras2003]

but didn't he want to know something specific?

 

[Shar Dundred]

Renova was to be married to the Emperor. Brian knows who the ruler of the Empire is.

Now whom could he have wanted to gather information on?

 

[Kuras2003]

But at the end of Gardon's cinematic ,he left gardon and if he is all by himself now then why he would want to have info about Largo... ekhem* Emperor?

Maybe I am wrong but Duel beetwen two of them would probably end bad for Brian

 

[Shar Dundred]

Even if he doesn't, it surely would not hurt to gather all information you can get about your enemy, would it?

 

[LISBOAH]

Even if he doesn't, it surely would not hurt to gather all information you can get about your enemy, would it?

A pity he didn't tell Gardon. That could have made many Imperials in the kingdoms desert the Empire and join him instead.

Maybe van Durce and his Golden Guard could have realized the futility of their actions and made an agreement with the Ironfist.

 

[Caio Veiga]

The Second Arkain human book, it's what finalle of First Human Book?
I can't understand, sorry xd

 

[LISBOAH]

The Second Arkain human book, it's what finalle of First Human Book?
I can't understand, sorry xd

The sequel and conclusion to the First Book.

 

[Caio Veiga]

The sequel and conclusion to the First Book.

But we have 2 finales, what finale is: that we defeat the Genethas or that we defeat Gardon?

 

[Shar Dundred]

It can be either.

 

[LISBOAH]

But we have 2 finales, what finale is: that we defeat the Genethas or that we defeat Gardon?

These campaigns are all about the choices we make and the choices later change the outcome.

 

[Caio Veiga]

These campaigns are all about the choices we make and the choices later change the outcome.

Sorry, now I see, in the initial map in second human book have the choices that I make in the first human book, xd

 

[Shar Dundred]

Arkain News Network

Share your thoughts!

 

[LISBOAH]

Arkain News Network

Share your thoughts!

As you wish. I liked all.

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I like Garan. He is both knowledgable of the battles during the Second Void War, is aware that in order to win sacrifices must be made and thinks outside the box.

Zurae seems to be quite a brave woman, a good mage and seems clearly eager for her father's approval.

I like that Hotar doesn't wish to be treated differently simply for being royalty. I also like that he, like me, likes honest girls with sharp tongues

Good to know that Gardon cares for all his children, if they are bastards. Unlike Henry the VIII.
Poor Parlea How they dare to bully her simply for being half-blood. Birram is right, she is too nice for her own good. She should fight back.
Good to see Birram protecting her behind her back, even if through threats.

Not a lot to talk about Velina. I hope she and Parlea have a good sibling relationship. Why it seems clear that Larine loves her children, she seems to be willing to use them to seek more favor with Gardon.

Could we know how old they are currently?
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[Shar Dundred]

Glad you liked em!

Could we know how old they are currently?

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Garan was born on the 2nd October 1 Z. R.
Zurae was born on the 18th March 3 Z. R., on the same day, the half-elven twins were born.
Hotar was born on the 3rd January 4 Z. R.

That means that, at the time of the short stories, the ages were:
Garan: 16, becoming 17 in October
Zurae: 7
Hotar: Just got 16
Parlea: 10
Velina: 11

 

[Championfighter25]

Vail and Gardon have raised their ''misfits'' pretty well. Larine, ehhhhh... Still though, they have big shoes to fill and considering what they will face in the future, those were rookie level accomplishments.

Spoiler: Opinion on successors

Garan:
A worthy commander who really knows what he's doing. He cares to learn from history and make sure he doesn't repeat other people's mistakes. I also like how Garan has inherited his father's assertiveness and non-openly expressed pity.

Zurae:
She made Gardon sincerely smile. She's certainly going places. A bit sad he doesn't pay her much attention though. Her skills are quite admirable, would certainly make a nice Grandmistress of a flame order.

Hotar:
He is certainly a good and kind soul. Those traits make him unique from the rest of the family, in a good way. I just hope his constant striving for improvement won't lead to something terrible happening to him.

Parlea:
Pretty sad. If it wasn't for her being a bastard daughter, those bullies would've been dealt with way sooner. And indeed, she is way too good for her own good. Sadly if she doesn't toughen up soon, she'll remain an insecure person for the rest of her life, allowing everyone to shame and bully her further.

Velina:
Don't really have much of an opinion on her. Seems like a cheerful, mostly innocent and a bit of an indecisive child.

Spoiler: Grammar fixes

The Strategist:

ruined casle -> ruined castle

us severly -> us severely
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The Magician:

severly -> severely
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The Soldier:

him move -> him to move

was a honest person with sharp tongue -> was an honest person with a sharp tongue

been severly -> been severely
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The Student:

halfblood -> half-blood

neccessary -> necessary

takes in one -> takes is one

Tojaz' -> Tojaz's
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The Archer:

slighly -> slightly

 

[LISBOAH]

Vail and Gardon have raised their ''misfits'' pretty well. Larine, ehhhhh... Still though, they have big shoes to fill and considering what they will face in the future, those were rookie level accomplishments.

Considering who their parents are, they wouldn't like to see their children become parasites of society so they raised them to develop their skills and be very fluent on several topics.

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Zurae:
She made Gardon sincerely smile. She's certainly going places. A bit sad he doesn't pay her much attention though. Her skills are quite admirable, would certainly make a nice Grandmistress of a flame order.

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I am actually surprised that Gardon sent his seven year old daughter to fight in a battle.
Does this mean that kids that young can join the army if they have the skills required.?

OMG
Zurae will be Arkain's version of Tanya von Degurechaff!

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Hotar:
He is certainly a good and kind soul. Those traits make him unique from the rest of the family, in a good way. I just hope his constant striving for improvement won't lead to something terrible happening to him.

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Considering Arkain, this might end bad.

 

[Shar Dundred]

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I like Garan. He is both knowledgable of the battles during the Second Void War, is aware that in order to win sacrifices must be made and thinks outside the box.

A worthy commander who really knows what he's doing. He cares to learn from history and make sure he doesn't repeat other people's mistakes. I also like how Garan has inherited his father's assertiveness and non-openly expressed pity.

He certainly inherited his father's competence, I would say.

Zurae seems to be quite a brave woman, a good mage and seems clearly eager for her father's approval.

She made Gardon sincerely smile. She's certainly going places. A bit sad he doesn't pay her much attention though. Her skills are quite admirable, would certainly make a nice Grandmistress of a flame order.

And that is just her being a little girl, wait until she grows up!

I like that Hotar doesn't wish to be treated differently simply for being royalty. I also like that he, like me, likes honest girls with sharp tongues

He is certainly a good and kind soul. Those traits make him unique from the rest of the family, in a good way. I just hope his constant striving for improvement won't lead to something terrible happening to him.

Hotar is the kind of guy who would stand in the first line, side by side with the other soldiers.

Poor Parlea How they dare to bully her simply for being half-blood. Birram is right, she is too nice for her own good. She should fight back.
Good to see Birram protecting her behind her back, even if through threats.

Pretty sad. If it wasn't for her being a bastard daughter, those bullies would've been dealt with way sooner. And indeed, she is way too good for her own good. Sadly if she doesn't toughen up soon, she'll remain an insecure person for the rest of her life, allowing everyone to shame and bully her further.

Half-bloods are a rarity in Arkain, so.... yeah.
I wouldn't be too concerned regarding her future in that area, though. There is at least one person who is now forced to protect her from other bullies.
Who knows how long he may be her guardian....

I hope she and Parlea have a good sibling relationship

They have, I can easily confirm that being the case.

While it seems clear that Larine loves her children, she seems to be willing to use them to seek more favor with Gardon.

I would say she is trying to give both herself and her children Gardon's favor, but I get what you mean.

I am actually surprised that Gardon sent his seven year old daughter to fight in a battle.
Does this mean that kids that young can join the army if they have the skills required.?

It is unusual, but Gardon is not really known for being conservative, is he?

 

[ankel_beans]

is genethas really fixed as the traitor in the empire? i chosed to side with gardon in my playthrough and completed the 2nd book. What happens in the 2nd book if i sided with genethas instead of gardon?

 

[LISBOAH]

is genethas really fixed as the traitor in the empire? i chosed to side with gardon in my playthrough and completed the 2nd book. What happens in the 2nd book if i sided with genethas instead of gardon?

I don't think there are much differences in terms of gameplay.

From what I recall, the only diferences are in terms of the characters' dialogues.

 

[The_Messenger]

is genethas really fixed as the traitor in the empire? i chosed to side with gardon in my playthrough and completed the 2nd book. What happens in the 2nd book if i sided with genethas instead of gardon?

Genethas admits that he betrayed the empire back then so that he and hus men could survive the war. If you fights againts Gardon by siding with Genethas, he still admits that he's a traitor right after Gardon says that you've sided with the wrong person.

In the Second Human Book, if you sided with Genethas the only difference will be at the beginning where Gardon tells the inquisitor if you either sided with him or with the traitor. So he will either defend or condemn Blen Greymoore.

 

[LISBOAH]

In the Second Human Book, if you sided with Genethas the only difference will be at the beginning where Gardon tells the inquisitor if you either sided with him or with the traitor. So he will either defend or condemn Blen Greymoore.

Not only that.
Harmos will occasioanly mention Blen and claim that van Durce did a big mistake by killing him.
In the final mission (if we pick the Golden Guard) van Durce will admit to Marin that Blen didn't deserve to die and that maybe the whole situation could have been avoided if they hadn't imprison and kill him.

 

[The_Messenger]

Not only that.
Harmos will occasioanly mention Blen and claim that van Durce did a big mistake by killing him.
In the final mission (if we pick the Golden Guard) van Durce will admit to Marin that Blen didn't deserve to die and that maybe the whole situation could have been avoided if they hadn't imprison and kill him.

Blen really didn't deserve to die, in my honest opinion. Not only that I've grown fond of him during the First Human Book, it was nearly impossible to pin any blame on him other than possible treason, inciting rebellion and attacking an Imperial army.
I can't exactly say that Blen and Harmos were friends since the dialogues between them is "bare bones" (I would pin their relationship somewhere a bit higher than casual acquaintances) but Harmos did pledge his services to Blen and probably developed some kind of friendship later on based on their battles and when they fought side by side.
Van Durce was overzealous from the very beginning and it was highly unnecessary to use that on someone like Blen. Honestly, I'm surprised the Karskin haven't mounted a revenge plot againts Van Durce, or plan to hit the Golden Guard a few times as retaliation for what they did to Blen.