Round Table of Arkain

[LISBOAH]

I think they're overextending themselves a bit too much. Yeah, you said troops aren't a problem for them, but you also said using way too many troops at the same time would make everyone concentrare their efforts on eliminating them.

Exactly. Now the whole Arkain knows that there is out there a huge army of undead that is growing by the day...

Also btw what happend to Mr. Sarcastic and the 3 Bonelords?
I guess DrakeSkull man escaped, but did the Bonelords' corpses get burned/destroyed?

Knowing Gardon/van Durce they most likely burned the corpses so that they wouldn't be reanimated.

Rahandir most likely escaped. A pity we didn't see Sapphira and Krom confronting him.

 

[Championfighter25]

Exactly. Now the whole Arkain knows that there is out there a huge army of undead that is growing by the day...

Expect a siege of Dead Mountinople chapter soon. It's inevitable at this point.

Knowing Gardon/van Durce they most likely burned the corpses so that they wouldn't be reanimated

I bet Gardon's thinking "instead of burning them, let's revive them, give the 3 magical amulets and they'll serve us without question. What could possibly go wrong?"

 

[Boriss]

Them bonelords were actually secondary threat there. So it may have happened that in all that confusion of battle their corpses were carried away in secrecy. Depends on Aridon´s plans of returning someday. Noone else has the power to raise them imho.

 

[Darkness.Sansoyat]

Them bonelords were actually secondary threat there. So it may have happened that in all that confusion of battle their corpses were carried away in secrecy. Depends on Aridon´s plans of returning someday. Noone else has the power to raise them imho.

considering that Kersidar (an obvious dreadlord) could survive the gunshot, there is a slight possibility that The Three Bonelords also have that possibility, of course I think it is much lower than the first one mentioned (there are two ways to kill them) on mission 12, but I prefer the cannon is so good and powerful).

also the forces of Van durce / Gardon, are in the vicinity and I doubt that they leave so many corpses there, they that Saphira and krom, are not the only ones of their species in arkain, removing more possibility to the bonelords to return (but even with the so low possibility of them, everything is in the hands of shar and karshin)

 

[LISBOAH]

considering that Kersidar (an obvious dreadlord) could survive the gunshot, there is a slight possibility that The Three Bonelords also have that possibility, of course I think it is much lower than the first one mentioned (there are two ways to kill them) on mission 12, but I prefer the cannon is so good and powerful).

Kersidar is a high-ranking dreadlord and they are harder to kill than cockroaches. They are similar to the dreadlords of World of Warcraft.

The Bonelords can be killed, as they were ages ago. Their greatest advantage is the fact that they can be raised back. But Rahandir is no Aridon, and maybe he will lack power to do it, at least by himself.

 

[Shar Dundred]

Expect a siege of Dead Mountinople chapter soon. It's inevitable at this point.

Already happened, just wait for the Second Undead Book.

But Rahandir is no Aridon

No one could replace Aridon.

 

[Championfighter25]

Already happened, just wait for the Second Undead Book.

Yeah, i think the ending of the 1st undead book didn't at all spoil it.
Also i guess "losing" chapter 9 will make the mission x1000 times harder?

No one could replace Aridon.

You can make Rahandir find his body, get his power and become Raharidon the ultra sarcastic prick watcher.

 

[LISBOAH]

You can make Rahandir find his body, get his power and become Raharidon the ultra sarcastic prick watcher.

I still find it weird that Aridon died and didn't gave his powers to a successor. He, of all people, should know that death would come for him and he would have made precautions to ensure that Arkain would always have a Watcher.

 

[Championfighter25]

I still find it weird that Aridon died and didn't gave his powers to a successor. He, of all people, should know that death would come for him and he would have made precautions to ensure that Arkain would always have a Watcher.

All part of the plan.

 

[LISBOAH]

All part of the plan.

Aridon: "Without the Watcher's influence, the reckless mortals will become even more reckless (idiotic, short-sighted, etc). Control must be maintained. There must always be... a Watcher."

 

[Championfighter25]

Aridon: "Without the Watcher's influence, the reckless mortals will become even more reckless (idiotic, short-sighted, etc). Control must be maintained. There must always be... a Watcher."

Translate the sentence to Portuguese then back to English. That's way more correct of a prophecy.
Anyway, yeah you are correct about them becoming a lot more short-sighted. Their plan of eradicating the demons, while it won't work, for obvious reasons, will really badly effect them.

 

[vinco]

May i ask how could demon kill aridon when he say that even someone like ornasius can not be killed

 

[Championfighter25]

May i ask how could demon kill aridon when he say that even someone like ornasius can not be killed

Aridon said he cannot be killed by ordinary ways. As we saw Aridon may have used some kind of ancient ritual.

 

[LISBOAH]

May i ask how could demon kill aridon when he say that even someone like ornasius can not be killed

A very defined strategy, LOTS of demons sacrificed, a LOT of those infernal catapults, at least twenty dreadlords... This is my opinion...

 

[Shar Dundred]

 

[Boriss]

What about that gem of blackest glass that Aridon has where his heart should be?

 

[Khush]

I have a question in mind, since the first human book...
How did Aaron found out about Genethas's alliance with Demons?

 

[LISBOAH]

I have a question in mind, since the first human book...
How did Aaron found out about Genethas's alliance with Demons?

I think Gardon, or someone close to Gardon, told him.

 

[Khush]

Aaron might have needed some 'convincing' as he didn't had Amulet of Discipline.

Also if Shar added a short tale on Aaron's realizing, then it would be much better.

 

[Boriss]

I think Gardon, or someone close to Gardon, told him.

Or he recognised Genethas´ men when they aided demons in burning that outpost.

 

[Darkness.Sansoyat]

Kersidar is a high-ranking dreadlord and they are harder to kill than cockroaches. They are similar to the dreadlords of World of Warcraft.

The Bonelords can be killed, as they were ages ago. Their greatest advantage is the fact that they can be raised back. But Rahandir is no Aridon, and maybe he will lack power to do it, at least by himself.

a detail of the lore of the bonelords, is that Aridon and company (who have been) collected the remains of them. (Consider also the news that on mission 6 of book two of humans). Saphira gives us the news that Aridon is deceased, the boneslords serve Randahir, so I suggest that the method of using Randahir, to raise his new servants (which incidentally, surely have discussed with him, on whom to serve and the reasons that shar will give them) I deduce that it will be like Kel`thuzad's ritual of invoking Archimonde.

we will have to defend Randahir (if we choose his path as Gardon / Van Durce) while he completes the invoking ritual (something similar to a defense mission is the same optional or not)

but knowing shar and karshin XD will surely want us to be surprised, like that time of the downloadable kinematics of the Dwarves of chapter 10.

 

[Milan Milovanović]

I have question. On this continent where is Kingdom of Lor... etc.

How much kingdoms exist on it?

Maybe Shar could make a map or something for sake of a storyline.

 

[Shar Dundred]

Seven human kingdoms:
Lor (which is the main stage for the First Books)
Kerrel (which is the main stage for the Second Human Book)
Rengar (which is featured in the Second Human Book)
Pyrru (which is featured in the Second Human Book)
Toran (which is featured in the Second Human Book)
Salria (which hasn't been featured yet)
Isalmur (which has been conquered by the Demon Legions long ago)

 

[LickMyEyeBall]

Seven human kingdoms:
Lor (which is the main stage for the First Books)
Kerrel (which is the main stage for the Second Human Book)
Rengar (which is featured in the Second Human Book)
Pyrru (which is featured in the Second Human Book)
Toran (which is featured in the Second Human Book)
Salria (which hasn't been featured yet)
Isalmur (which has been conquered by the Demon Legions long ago)

Is isalmur the nothermost one? I mean are there any reference points to get a clue of how the continent looks like etc.

 

[Championfighter25]

Is isalmur the nothermost one? I mean are there any reference points to get a clue of how the continent looks like etc.

I think isalmur is the most southern one, considering it was conquered first.
Also i wonder where was the capital of the Zyainor empire located? And what was it's name?

 

[Milan Milovanović]

I think isalmur is the most southern one, considering it was conquered first.
Also i wonder where was the capital of the Zyainor empire located? And what was it's name?

Why would they come from south?

But there's much more question.

How does continent look like?


Whats the population of Humans and Elves?


Were on the continet orcs live?


If demons are conquering kingdoms one at a time why all seven kingdoms just rally all troops?

Beside continent of Imperial are there more continents?

What are the names of continents?

 

[LISBOAH]

Why would they come from south?

Because the Void is located there.

But there's much more question.

Welcome to Arkain where for every answer we got three more questions!

How does continent look like?
Were on the continet orcs live?
Beside continent of Imperial are there more continents?
What are the names of continents?

I once asked Shar for a map. He will not give.

Whats the population of Humans and Elves?

Considering the number of wars that have been occuring, they must be quite low compared to ours

 

[Championfighter25]

Whats the population of Humans and Elves?

Hard to say. What we know from a Q & A though is that the continent's population is roughly that of Europe + Russia. This is excluding the demons and undead.

Were on the continet orcs live?

They are all over the continent and don't have a permanent residing place.

If demons are conquering kingdoms one at a time why all seven kingdoms just rally all troops?

Humanity can't unite completely. It's simple as that.

Beside continent of Imperial are there more continents?

Yes.
Sadly none of them are revealed yet.

 

[Kasrkin]

Spoiler

No idea how this ended up happening with the AI but it did. As Shar has said on the Arkain channel testing is underway and oh my word we have some differences.

 

[Boriss]

Spoiler

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No idea how this ended up happening with the AI but it did. As Shar has said on the Arkain channel testing is underway and oh my word we have some differences.

I usually solve this by just killing that one unit
Btw happened to me in the mission where you clear up that pass full of peasants. Liberated that village that joined me and then, since it had so many troops, they just formed around their gold mine and the attack wave was stuck there. Had to use blizzards to free that wave.

 

[Milan Milovanović]

Here's the map that i made.

Took me like 5 minutes

 

[LISBOAH]

Here's the map that i made.

Took me like 5 minutes

While this looks good, I think there are lands beyond the kingdoms. I think the kingdoms don't cover the entire continent.

 

[Milan Milovanović]

While this looks good, I think there are lands beyond the kingdoms. I think the kingdoms don't cover the entire continent.

Can you then explain me were is what?

Like wheres void?
Where is Elven Kingdom?
From where Dwarfs come?
What's beyond these kingdoms any information would be nice?

If you want to email me ,,[email protected]"

 

[Shar Dundred]

Are you now creating a map for my world?

 

[Milan Milovanović]

Are you now creating a map for my world?

no, i just wanna understand full story

 

[Boriss]

Are you now creating a map for my world?

Why not make a map yourself? Send it to blizzard, maybe they will make it into some future expansion of wow
Alliance will side with the Empire while Horde joins kingdoms and Gardon

 

[LISBOAH]

Why not make a map yourself? Send it to blizzard, maybe they will make it into some future expansion of wow

World of Warcraft: Legends of Arkain

New allied races: Imperials, Men of the Kingdoms
Two new continents
Level raised to 200!
New battlefronts!
New Class: Executioner, Ironfist

Alliance will side with the Empire while Horde joins kingdoms and Gardon

I don't think neither would accept orcs, trolls, goblins and Forsaken...

Sapphira wouldn't accept free-willed undeads. Because the Forsaken could start influencing her undead into geting free of Sapphira's control and join Sylvanas.

 

[Shar Dundred]

Why not make a map yourself? Send it to blizzard, maybe they will make it into some future expansion of wow
Alliance will side with the Empire while Horde joins kingdoms and Gardon

World of Warcraft: Legends of Arkain

New allied races: Imperials, Men of the Kingdoms
Two new continents
Level raised to 200!
New battlefronts!
New Class: Executioner, Ironfist



I don't think neither would accept orcs, trolls, goblins and Forsaken...

Sapphira wouldn't accept free-willed undeads. Because the Forsaken could start influencing her undead into geting free of Sapphira's control and join Sylvanas.

I would rather see Arkain utterly destroyed, burned down, exterminated and pissed on than have it in WoW.

 

[Championfighter25]

I would rather see Arkain utterly destroyed, burned down, exterminated and pissed on than have it in WoW.

I expect that to happen in the future demon book.

 

[Shar Dundred]

Anyway:
I may or may not decide to create a map (again), but no promises.
Just fyi, the Void is in the East.

 

[Milan Milovanović]

Anyway:
I may or may not decide to create a map (again), but no promises.
Just fyi, the Void is in the East.

Damn it Shar why are you messing with my mind?


Nevertheless im looking forward for official map

 

[LISBOAH]

Just fyi, the Void is in the East.

Why do all hordes of bloodthirsty and nigh-unstoppable warriors come from the East?
(The Huns, the Mongols, the Demons, etc...)

 

[Championfighter25]

Why do all hordes of bloodthirsty and nigh-unstoppable warriors come from the East?

I'm pretty sure we've almost stopped them.
And by the end of chapter 14 they won't be a threat anymore. Or will they?...
Still though after all of this is over, i wonder what will become of Lor and Isalmur? Will Gardon pull of some kind of a diplomatic trick and annex them or will they just become independant once again? The latter will seriously shatter his plan of reviving the Zyainor empire.

 

[Shar Dundred]

Still though after all of this is over, i wonder what will become of Lor and Isalmur? Will Gardon pull of some kind of a diplomatic trick and annex them or will they just become independant once again? The latter will seriously shatter his plan of reviving the Zyainor empire.

Both Isalmur and Lor have been ravaged by the Demons, there aren't many surviving non-enslaved humans left.
Certainly not enough to withstand Gardon.

And the remaining Kingdoms, Kerrel and Rengar, wouldn't wage war
on the one who defeats the Demons (Gardon); that'd be bad for morale. Especially since Zyainor would be the very thing that stood between
them and the Demons.
Not to mention that they'd stand no chance: Huge losses against the Demons, no allies (Dwarves would not come back and the Elves would stand with Gardon),
the black dragons are on their comeback...
I could go on, I think you understand that no one would stay in his way if he wanted to take what he wants there.

 

[Boriss]

Both Isalmur and Lor have been ravaged by the Demons, there aren't many surviving non-enslaved humans left.
Certainly not enough to withstand Gardon.

And the remaining Kingdoms, Kerrel and Rengar, wouldn't wage war
on the one who defeats the Demons (Gardon); that'd be bad for morale. Especially since Zyainor would be the very thing that stood between
them and the Demons.
Not to mention that they'd stand no chance: Huge losses against the Demons, no allies (Dwarves would not come back and the Elves would stand with Gardon),
the black dragons are on their comeback...
I could go on, I think you understand that no one would stay in his way if he wanted to take what he wants there.

Does that mean that changes included elves will stand with Gardon no matter what? No matter the choice?

 

[Shar Dundred]

Maybe, maybe not.

 

[LickMyEyeBall]

To sum up: Lor and Isalmur - ravaged, Salria - occupied by the orcs and their friends, Toran and Pyrru - under Gardon's thumb, but I guess still ravaged. Kerrel and Rengar are still "alive", I guess. Damn, humanity is in some deep trouble in Arkain. Shar's misanthropy manifesting pretty brightly.

 

[LISBOAH]

To sum up: Lor and Isalmur - ravaged, Salria - occupied by the orcs and their friends, Toran and Pyrru - under Gardon's thumb, but I guess still ravaged. Kerrel and Rengar are still "alive", I guess. Damn, humanity is in some deep trouble in Arkain.

Humanity is, on most fantasy stories, the weakest race as they lack most of the abilities and traits that grant the other races advantage. The greatest advantage they have is that they tend to have a much higher population, which allows them to field more troops and colonize regions way faster.

Plus, humanity has the capability of enduring harshness, surpass it and regaining strength later. So give them some centuries and these kingdoms will be recreated under Gardon's command.

Shar's misanthropy manifesting pretty brightly.

As a misanthrope myself, that makes me like Shar even more

 

[Championfighter25]

Humanity is, on most fantasy stories, the weakest race as they lack most of the abilities and traits that grant the other races advantage. The greatest advantage they have is that they tend to have a much higher population, which allows them to field more troops and colonize regions way faster.

Plus, humanity has the capability of enduring harshness, surpass it and regaining strength later. So give them some centuries and these kingdoms will be recreated under Gardon's command.

I actually think a few decades are enough before they are back again at a normal development level. The only kingdom that won't develop that much in my opinion is Isalmur since most of it will be used as a battleground, rather than a place for civilians to live.

 

[LISBOAH]

I actually think a few decades are enough before they are back again at a normal development level. The only kingdom that won't develop that much in my opinion is Isalmur since most of it will be used as a battleground, rather than a place for civilians to live.

I don't know... if Gardon manages to hit the demons pretty hard, leaving them as an endangered species, the humans might be capable of repopulating Isalmur with only some strong defenses in the border with the Void.