[Campaign] Rise of the Blood Elves - Enchanted Edition

tomoraider · Jul 10, 2013

sniper_zero said:
Is the epic music in the trailer part of the cutscene or is it just in the video? Anyway, this campaign has so much hype to it I can hardly wait for it to finish.

It's part of the cutscene.

Yousef · Jul 10, 2013

I liked the trailer but it does not reflect the Blood Elves just Forsaken in the trailer

Razosh · Jul 10, 2013

It doesn't really reflect anyone it just shows a huge army.

Olivertkf · Jul 10, 2013

WOW, nice updateds, why don't u relised a "beta version" here in this post, for use playing and give some suggestion or find bugs ?

tomoraider · Jul 10, 2013

Olivertkf said:
WOW, nice updateds, why don't u relised a "beta version" here in this post, for use playing and give some suggestion or find bugs ?

I never release unfinished campaigns.

StormWarriors2 · Jul 10, 2013

Looks good. Can't wait to see it done !

yann darkside · Jul 17, 2013

tomoraider said:
Because they already have a WC3 model and they wouldn't fit in anyway. I would only use a WoW model if I couldn't find any other one.

EDIT: Work on Chapter Four is done. Work on Chapter Five will begin soon.

yeaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaah :grin:

Razosh · Jul 17, 2013

yann darkside said:
yeaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaah

You have not really payed attention too this at all have you? Chapter 5 is already completed and soon Chapter 6 will be as well, or at least if tomoraider keeps the current pace up.

knight26 · Jul 18, 2013

Razosh said:
or at least if tomoraider keeps the current paste up.

Pace*, you mean pace. :ogre_hurrhurr:

Razosh · Jul 18, 2013

knight26 said:
Pace*, you mean pace.

Yes I did and I do not know how I made that mistake, thank you for the heads up.

tomoraider · Jul 18, 2013

Razosh said:
You have not really payed attention too this at all have you? Chapter 5 is already completed and soon Chapter 6 will be as well, or at least if tomoraider keeps the current pace up.

I kind of took a break from the campaign now, will probably continue working on it soon :3

But, chapter six is almost done.

In the meantime, a new screenshot!

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Daffa · Jul 18, 2013

Good luck, btw, Nomination thread has begun.

tomoraider · Jul 18, 2013

Alessandra and Lor'Themar's spell screenshots have been updated. Now also include the explanation of spells.

Razosh · Jul 18, 2013

tomoraider said:
Now also include the explanation of spells.

Thank you.

knight26 · Jul 18, 2013

tomoraider, on that map, controlling 5 heroes would be a bitch and unless I'm wrong(since the blue base is visible as well) that means control over two bases simultaneously. Well I'm just happy for the difficulty on that map, that's what I wanted to say, although I'm not very sure about 5 heroes.. In my mind it sounds like severe pain for my left hand.
Edit: UNLESS, you make the 5-th hero a tank with 3 passive abilities, that might work I suppose.

Razosh · Jul 18, 2013

Well you could always cheat yourself to victory if you're just in on it for the story.

tomoraider · Jul 18, 2013

knight26 said:
tomoraider, on that map, controlling 5 heroes would be a bitch and unless I'm wrong(since the blue base is visible as well) that means control over two bases simultaneously. Well I'm just happy for the difficulty on that map, that's what I wanted to say, although I'm not very sure about 5 heroes.. In my mind it sounds like severe pain for my left hand.
Edit: UNLESS, you make the 5-th hero a tank with 3 passive abilities, that might work I suppose.

Actually, you're not going to be controlling the blue base, I thought about it, but since Sylvanas already has another campaign for her, she's gonna be controlled by an AI.

I think controlling 5 heroes might make it a bit too easy, but I just don't know how else to do it.

EDIT: I was thinking about splitting them across those two bases... but since there are boats... yeah. Perhaps I could just cut out the boats, and make it crossable by the bridge on a different spot, but then the campaign wouldn't have a map with boats.

Razosh · Jul 19, 2013

Just give Sylvanas some epic screen time and everyone will be happy.

StormWarriors2 · Jul 19, 2013

Razosh said:
Just give Sylvanas some epic screen time and everyone will be happy.

That would do it.
(Or a secret bonus mission)

knight26 · Jul 19, 2013

Razosh said:
Well you could always cheat yourself to victory if you're just in on it for the story.

That's out of the question my friend, I never cheat 'cos it ruins the enthusiasm and beauty of the gameplay, and shows no respect for map maker's efforts, imo

tomoraider said:
(Reply to tomoraider's quote)

Okay then let me give you an idea, although i got no knowledge how you do it(im not a map maker), but I've seen some campaigns which have it..
you could separate the time when the heroes 'appear', example two/three heroes for one part of the mission(i.ex: capture 1~2 observatories), and have them removed from gameplay once the first part of the mission is completed, and THEN have the left two/three heroes(appear) accomplish the other part of the mission that's left.
Of course this might be too difficult to make, that's why I'm only suggesting this as I said, I got no knowledge in map making! :ogre_haosis:

Razosh · Jul 19, 2013

knight26 said:
Okay then let me give you an idea, although i got no knowledge how you do it(im not a map maker), but I've seen some campaigns which have it..
you could separate the time when the heroes 'appear', example two/three heroes for one part of the mission(i.ex: capture 1~2 observatories), and have them removed from gameplay once the first part of the mission is completed, and THEN have the left two/three heroes(appear) accomplish the other part of the mission that's left.
Of course this might be too difficult to make, that's why I'm only suggesting this as I said, I got no knowledge in map making!

It's not a bad idea not to mention it's very easy to implement such a function.

tomoraider · Jul 19, 2013

knight26 said:
That's out of the question my friend, I never cheat 'cos it ruins the enthusiasm and beauty of the gameplay, and shows no respect for map maker's efforts, imo

Okay then let me give you an idea, although i got no knowledge how you do it(im not a map maker), but I've seen some campaigns which have it..
you could separate the time when the heroes 'appear', example two/three heroes for one part of the mission(i.ex: capture 1~2 observatories), and have them removed from gameplay once the first part of the mission is completed, and THEN have the left two/three heroes(appear) accomplish the other part of the mission that's left.
Of course this might be too difficult to make, that's why I'm only suggesting this as I said, I got no knowledge in map making!

Just as Razosh said, this would be very easy to make.

Not sure though, I'll see what I can do, thanks for the suggestions :3

Razosh · Jul 19, 2013

tomoraider said:
Not sure though, I'll see what I can do, thanks for the suggestions :3

Well it would be pretty damn great to play as Sylvanas, she is after all a pretty cool character. So I really like knight26's idea.

tomoraider · Jul 19, 2013

Razosh said:
Well it would be pretty damn great to play as Sylvanas, she is after all a pretty cool character. So I really like knight26's idea.

She's going to be playable in one other map.

The reason why I don't want to make her playable in every map she appears in is because I already made another campaign for her. Blood elves also appeared in her campaign and they weren't playable there.

Oh, and I've started working on the campaign again. Will probably finish chapter six soon.

Razosh · Jul 19, 2013

tomoraider said:
She's going to be playable in one other map.

The reason why I don't want to make her playable in every map she appears in is because I already made another campaign for her. Blood elves also appeared in her campaign and they weren't playable there.

Oh, and I've started working on the campaign again. Will probably finish chapter six soon.

Well still, you could make the entire campaign focused around the sin'dorei and still include some Sylvanas gameplay without taking the focus away from the sin'dorei, but as long as she is playable in another map I'm super happy.

tomoraider · Jul 19, 2013

I just got an idea how I could sort out the 5 heroes problem. I'll just make the enemy AI stronger and attack more often, to even it out.

knight26 · Jul 19, 2013

tomoraider said:
I just got an idea how I could sort out the 5 heroes problem. I'll just make the enemy AI stronger and attack more often, to even it out.

Well you could do that, but still I would hate it if I prepared for an attack and went out with some of my heroes, and the enemy attacks my camp at the same time. In most cases I'd end up losing many troops/towers in the base, also failing the attack with the other strike group.
That's why I think 5 heroes at once requires great focus, not impossible of course, just hard. *Unless as I said earlier i get some tank heroes(something similar to Varian in the Forsaken campaign), I suppose that would even the odds, but from the screenshot, I see more ranged/agility and mage/intellect heroes :vw_death:

Edit: nevermind, after reading the new spell changes and the new unit(blood knight), I suppose it's fair the way it is, I mean some challenge wont hurt

tomoraider · Jul 19, 2013

knight26 said:
Well you could do that, but still I would hate it if I prepared for an attack and went out with some of my heroes, and the enemy attacks my camp at the same time. In most cases I'd end up losing many troops/towers in the base, also failing the attack with the other strike group.
That's why I think 5 heroes at once requires great focus, not impossible of course, just hard. *Unless as I said earlier i get some tank heroes(something similar to Varian in the Forsaken campaign), I suppose that would even the odds, but from the screenshot, I see more ranged/agility and mage/intellect heroes
Edit: nevermind, after reading the new spell changes and the new unit(blood knight), I suppose it's fair the way it is, I mean some challenge wont hurt

I don't think it will be that hard, one hero is a healing one as well. Once I test the map when it's done, I'll let you know :3

Razosh · Jul 19, 2013

You could always make one camp that always function as a work site with no military structures what so ever and one with only military structures so you need to defend the road between the two.

sniper_zero · Jul 21, 2013

Can I ask where you got the Blood Knight model?

tomoraider · Jul 21, 2013

sniper_zero said:
Can I ask where you got the Blood Knight model?

It's just the basic sentry (is it called sentry?) model, but I used the skin by 67chrome and added a sword and a shield I found here on hive.

sniper_zero · Jul 21, 2013

The shield is the queensland one right? Do you know the name of the sword?

tomoraider · Jul 21, 2013

Yes it's the queensland one, and I think the sword is the obsidian runeblade.

sniper_zero · Jul 21, 2013

Thanks!

tomoraider · Jul 22, 2013

Chapter Six is done!

sniper_zero · Jul 22, 2013

I can almost smell magic in the air.

rcshaggy · Jul 22, 2013

Well I will be looking forward to it man, and I cant wait to get into this game again.

tomoraider · Jul 25, 2013

New title picture on the first post!

Just to mention, because people might ask, I know she's not a blood elf, but this will be explained in the storyline, and you'll find out once I release the campaign.

The picture might also receive some minor changes.

sniper_zero · Jul 25, 2013

I'm guessing she'll have smething to do with phoenixes. Will she be playable?

knight26 · Jul 25, 2013

tomorider,
my guess is this, there will be a final/ pre-final map where the sorceress will summon a huge phoenix, but you have to protect her a certain amount of time. (Like protecting Kel-thuzad in RoC original campaign). :3

tomoraider · Jul 25, 2013

I won't reveal anything :3

knight26 · Jul 25, 2013

tomoraider said:
I won't reveal anything :3

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sniper_zero · Jul 26, 2013

Oh yeah, about Alessandra's spells...I was wondering why Soul Burn sounded familiar then I realized the Fire Lord also has an ability called Soul Burn. Maybe you should change it?

tomoraider · Jul 26, 2013

sniper_zero said:
Oh yeah, about Alessandra's spells...I was wondering why Soul Burn sounded familiar then I realized the Fire Lord also has an ability called Soul Burn. Maybe you should change it?

It's not the same spell, it's just the same name.

tomoraider · Jul 28, 2013

BUMP: The front page has been updated, the titles are now pictures.

And a new screenshot from Chapter Seven. The terrain in the back doesn't look very good because it isn't finished yet, I just wanted to show the atmosphere of the map.

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sniper_zero · Jul 29, 2013

Nice fog. Makes you feel like something's going to jump you any moment. And you've been using those fences a lot, haven't you? Not that it's a bad thing.

tomoraider · Jul 29, 2013

sniper_zero said:
Nice fog. Makes you feel like something's going to jump you any moment. And you've been using those fences a lot, haven't you? Not that it's a bad thing.

That's exactly the kind of atmospehere I wanna create. And I have? I haven't really noticed.

god1ess · Jul 30, 2013

Now that front page got a lot more prettier, i am gonna check the progress more often.

tomoraider · Jul 31, 2013

New screenshot from Chapter Seven! My project also made it into the poll for Project Spotlight of July, thanks to all those who nominated me, I hope to win the poll as well :3

Razosh · Jul 31, 2013

Splendid, from this one we can safely say that Sylvanas Windrunner will be playeble in chapter 7.

[Campaign] Rise of the Blood Elves - Enchanted Edition

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