Race Discussion

[Misha]

so.. that's one ability hopefully sorted in the PM, eh Chaos? :3

 

[Crazy Cow]

I could do a bit of work over the weekend for your race, if you want. I can GUI trigger, and maybe see if I can get some buildings for your elemental race.

 

[VeljkoM]

That is Chaos duty since he already made most ideas already.

 

[Chaos.]

Actually a little break wouldn't be that bad. It's not so much the ideas that I am needing the most, it's the motivation and time to work for more then 10-20 minutes at a time. And weekends are when I'm most busy, so that would be perfect. It would definatly get things done faster.

What do you mean by that, Crazy Cow? Do you mean that you can make some buildings, find some, or get some one else to make some? Which ever one, that would be great.

Well hopefully (it's hard to predict how much free time I will have) this weekend I will be able to send you and Misha the map with what I got so far. I want to get as much as possible done before the 19th because I have a friend coming to visit for a few weeks and I won't have much time to work on it. So you can expect at least a test map by the 19th. And during that time maybe someone else could continue working on it till I am able to work on it again.

 

[VeljkoM]

Chaos is going on vacation? But who will save us from dreaded spam?

Well with more people there are more ideas.

 

[Chaos.]

Vacation, no. I will have time to check this group daily. I just won't have time to sit down and work on the race much. Normally when ever I have plans through out the day, the only thing warcraft related that I am motivated to do is check this site. And since we will be having a blast 24/7 I won't have the motivation to sit down and mod. I'd prefer to be hanging with him. Don't worry I'll be here.

 

[VeljkoM]

I know what you mean. I too need to work on many projects but I don't have will or time...

 

[Crazy Cow]

I'll try to make some buildings for you, and perhaps some units. What do you need?
By the way, when you send me your WIP I need to know what it is you need from me, and if I'm allowed to make my own little adjustments. Will you have that info on the map, or send it to me?

 

[Chaos.]

All of them. lol. I have some current place holders for buildings but the don't suit the race.

At the top of the list of needed buildings would be the altar. It would have to be something that shows all four elements on one building.

 

[Crazy Cow]

Ok, an altar would be a start. Give me a bit of time and an altar you will have.

 

[Misha]

I like the altar as a circle of power base, surrounded with elemental crystals or raging elements C:

 

[Crazy Cow]

I was thinking an Orc altar, with the statue cut off and four elemental orbs floating above it. Sound good enough?

 

[Chaos.]

Personally I like Crazy Cow's concept more. The circle of power as a base wouldn't look like much of an altar.

 

[Misha]

How about we make a compromise and combine the Circle of Power, add the animated lightning from orc altar (base model)

so we kinda.. keep the steps of the orc altar, replace that Statue with the Circle and add elemental pillars, while keeping that lightning?

 

[Crazy Cow]

Ok, sounds good.

 

[Misha]

cool that we found an agreement :3

 

[Chaos.]

Well, Here is a quick concept art of an idea for the town hall. Opinions. (on the concept, obviously not on the art. The art is crap.)

 

[Crazy Cow]

A good idea, I think. However, I think we need to be more creative with future ideas, because using only orbs would get boring after a while.
The art, by the way, is fine. I doubt I would be able to do any better.

 

[Tleno]

Well, looks descent enough for me, just don't overuse the idea, like Cow said.

 

[Misha]

nice concept..

 

[Chaos.]

Any takers? lol (for making it, that is)

And yes the main and the altar will be the only ones with orbs. Those are the only two buildings that need to represent all 4 elements in one. And orbs are the easiest way to show this.

Although I did have another idea (that wouldn't really be a building) that uses the orbs. And that is for the elemental seed. The elemental seed would be a crystal model. All units except Helot and Adherent will be created from there. If, for example, you choose to train a fire elemental then the crystal would turn into a fire orb throughout the training process. Once the fire unit is finished being trained then the orb will be destroyed. So then it gives the appearance that the fire elemental is being created from an egg of fire. I think that it would look cool. Opinions.

 

[Michael Peppers]

It's a cool concept, though you'd have to trigger the various train animations according to which unit is being trained and then stop them manually. But, again, it's a badass idea.

EDIT: You may also edit some spells with gold and lumber cost and use them to train the units, thus setting the animations in the spells, but it does seem, like, overkill for that.

 

[Crazy Cow]

Ok, I finished the altar. Do you want it now, Chaos? I'll post a picture of it in a few minutes.
I would be fine making the Town Hall, too, if you think I did well enough with the altar.

 

[Misha]

let "me" judge that model :3

 

[GhostThruster]

Well, unless the orb is really cheap and fast to build, or the soldiers are really strong, than it is a bit unfair on the elementals. Maybe you should have a few buildings, and the orbs can serve as 'houses'. For each orb you build of a certain element, you may build # more units with the corresponding element. e.g. If I build 2 orbs of fire, I can train 8 fire soldiers.

 

[Michael Peppers]

As a player I guess I'd build multiple elemental seeds, since they don't seem to have a lot of other barracks anyway.
Also, the idea of "orb" houses is interesting...

 

[Chaos.]

the Elemental seeds don't take any time at all (nor have cost, think zerg). Every 30 seconds of the game a new seed is created. But if that proves to be too long while testing then I will decrease that.

That is kind of like Misha's idea except the number and level of units depends on the number of towers.

 

[Misha]

I'd reject Ghost's and Michael's ideas atm.. those are my elementals, after all..

 

[Michael Peppers]

Heh, no worries... my best ideas are reserved for my races anyway =D

 

[GhostThruster]

Well, I try.

 

[Chaos.]

Btw, I still need names for basic melee (earth), siege (earth), light flying unit (air), and second spellcaster (air). Any ideas?

 

[Tleno]

Basic melee? Maybe some kinda like mud or earth spawn?

 

[Misha]

haven't we thought about those already?

 

[Chaos.]

Nope.

 

[Misha]

hmm... basic.. mud golem Ouo, why not?

Siege... for what did we used the Nelth again?.

air.. Gust flier? Gust spirit?

 

[GhostThruster]

Basic melee-Earthshatter, I dunno. Siege-What about a fire-based siege unit like Blaze Whirlwind? 2nd Caster-Tempest...Light Flyer-Gustwing, Gusthawk? Swap some names around maybe as well.

 

[Misha]

nice ideas.

 

[Chaos.]

Mud golem is very unnoriginal.
Neltharian Brawler is the advanced melee.
Earthshatter sounds more like an ability then a name. But for now i'll use it.
We have too many fire units. Siege needs to be earth.
Tempest. Perfect, I think I remember someone suggesting that one already. I just forgot about it. But do you think that the word 'tempest' (a violent storm) would work on it's own as a unit name or should we add something to it? (something like Tempest mage.)
Gust Spirit would probably suit best.

 

[Tleno]

Yeah, gust spirit is the best. I vote for it. And I think someone recommended Tempest to be building...

 

[Misha]

Temple of the tempest? Ouo
meh..

 

[GhostThruster]

Dude, I was the one who suggested tempest (p)ages ago! lol
What about Whirlwind as a name?
Basic melee-Legionary of Stone...
Siege-Devestator

 

[Misha]

nope and nope, both names sound a bit dull

something a bit more original?

 

[Tleno]

Well Whirlwind would sound nice if there already wouldn't be an ability called that way...

 

[Michael Peppers]

Mud Minion? Maybe Muck is better, but both Mud and Muck suggest a quite fragile unit.

 

[Tleno]

Well, its as plain as my Mud golem, altough I like this one more. But let Misha decide.

 

[Misha]

Muck Manifest?
Mud Manifest?

or just Mud Golem.. i'll settle for one of those three.

 

[Tleno]

Mud Golem. Earth units, esspecially basic ones, should be really simple ones and what can be simplier than mud golem?

 

[Misha]

Mud golem it is :3

Next!

 

[GhostThruster]

What will the siege unit be like? Organic and humanoid, or machinery, or some other shit?

 

[Misha]

I'd like the siege to be something.. like.. moving rocks but as a cluster, without form. Or a large rock roller