Race Discussion

[Misha]

no shop :3
elementals want vengeance, not shopping sprees

 

[Chaos.]

K, good.

 

[Tleno]

No, then it will be unbalanced, comparing to other races...

 

[Misha]

okaaaay.. then some simple usable items in the main building?

 

[Tleno]

Maybe... and what about stronger items?

 

[Chaos.]

Not in the main. It would make it look cluttered.

 

[Misha]

shop it is then :/

god i hate being overruled..

 

[Tleno]

Towers? Research buildings?

 

[Misha]

Oh i know C: instead of a building, you summon a temporary shop from main building?

Lul a ward-shop

 

[Tleno]

No, I meant to say those could be used as shops... summon idea is great, I also tough that, well, heros can have that skill, but using it costs a few gold...

 

[Chaos.]

@Misha, lol.
Looks like shop is back on the menu. lulz

 

[Misha]

there we have it, a ward shop :3

hmm.. how many buildings we have?
we should maybe have some more buildings to be required for a certain unit to be grown out at main building :3

 

[Chaos.]

well, at least 8.
Main hall
Food
Altar
One building for each element (4)
One tower (turns into others.)

So we have space for 3 more if you have other ideas.

 

[Misha]

*cough*elemental sacricifal pit*cough*

 

[Tleno]

*cough* elemental stripteasse club *cough*?
I'm just sayin'... Actually I tough about buildable tower-like object which is invisible and can detect stealthy units...

 

[AIagremm]

Invisble detects invisible? Sounds totally logical and crazy at the same moment.

Also did you know that elementals were females in WCI?

 

[Tleno]

You know, some kinda like magical elemental orb that can be invisible and detects invisible enemies... like observer...

 

[VeljkoM]

Or shade. So it should be something made of air or be underground?

 

[Misha]

Yes but a shade is a ghost...

an elemental observer would be a better idea C:

 

[VeljkoM]

No i meant air scout unit that flies around or underground moving unit (like infestor). Every race needs one scout unit.

 

[Tleno]

I say some kinda like protoss observeer...

 

[VeljkoM]

Airbornl scout than.

 

[Tleno]

Yup. Some kinda like eye made of clouds...

Did you said:

Ariel?

 

[VeljkoM]

Yea...couldn't remember latin for air...

 

[Misha]

why not an earth elemental spy :3 underground

 

[AIagremm]

I say a flying elemental thingy... Ariel Relic?

 

[VeljkoM]

In the end it will morph in both earth and air. Like Air can move but Earth is stronger? Or better make air scout and earth unit based of Lurker but because warcraft has less detectors it should be visible when attacking. Like spikes from ground piercing poor units.

 

[Chaos.]

Imo, the earth spy sounds better to me then the air.

 

[VeljkoM]

Could he be upgraded to attack? Oh and what model would be for him? Burrow model but with golem portrait?

 

[Misha]

An underground elemental essence as spy. finished, finito :3

NEXT!

 

[VeljkoM]

No attack... Well about towers the first should be not elemental and upgrades should be for each element.
Earth would have high splash attack and maybe ability to go underground to hide os something.
Water would be healing or something aiding unis.
Fire could have phoenix ability to attack many units at same time and burn them.
Wind...maybe we could skip one or give it "Recall" ability but no attack.

 

[Misha]

we'll discuss abilities later Veljo :3

NEXT! XD

 

[VeljkoM]

It is for towers. Chaos said that we'll have morphing towers.

 

[Chaos.]

The starting tower will be a crystal that turns into the others.
Earth with high splash would be the obvious choice. That is why I don't want to do it, lol. it's just too expected.. I prefer the idea of the zerg tower ability. It isn't necisarily original but I don't think that it has been done for a tower in a warcraft 3 race.
Yes, water will have something similar to the moon well ability.
My idea for the air would be to have the moon glaive type attack. That hits one and moves to another.

 

[VeljkoM]

Earth then cold auto cast earthquakes? Just change the model of burning oil to Thrall ultimate.
For water I thought more like fountain ability (idea is from Battle for Middle earth) but maybe it shouldn't attack.
Maybe having air casting something is better than just attacking. There wouldn't be much point if all tower just attacked. Better is if you could choose tower with specific ability which could be used to ether aid you or harm enemy. If all towers attacked it would be like Human or undead tower s system.

 

[Chaos.]

water tower won't attack. It just heals.
Earth has a high damage anti ground attack.
Air does weak damage but can hit multiple. And can target flying units.
Fire? Maybe a buff?

 

[VeljkoM]

Better fire to have multiple attack based of phoenix ability (and mainly fire hurts) and air to give buffs.
I suggested recall ability because it kinda would be cool if it would transport units.

 

[Misha]

elemental tower of fire is called "Firecharger", normally it should have a burn aura. maybe extended red immolation.

and.. i wouldn't give it attack.. i dunno..

 

[StormWarriors2]

It died before it began :*(.

 

[Tleno]

What? What are you talking about and why you're off topic?

 

[Chaos.]

LoL, its not dead. It is no where near dead. It is well over 50% done.

 

[Misha]

lol..

what else do we need for my elementals?

 

[Chaos.]

Atm, ideas for abilities. Later when I have more time I will post the list of completed abilities and the list of ones I need ideas for.

Also names for towers and upgrade buildings.

 

[Misha]

well two merges to create strongest elementals

 

[GhostThruster]

Are you gonna use Thunder elementals?

 

[AIagremm]

Lighting is the fifth element, f*ck avatar for saying its part of fire element.

But if you believe in french movies... dont make Love the fifth element man!

 

[GhostThruster]

Lightning is fire? Why don't they just say lava is wind?! So is there gonna be Thunder, or does it fit in the Air/sky category?

 

[Tleno]

Lightning can be combination of fire/wind. Lava is Fire/Earth. Wind/Earth is sand...
Sounds like all that D&D cosmology... we could steal few elements from there...

 

[Misha]

Exactly tleno :3 just like that, combining. but more like turning the few elementals into somewhat "natural disaster" types than pure new element.

 

[AIagremm]

Lightning is the fifth element. Fire and wind is storm, wind and water is ice, earth and fire is lava, earth and water is... mud and fire and water is steam. And of course sand.
However I belive that combining all four(and fifth sometimes) results life.