Playable terrain competition?

[Mr.Goblin]

Hey i was wondering if instead of doing a terrain competition (you take a screenshot and thats all) you have to make a terrain of a ''x'' game.. with some restriction..

(the X game would be a game with hero's already created an markets and items.. for example)

the restriction would be...
-Need a village..
-Need a dongeon
-Need a forest
-Need a montain
-Need a Lac

for example... and than we would have to recreate the Hole terrain.. with doodads.. from the UTM for example.. and the one that makes the most beautyfull and playable terrain wins... it could take alot of time to make... but could be pretty fun... and it would be a way to create the most unbelivable map.. cause imagine if we do this..

put the winner spells of the spells competition and put it in the game..
put the winner hero of the hero's concept competition and put it in the game again..
etc..etc..etc... and put ALL of them together.. we could have the most epic game ever created... (almost) and the final touch could be done by the Hive's members..

its just a simple idea.. but could be somehow awsome.. i think..

 

[~Void~]

I'm all for it. Winter/Glacial theme!

 

[CrashLemon]

Very good idea.

 

[Mr.Goblin]

I'm all for it. Winter/Glacial theme!

dude .. you complelty read in my mind... its even scary how i wanted that theme.

o()o

 

[Airandius]

Lol, I might join, but I hate UTM, so I will only join if it's no import! xD
UTM is so overused by people..

I suggest it should stick to a certain map-type.
Like make a tower defense terrain, make a rts terrain, or make a futuristic survival terrain on the north pole!

 

[Hawkwing]

This could be a style/theme for the Terrain Contest, but not a whole contest on it's own, some fairly extensive changes would need to take place for that.

 

[ragingspeedhorn]

An actual melee-map creation contest would be cool, not just "playable terrain lolzlzlzlzlzl 4 da HERO WoW WAR MAP!!!!"

 

[bounty hunter2]

dude .. you complelty read in my mind... its even scary how i wanted that theme.

o()o

its the time of the season where everyone thinks the same

 

[Airandius]

An actual melee-map creation contest would be cool, not just "playable terrain lolzlzlzlzlzl 4 da HERO WoW WAR MAP!!!!"

true that

 

[kewlthis]

Sounds good, but putting spells like nature, link, holy to same hero(whatever has been hosted). Could be pretty weird. And I dont think there are many hero contests to take ready heroes from. Also who would import them?

 

[Mechmap]

Playable terrains are my favorite and melee sounds good too. Hope this turns out to something good.

 

[bounty hunter2]

Playable good - melee - meh

 

[cool_is_i]

Im 120% in
Great idea.
Im up for no imports

 

[Linaze]

If it get's hosted with the "theme" melee map, i'd say no imports nor the UTM should be used, as that'd be very weird in the world of melee.

 

[Hawkwing]

If it get's hosted with the "theme" melee map, i'd say no imports nor the UTM should be used, as that'd be very weird in the world of melee.

That would probably be the best option.

 

[~Void~]

An actual melee-map creation contest would be cool, not just "playable terrain lolzlzlzlzlzl 4 da HERO WoW WAR MAP!!!!"

Melee maps are so restricting.

 

[Sabertooth]

Doesn't mean they can't be awesome, though. I think it'd be a pretty good idea. But not a terrain competition theme, it should be a small seperate competition.

 

[~Void~]

Nah, with melee maps you have to put in creep spots and make it open enough for people to build in, which sucks. I would rather just do a terrain that is playable in general and not for any kind of map in specific.

 

[Mr.Goblin]

well my idea was more close to Void's than a melee map.. really... like i came out with .. putting all the other contest together.. but.. the main idea was to make like the hole terrain for a 95x95 map size.. example.. or to make like simply a hole castel..etc..etc..

rather than a screenshot..

and also, one of the thing we should do.. is posting the best 3 screenshots of our terrain.. for the poll.. thing..

 

[sk8er754]

Something like this? http://www.hiveworkshop.com/forums/f202/castle-siege-41720/

Have the walls and the keep in the middle all walkable with stairs and stuff. You build inside a gigantic castle of yours and just fight it out.

Defiantly would like to walk through it in 3rd person.

 

[Devine]

Melee
no imports
playable
one season
but ehm i do think you should be able to pick your doodads from other sets
but should it be allowed to change doodads in the object manager? (Y/N)

 

[cool_is_i]

a melee map woudent be so bad,
i think i would prefer it actually

im still up for no imports

 

[bounty hunter2]

Melee map isn't so much about terrain. As Void said there must be big places to build on.

 

[Airandius]

Melee map isn't so much about terrain. As Void said there must be big places to build on.

The fact that it´s a melee map gives it restrictions.
So there is less to choose from, there are more things to think about.
And generaly it´s way more challenging to create a good melee map, then just a good terrain.
Also it´s hard to see for normal terrains who is the best, mainly because the one might just make a random castle were people can fight in, and somebody else can just make an underground maze.

I vote for melee map. But with the option of editing doodads, and no imports will also make it better.
Lalala, let´s add uberz hax 1337 doodadz and we shall pwnz contest for real !

So.. no imports.

 

[bounty hunter2]

I agree with the no import part. I mean a melee map can be chalenging to make.

 

[Mr.Goblin]

the sucky part about the melee map.. is that EVERY THING! need to be as a mirror.. so its more balanced.. for each placer... why it sucks.. cause we can't let our imaginations out...

so... 100% for NO MELEE map..

 

[Airandius]

the sucky part about the melee map.. is that EVERY THING! need to be as a mirror.. so its more balanced.. for each placer... why it sucks.. cause we can't let our imaginations out...

so... 100% for NO MELEE map..

Mirrored maps? What are you talking about, sure the skeleton itself has to be mirrored a bit. But it still allows a lot of variation, sides blizzard made a lot of melee maps that ain't mirrored.

You just have to make sure, if you give 1 player a second gold mine, all of them should have a second gold mine at somewhat the same distance.
Stuff like that, obviously u didn't play much melee.

 

[cool_is_i]

The terrain on blizz melee maps sucks....
I guarantee that any one of us can do a better job,
I was trying to start a melee map some time back.. never go to it...

melee maps dont have to be mirrored... but mirroring it will help.

 

[Devine]

Okay .... melee map with no imports but you can edit doodads.
By the way, a melee map doesn't have to be restricted. You can always make a kickass center creep camp with an awesome base or something

 

[Linaze]

So an idea is a melee map making contest where you are to use no imports whatsoever, sounds interesting, but this is a very wide theme, isn't it?

 

[bounty hunter2]

import should be allowed

 

[X.e.r.e.X]

Imo we should make melee map ftw
P.S. Goblin... Stop... Using... Mass... Period... Spam... Pretty... Plox... Cookies...

 

[Airandius]

import should be allowed

No, if you use imports people will like your map more.
Example: OMG HE HAS UBER MODELZZ FTW HAX LOLOLOLO
That's how a lot of people think.

Besides it's a melee map, there is no need for imports, it will only increase the size. Imports are bad for contest, that's how I feel.

Maybe imports should be allowed. But in that case you should get a -10 points penalty. Cause imports are not needed if you're creative enough.

 

[X.e.r.e.X]

I agree with -->

 

[Belgarath]

1. no imports
2. size limits
3. choice of tileset OR winter
4. editable or non-editable doodads?
5. actually balanced placement of player starts, forests, mines and neutral buildings

 

[Mr.Goblin]

i don't really like the idea of a melee terrain really, like my main idea was simply make a terrain for a complete map.. instead of just a screenshot, why i said playable map.. :'(

but anyway, i see some people have some nice ideas so i would say..

I'll go with the flow!

 

[Belgarath]

Oh, not for melee? Well, that changes things..

 

[Gilles]

Poll time. Hawk add a poll with the options Melee and Playable.

Melee: Pretty obvious, you make a melee map. Balancing the bases, creep spawns, and overall map would be part of it.

Playable: Make a terrain, put down a unit to explore with, and the map will be judged from in-game. Triggers are allowed for camera movement if you want it, but the triggers themselves won't be judged.

 

[Hawkwing]

Done.

 

[~Void~]

No melee. Fuck melee. Melee terrain sucks, you have to BALANCE the fucking TERRAIN. In fact, melee GAMES suck. Not cool at all.

 

[Mr.Goblin]

No melee. Fuck melee. Melee terrain sucks, you have to BALANCE the fucking TERRAIN. In fact, melee GAMES suck. Not cool at all.

Amen!

 

[~Void~]

I say make a terrain for any map type you want, but limit the size of the map for the contest to something like 96x96 or 128x128.