Naga Fans

[Chaos.]

no they will be like muradins dwarves.

 

[VeljkoM]

Thank god!I really hate WoW stories.
Maybe you can make their mission to be about surviving the undead attack wile trying to unite all living in Northrend.

 

[Chaos.]

lol.

good idea but i already have a storyline

The story line for dwarvs-(still working on it) Arthas is advancing towards the dwarves. A messenger (kind of like the medivh idea in the ROC campaign) comes to the dwarves to tell them that arthas is too powerful for them to take on themselves but there is a way. before the titans left the world of azeroth they left with each race a sacrid artifact that, when all ten are united, could defeat any foe. These artifacts are locked in a vault that can only be open with a special chant if you could defend me, i will open it.
Guest defend (no name yet) for 20 minutes while he opens this vault.

each lvl will be the same idea but i will add option quests and stuff like that to make each one different so its not all repetative.

 

[VeljkoM]

So give optional quest Save Spiders!

 

[Power]

tha image i have founded but i forgoted to upload http://www.hiveworkshop.com/forums/groups/naga+fans/pictures/8239-naga/

 

[VeljkoM]

It is already there.

 

[Power]

yea i know that

 

[Power]

VeljkoM you can create models ???

 

[Power]

gys my naga icons http://www.hiveworkshop.com/forums/pastebin.php?id=ozdfle

 

[VeljkoM]

I like them.

 

[Chaos.]

nice pics icon maker but i already have that last one
veljkom- i think i will use that option quest. good idea thx.

 

[VeljkoM]

I can give you ideas if you like.

 

[Chaos.]

i could deffinitly use some ideas. especially for optional quests. but what i need even more are the terrains. are you good with terraining? i want these to look epic so i dont want just anyone helping to make the maps. but if you think that you are good at it then i could deffinetly use the help. if you want to help plz say so and ill give you details on what my map will look like. if you want to join me in making this campaign then you are welcome to.

 

[VeljkoM]

I am not good terrainer.

 

[Chaos.]

i just looked at your icons iconmaker and there pretty good. i think i like your tidebaron better then the original one. lol. ill eventually need icons for my buildings that im making in WE so if you want to join my project as well i could sure use ya.

 

[Chaos.]

thats too bad, oh well, can you do anything else

 

[VeljkoM]

I know to trigger little and to use object editor.But I don't know if I have time because of the real life and other projects.

 

[Chaos.]

Np, i understand. but i would still appreciate any ideas that you have so if you have any feel free to post them

 

[Chaos.]

im now working on my draenei race. any ideas on a good draenei air?

 

[Chaos.]

Well ive decided to make The Fate of Outland campaign first. the main reason is that there is alot less work(having only 3 races instead of 10).
i am almost completety done the units and buildings for my fel orc race and almost completed the draenei buildings. So varsaigen i could deffinetly use your draenei mage whenever your done(again, take your time, no rush). for the blood elves i have barely any building but i do have most of the units. i just hope that SinisterX releases his BE buildings from Wc3campaigns. i will pm him later. maybe if i do a good job on this one, more ppl might help me to make the Fate of Azeroth campaign.

Story line- it will be similar to the Fate of Azeroth exept for the enemy is illidan.
After ruling over outland for several years, his hunger for power grew more and more until he became a seemingly unstoppable foe. He wanted more power. he warned all the races that they could either be ruled by him or be destroyed. not submiting to this demons wishes angered illidan greatly. so he seeks out to destroy the races of outland and claim it for him self. he even betrays kale and the blood elves who had previously served him. The races of outland unite to take on a common enemy. even the barbaric fel orcs join the cause. Illidans power has grown to a tremendous level. the only way for them to defeat him is to (still think of this part, ill need to do a bit of research) you must stall him until (x) is summoned(probably be one of the titans).
just like the other campaign i will add optional quests to make it more interesting.
i was honestly debating whether or not to put in lady vashjs naga. but i personally dont think that naga go good in outland. so i probably wont.
What do you think. Any ideas plz post them

 

[VeljkoM]

Well Naga are still with Illidan.
This maybe better idea but how will you put Dranei?Only Akama and his Dranei are in Out land.
You should maybe make it so it would be like civil war.Races divided and are fighting each other.Like some fel orcs are commanded by Erader and some want their freedom.
And the way to defeat him is to use power of Black Temple against him.You would have to destroy outer defenses and make your way to some place.
The first mission should be running from Illidans forces and gathering any help...

 

[Power]

we must upload them!!!!!

 

[Chaos.]

well remember that it doesnt have to be exactly as blizzard made it so it doesnt matter that the drainei are in outland during the time of illidan. and i cant make them all fight each because i cant put more then one race in one map and still make them the way i want(too big file size). i like the idea about the power of the black temple. ill have to think about that one more. and i also like the idea of running from illidan to go get help. i really would prefer to make it more then a 3 lvl campaign. lol. i can honestly say that the races are goin well and i think that when there done they will be epic. lol. i still need and idea for a draenei air if you guys have any. i would also like to give each race new spells so if you guys have any ideas plz share them. oh ya and about the naga ill just say that in illidans wrath, he wiped out vashj's naga. it will be a sad moment but we will survive. lol

iconmaker-what do you mean by "we must upload them"

 

[Power]

the naga icons !!!!

 

[Chaos.]

for sure, i would prefer to use your icons over the others for my naga race.

 

[VeljkoM]

You can do what I did in my maps.One race to be yours and evil to be actually race just changed.Give orcs fel units and demons and you use your race.

 

[Chaos.]

well ive come up with a basic storyline, more detail will be added to it when im finished making the races. (ive used several of your ideas, thnx.)

Introlude- Illidan is with lady vashj, kale, and some other naga and BE. lady vashj makes a comment that angers illidan greatly and kale agrees with it. illidan gets pissed and in his anger he kills vashj. and before he can kill kale, he along with the blood elves and remaining naga tp away. Making illidan even more ticked off. he vows to destroy every last race in outland including his once loyal followers.

Chapter one- kale and the remaining naga must build a settlement to defend from illidans demonic forces that he sends.(yes ive decided to use the naga, just that lady vashj wont be in it, Naga commander, royal guard, will take command of the naga)
You will control both naga and blood elf forces.

Chapter two-The BE and naga find a group of fel orcs fighting off some of illidans demons, and they decide to help them, (The fel have changed since the death of their master magtheridon, although they kept their physical appearance their bloodlust was gone from their souls.) They unite with kale to fight illidan and regain their freedom from the new Lord of outland, illidan.

Chapter three- In this lvl the forces of BE, naga, and fel orc, meet with the draenei.(i still want to use the wow style draenei but akamas draenei need to go in this campaign so ill use both, the broken and the wow style draenei.) in this lvl they will meet up with akamas draenei. in this lvl you will control the fel orc and the BE and naga will be controlled by the computer

Chapter four-They find a lost child, draenei (the wow style draenei.) the child tells them that illidan has found there hide out and has taken there leader(A mage). You must free him from a cell that is on the other side of the map. you will control units from each race.

Chapter five-After freeing the Draenei mage, he tells you of a shard of the great crystal. In the center of a map is a portal that leads to a sacred land. in this land lies the magic shard that when placed with the rest of the crystal in the black temple can renew the broken draenei to there previous form and will also revive all the draenei that fell during the reign of magtheridon. You must protect the portal while the draenei mage is in the portal looking for the crystal.

Chapter six- the black temple. in this lvl you will have to take the shard to the crystal. once you do this, akama will turn back into his original form and the fallen draenei will be revived. you will have several draenei bases and units plus some BE, naga, and fel orcs. Now you just have to fight illidan(he will be very tough). Theis will be similar to the magtheridon lvl in TFT campaign.

Then you win the game. and this is how im going to include my 5 new race(Blood elf, naga, fel orcs, broken draenei and wow draenei into a campaign. what do you think

 

[Chaos.]

can some one who has already downlaoded the ellek knight tell me the path to it. i just now figured out how to import skins. but the ellek knight doesnt have a readme file that gives me the skin

 

[varsaigen]

either leave the path as is, or take off all of the "wc3mapimport" part, or go through the "Unit/Human/Footman/Footman.mdx" etc.

 

[Chaos.]

i just cant figure it out, ive tried like 20 different paths and cant get it to work. and its annoying the crap out of me. Can you do me a small favor that will take you about 5 minutes but will help me greatly can you put it in a map with all the paths and get it woking and just post the map here so then i can just copy the info into map map. i will even give you plus rep for helping out.

 

[VeljkoM]

Ask the guy who made that model.He knows.
And I will maybe give you more ideas latter but for know story is great.

 

[Chaos.]

well i just pm him. ive decided to take a break from making the races and start working on the terrain i am about 90% done the first map which will be the introlude cinematics

-Because of the major lack of BE buildings, ive decided to unite the BE and naga race as one. It also goes better with the storyline that way.
-Dranei buildings are pretty much done(exept i still need an air building, no ideas yet)
now that i have imported about four draenei skins my draenei units are about 75% done.
-Fel orc buildings are pretty much complete exept that i dont like the way that the Main buildins turned out so they will be changed probably. Units - just need 2 more and i know that there are some fel orc skins on this site so ill use those.
-Draenei(broken)-Im not going to worry about making an entire techtree for them. ill just make the basics(main, food, altar, barracks, and tower)
-Storyline, i have finished all the dialogue for the introlude and chapter one. i am currently working on chapter two.

Any time you have an idea feel free to share.
Thx for the feedback

 

[Chaos.]

hey does anyone know where(if there is one, if not ill request one) i can find a background for my map. I mean like when you have the camera view down look horizontally at the land you will see the sky in the distance. i need one for outland. do you know where i can find one.

 

[Chaos.]

yay i finally got the ellek knight to work.

 

[VeljkoM]

How did you do it?

 

[Chaos.]

i pm ed cavman and got the correct paths. you finally convinced me to pm him thx, lol

 

[VeljkoM]

"I am able to help".
In your map Illidan gets crazy right?What did Lady V said to him?
Something like:"You were our hope and you only used us!We gave believed in you an yet we are only scared by many battles and for what!Just so you could get more power!"

 

[Chaos.]

i like it. i included it, thx. this is the dialogue that i made for the intro( i changed apart in it to what you said. I like it better)

Illidan-(standing at the top of the black temple,alone, looking over outland) I want more... more power... i want all of it...
(lady vashj with some naga guards and Kael with some of his BE lieutenants come to illidan)
Lady vashj- My Lord, Akama and his draenei have claimed the lands to the north and i...
Illidan-What do you mean he "claimed" them.(sounding a little angered)
Lady Vashj-Well, my lord we did help you take this land. We deserve a land to call our own.
Illidan-(getting more ticked) This is my land, All of it is mine. There will be no claiming my land. (in his anger he destroys akamas village in the distance)
Lady Vashj-The draenei were your loyal followers. as we all were. (sounding upset and dissapointed) You were our hope. You only wanted to use us. We had faith in you and yet all we haved recieved are the scares from the many battles we fought beside you. And for what, just so you could get more power.
Illidan(now completed pissed off)-You dare speak to me like that.(illidan then kills lady vashj and then cast a spell that destroys her village)
Kael-Come my Brothers. this traitor has gone mad.(teleports to a path infront of the temple and starts running with his BE and the remaining naga)
Illidan-(looking down at him from his temple) I will destroy you Kael, you and every other race who denies my supremecy.

 

[Chaos.]

here`s some pics of what i got so far. There are some things that will change. i dont like the way that the fel main buildings and tower turned out. for the other pics with illidan i am still trying to find a background of outland to put in the map so that your not just looking at a black background. The terrain is isnt as "epic" as i want it to be be so i will perfect the map at some point.
Here are the pics
http://www.hiveworkshop.com/forums/members/153234-albums1154.html

And i think i just found my draenei air, its not draenei, but check it out and tell me, if you think that if i made the tinting a bit more blue, would it pass well for a draenei air.
http://www.hiveworkshop.com/forums/resource.php?t=115812
After i eat lunch i will start working on the Chapter one map.
Also i just got a cool idea when i was looking around on wowwiki. For the fel orcs after their master magtheridon was defeat they retreated to the Hellfire Citidal and it is there that you will have to help the fel orcs fight against illidan`s forces

 

[VeljkoM]

I almost want to fix that terrain there.I see only Illidans demon army.Add some other races that serve him.I don't like that much WoW but Illidari (stupid name) aren't just demons.
Well ok for Drenai.I mean it isn't like you can use something else.

 

[Chaos.]

well thx for the comments i kind of rushed the terrain to give you a pic. it is not complete. i will later change it to look more proffesional, dont worry about that. i just made a map to show you guys more or less what it will look like. And to give my self a basic map to get ideas from. I will do more research later on illidari units but for now i just threw in a bunch of demon models for. Dont worry about the terrain it will be improved alot before this campaign is released. I am not the most experiance map maker out there but i am a very quick learner and i spend hours every day reading tuturials and stuff like that trying to figure out how i can improve my map. Before i started this campaign, i barely even knew the basics of WE but in less then a month i have learned so much. So by the time this campaign is complete, it will be 100 times better then it looks now. Thx
Oh and what exactly do you mean less purple?

 

[VeljkoM]

Use normal colors for orc buildings.

 

[Chaos.]

but then they wouldn't be fel orcs they would be normal orcs and i want to make the a differant looking race than normal orcs. but you are right that the color needs to change ill play around with the tinting until i get it right. you never commented on the draenei buildings what do you think of them?

you know what i just realized... were almost at 200 posts,yay ya lol

 

[VeljkoM]

We are alive.
Well fel orcs are orcs.Blizzard also uses normal buildings.Maybe you should attach something on them like flags or bones and change tilelist under them.And color them little red.Dranei buildings are ok if you only use them for WoW dranei.
Maybe if you want I will help you with fixing maps.

 

[Chaos.]

im not too worried about the maps right now i just made a base map to work from so that i can finish the story line. when im finished the storyline 100% i will actually make the maps look awesome. But still, just think about it, even at the low quality state that the map is now, it is still better then alot of maps and campaigns on the hive, lol. i just finished playing a campaign that had terrible terrain. lol.
when im done the storyline ill fix the races to make the look cooler. remember that blizzard's goal with the fel orcs wasnt to make a completly new race like im trying to do.
Yes the draenei buildings are only for wow draenei. i will make a seperate tech tree for the broken draenei later.
If you want to save me some time then i will gladly let you help. Just let me finish the story line first, because somthings might change or i might want to add in some things.
Once im done that i could give you a few of the maps to edit and ill just do the others.
I think i could say that the story line, when finished, will be awesome. Ive got a few extra ideas that im going to through in.
keep posting ideas if you have any plz.
So what happened to varsaigen and iconmaker they barely ever post here anymore, lol

 

[VeljkoM]

Well this is naga fans group.You should make your thread were you will put your ideas.

 

[Chaos.]

i rather not waste my time making a thread. ppl have a bad habit of looking at my rep and ignoring me. lol. you guys would probaly be the only ones that post on it. that is what happened last time when i made a thread. lol. If this one goes well and it gets a good rating then i was thinking of making it a series called the Fate of Warcraft. which will include like Four other campaigns similar to this one whose name all start with Fate of.. Plus a continent of Azeroth. Like Fate of Northrend. Each Campaign will have custom races like this one does.
If i do end up making more, then ill make a group for it. But i want to finish this one first.

and about your offer to help with the terrains. I appreciate it but this is my first map that i will actually be finishing. and i think that i would rather do it all by myself. also im not the greatest mapmaker so i need the practice. but dont worry when im done with the terrains it will look awesome. I just want to do this one alone. when i make (if i do)
the other ones you would be more then welcome to help out. Thx for the offer though.

 

[VeljkoM]

It's ok.If you need anything just ask.

 

[Chaos.]

all i need right now are ideas for the map, answers for my questions, and opinions on the pics i show you.

Well i got board of writing the storyline and decide to play around with the terrain. here are my experiments, lol (first two). still not good enough but its better then the previous oned(atleast in my opinion)
-http://www.hiveworkshop.com/forums/members/153234-albums1154.html
What do you think of it so far.

How do you turn a doodad sideways. i was looking at some terrain pics on WC3C and there are a few pics that have the doodads turned sideways but i dont see anywhere, that i can do this in the object editor.

 

[VeljkoM]

Just double click on them and change rotation,