Naga Fans

[sacridshadow]

can you update the picture? I want to compare

 

[Misha]

can't atm, busy and i need to tweak and rerig the darn thing

 

[sacridshadow]

Isn't it just an issue of print screen and paste in paint, then submitting it to your gallery? Should take about ten minutes max.

 

[Misha]

http://www.hiveworkshop.com/forums/members/150504-albums1917-picture58215.html well there you go..

 

[sacridshadow]

That body does looks better. What other ideas did you have in mind for a drunk orc? I honestly can't think of anything more. Drunk isn't exactly a category of clothing. lol

 

[Misha]

well.. still gotta model the mug

 

[VeljkoM]

To bad you can't use his helmet as a mug.

 

[Misha]

that would be silly, and would leave a big hole in his head

 

[VeljkoM]

Give him a wig to hide the bold spot? Still when you add a mug (maybe easier to use pandas beer missile/spell effect?) what can be added more? He will have both hands full.

 

[Misha]

wouldn't know what else to add to him.. maybe to add back the grunt anims after the abomination?

 

[sacridshadow]

What animations are you thinking of? The Abomination I thought had extra bones, partially due to that extra arm.

You thinking of giving him drunk and sober animations?

 

[Misha]

yup.. think that would be good
+ would allow a space for a fancier weapon than grunt's axe

 

[Misha]

*knock knock* Oo

 

[VeljkoM]

Whos there?

 

[Misha]

a big red ball of plasma :b

is anyone still around the place?

 

[Chaos.]

I tend to look around every now and than. But I don't do much WC anymore.

 

[Misha]

neither do I

 

[Lore-Wolf]

me neither sadly.. and yes i think im still going to be here.. every very little once in a while

 

[Misha]

lol.. makes me think this group is liiiittle more active than starcraft group

 

[VeljkoM]

Its a tough race.

 

[Misha]

i've never cared about such activity races

 

[VeljkoM]

Cuz you are always on the winning side.

 

[Misha]

lmao..

 

[Krasus]

guys, back from the depths too...

and needing some feedback

http://www.hiveworkshop.com/forums/pastebin.php?id=bad1l9

 

[Misha]

there is a lill misunderstanding maybe? slave wagon system is by Tank Commander

 

[Krasus]

oh crap... well, I'm correcting that right now... along others mistakes in the map description

 

[Misha]

right.. btw.. why does the sorcerer have a summoner model?
warlord could maaybe use lill more mana
and why do we need two types of mur'gul slaves? Oo can' you add somethin like my sorcerer model, raising buildings like undead do and gathering gold the same way?
EDIT: coral beds could replenish health and mana instead

 

[Krasus]

well, about the summoner, I tried to make the naga race more akin to the campaign and not too undead-thingy... of course, I don´t say that this is the ultimate naga race, it's just a mere personal version

i dont' know about the coral beds... anyway, the azshara stone already replenish mana for the units...

also I hadn't figured out the 4th hero

 

[Misha]

as you wish :b i still find the stone thingie redundant

 

[VeljkoM]

-I agree with Misha the mana stone is redundant, better merge it with coral. Its not really worth to wait 3 tiers for it.
-The Slave lumber system is also redundant as regular murgul slaves carry 20 wood. Better get 4 regular slaves to get 80 wood then to get turtle slaves that get 25.
-The Sky hunter also feels out of place as it is really week and only reason to get it is net ability, better get couatl as they have higher damage.
-Murgul reavers are rather useless until they get HP upgrade. Really low health and weakest armor type possible doesn't make the foot troopers able to survive much.
-I was surprised to see that Royal Guard is intel hero when he looks like strength hero. And his ult is just evil. It actually literally kills after 10 seconds any unit targeted by it. The other hero just gets paladins lvl1 shield as ultimate with only mana cost and cooldown increased.
-There are icons problems like Shop icon being green, Upgrade Azshara's Will uses passive icon instead of regular and sorcerer activated auto cast is the disabled version.
-Turtle doesn't actually need upgrade to use devour.

These are the bugs and problems I found so far hope this helps in killing them.

 

[Krasus]

thanks for the advise Vel, a soon as I get back I'll try to fix those bugs...

as for the shop icon, it works for me, but it doesn't in others pc's (also, I've checked the pathing in the import manager and it's ok, so I have no idea what could be wrong :/ )

and the Reavers, yeah, they're weak (the idea was to have them spawned in pairs, but keeping them as cannon folder, you know, simmilar to the zergling in starcraft... but making them with low attack, so players won't rush every time -well that was the idea-) but yeah, at least i'm going to change the armor type al least

azshara's stone is going to be merged, don't worry; but doing so will leave an empty space for tier 3 building, so I'll have to think in something else

 

[VeljkoM]

Huh weird icon bug then. I don't have required knowledge to help you there.

Well the idea is ok about dual foot soldier its just need better armor, or HP upgrade in tier 1, or maybe third mur'gul upgrade? Guess also separate upgrades that cost less would be appreciated as default naga upgrades are expensive. Also zerglings work better as starcraft is more unit spam oriented RTS while Wc3 requires less units but stronger. Still better then that rather overpowered campaign reaver that costed 120 and had attack equal to grunt.

Well you could have higher tier upgrade building? Also, though it is abused concept, maybe a tier flyer building or special building for myrmidons? Usually race always has tier 3 building that produces their strongest unit.

I should also thank you, this map sort of inspired me to return to work after I get some free time.

 

[Misha]

hmm.. upgrading a spawning pool might be a good idea

 

[Misha]

lmao.. no-one has posted in a while

EDIT: http://www.hiveworkshop.com/forums/skins-552/coilfang-automaton-blp-218550/ here's something to perk everyone up

 

[Krasus]

Nice one Misha.

Funny enough, I thought of making an upgrade for the Myrmidon (as the berserk upgrade for the Trolls), changing them as mechanical/undead type (no hp regen, can only be repaired, etc)... I got the idea after reading The Road of Kings, by Karl Edward Wagner (summing up, it features the Final Guard; once living men, but thanks to nigromantic magic, they became indestructible warriors made of stone)

 

[Misha]

interesting although they shouldn't be like.. all upgraded instantly, i think something like a sacrifice altar's ability would be better :3 with a matching naga-ish building

 

[VeljkoM]

That wouldn't work as it only produces shades. Would be more balanced though as instant power up of most powerful unit can be great advantage.

 

[Misha]

it would be ridiculous if that shade-producing ability can't be altered O___o

 

[VeljkoM]

Well you can edit shade unit but think undead will notice new unit type.

 

[Misha]

... =.=' lol

 

[Krasus]

what about using the Destroyer Form ability? Perhaps it can be disabled the "unchange" option...

Anyway, if I get some free time i'll test if it works

 

[VeljkoM]

Just remember to edit it so they wouldn't change to swim animation. Think its easier when it is upgrade like buildings have. Think you have to make unit a building, add then "upgrade to" and then switch back to being unit.

 

[Lore-Wolf]

hey there all of you.. what did i hear? this whole ship i sinking?

 

[Misha]

if it is sinking, then we naga shall take over it >:]

hehh, naga domination aside, i hope something good turns out from this turmoil

 

[VeljkoM]

Lets wait and see.

 

[Misha]

and in the meanwhile.. how about we actually make our own competition? it should be something pretty everyone of us could do...

making the best naga underwater landscape? or maybe creating the best amphibian-war-tactic "melee" map for our naga to fight other races or themselves

 

[VeljkoM]

Heh would have to ask how would they breathe under water (non-nagas I mean). I will give it a try though someting tell me chaos wins if he joins.

 

[Misha]

well that's why it's either a landscape competition OR a playable amphibian map where naga can use water to their advantage while land-races should also be able to somehow get to the naga base

let's choose the one that'll give everyone a good chance

 

[VeljkoM]

Ok any competitors at all?

 

[Misha]

well.. me, you and if at least two more join, we'll have a legit competition