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Is Russia A Possible Threat?

Discussion in 'Off-Topic' started by Craka_J, Oct 15, 2007.

  1. Elenai

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    Indeed. I was really dreading the possibility of yet another religous forum war.

    So what about the drug wars in South America? What better threat to the US than rotting from the inside out, and not even realizing it?

    Afterall, more and more kids are getting drugs now. And a major provider is the thugs in the drug farms.

    The next generation is becoming slaves to drugs, and our future is the next generation.
     
  2. MySpaceBarBroke

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    In Soviet Russia, possible threat is YOU!!






    Just wanted to get it out of my system.
     
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  3. PurplePoot

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    In Soviet Russia, system gets out of YOU!!

    (note: MSBB, you forgot the 2 italicized exclamation marks at the end)

    The next generation needs to grow some brains... Meh, it's kinda like natural selection -.-
     
  4. Gilles

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    I don't think we should bother arguing further. I totally disagree with you. I'll brush up on my Crusade History though, in case I'm wrong. :wink:

    Do we need name calling? The old testament is old. Of course there was violence. The old testament goes against a lot of Catholic ideas today, but if you wish to know more, read the CCC. There is none in the new testament, Jesus was peaceful, and taught to love not hate.

    I'm sorry but I don't understand the last part. Sorry.

    Every generation has more education than the last. Unless you mean common sense. Many people lack that.
     
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  5. MySpaceBarBroke

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    He's saying a certain part of a group of people that gets the most attention is not synonymous with a certain part of a group of people that best represents that group of people as a whole.

    Now merge your posts.
     
  6. Shados

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    Nikola Tesla had apparently built 2/3 parts of his death ray, but the American government refused to give him funding. then when he died, the FBI ordered the Alien Affairs Office to confiscate all his belongings.

    -*meow*
     
  7. Gilles

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    Oh, thanks for clearing this up.

    In this case the aggressive ones are causing trouble, and the peaceful ones are just looking on and not really caring.
     
  8. seruk

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    You sir, are an idiot.

    You are a fool. An ignorant fool, with too much time on his hands. Have you ever even seen a muslim? Get yourself a picture what the religion stands for before you judge it as foolishly as you did.

    Here's the basics of Islam, it's based on 5 "pillars" which are the following.
    1, The creed. Way shorter than the christian one (which is repetive and generally just, stupid) "I testify that there is none worthy of worship except God and I testify that Muhammad is the Messenger of God."
    2, The prayer. Pray 5 times a day while facing the Kabaa in Mecca.
    3, The alms-giving. Give poor people stuff.
    4, The fasting. This speaks for itself.
    5, The pilgrimage. Journey to Mecca at least one time in your life unless you're crippled.
    And that's it. Do that and you're a muslim. You don't have to blow "infidels" up. Jihad is btw basically just fighting for the right cause (am I right?) and violence is the very last of the options.
     
  9. brad.dude03

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    Yes, the Islam religion is not violent and nature, and 90% of the Muslim people are moderates. It's the other 10%, the extremists, the ones who get all of the attention, that give Muslims a bad name.

    It's the same with Christianity. Most Christians are normal tempered average human beings, but there are some that are extreme and believe that homosexuals are monsters, etc.

    People should not judge a group by the actions of a minority, but by the actions of the majority.
     
  10. Gilles

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    Uhh, yeah actually I studied Islam last year. In brief though. I also see Muslim people everyday pretty much. I live beside a city that is mostly Indo-Canadian.

    Then why the hell would "Kill the Infidel" be in their Koran? Please read through my posts, I also said in a poll, a large amount of Muslins in England said they thought it wasn't a big deal that a train got bombed. They said maybe they deserved it.

    How about you stop being an "ignorant fool" to Christianity.

    Read history. How did Muhammad spread his religion? By the sword. How did Jesus? Love.

    True. But I'm judging by beliefs themselves.
     
  11. Jacek

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    according to thread title

    my opinion:

    USA is a way greater threat than Russia. How to defeat a country you don't like? Tell USA that some country has oil, YAY MARINES GOGO ATTACK
     
  12. Hakeem

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    In what context?
    No.
    No.
    No.
    Simply not true.
    He did not force anyone to become Muslim.
    No.
     
  13. TheDivineBoss

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    I wonder what politic subjet hasn't been compared with religion. Except atheist ones...
     
  14. Elenai

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    It is true that both Christianity and Islam are peaceful in majority, and their are extremists in both that are utterly ignorant.

    But to clear up some things.

    Muhammed was not only a religous leader but a political one, and so he may have "MAY" have used the sword to bring Mecca to Islam...But I am not for certain. Islam is a peaceful religion in the right hands. As is Christianity.

    Christ did not use violence to bring people to eternal salvation. So like Islam, Christianity is peaceful in the right hands. An example of this was the Arabs after Muhammed spreading Islam when they conquered the Arab areas in the Middle ages. An example of this is also the Christian way being spread when Europe imperialized. And it was not for God or in the name of Christ or in the name of spreading Christ that they spread it when they conquered. It was in the name of material possessions and land that they really did it. Just as any empire does. When they spread their religion went with them.

    It was in the hands of certain groups after these leaders, combined with greed, and other carnal things. That they were able to use these religions for violence.

    If you mean "political structure" then Scocialism/Communism is usually compared to Atheism.

    But back on topic....Russia, is not a threat.
     
  15. brad.dude03

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    Actually Muhammed used the religion of Islam to unite the warring Arabs, ceasing fighting that had been going on for ages.
     
  16. PurplePoot

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    One of the real religions Christianity/Roman Catholicism became popular was because of it being forced on the Romans by one or two Catholic emperors that got into power (then the rest of the following emperors were Catholic as a result)

    "By the sword"

    So even if Muhammad did, Catholicism didn't do any better.
     
  17. TheDivineBoss

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    It's all allways just a ''Do it or experience the consequences''-thing. Don't want to tire my hands by typing long examples.
     
  18. Elenai

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    Dont forget to mention the Christian suffering under the pagan Emperors.

    And yes while Islam did use the sword, Catholicism did'nt do any better. BUT!!! As said before the majority was peaceful. A minority used it as a weapon. And the people being devout were also used through the minority.

    Similar to how today terrorist minorities are able to radicalize peaceful or moderates into evil action.
     
  19. Gilles

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    Huh, I was reading some stuff on the net. I read that infidel is not isn't even in the Koran at all. There are some common misunderstandings along those lines, but this is only one compared to the many things I've read saying the opposite. But, I may be persuaded yet.

    Oh and I'll read up on Mohammad, but I'm still pretty sure he went to Mecca and killed the people that kicked him out.
     
  20. Kjiverx

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    Russia is no longer a threat, at least for the time being. they had no economy in 1990 and they have no economy now. but they could easily become dangerous:

    Do they have nukes? yes

    Do they have missiles? yes

    Do they have a reason to kill everyone? no, and you don't need a reason to start nuclear holocaust.

    Are they dumbass pacifists like most Americans? no

    will they be around once America collapses in ~about 30 years? Hell Yes!


    I know this is from the first page, but i wanted to address it.
    Guess where the internet came from? DEPARTMENT OF DEFENSE

    guess where the jet engine came from? DEPARTMENT OF DEFENSE

    Guess where the first computer was used? BRITISH CODEBREAKERS during WW2

    guess where the rocket was developed? GERMANY during WW2

    war is where technology comes from. pacifists are where being conquered comes from.