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Usually a similar discussion arises with religious debates. (If God knows everything than isn't everything set in stone and you have no choice?)
*EVERYTHING I SAY IS JUST AN EXAMPLE*
Because I am ugly, I will never get a GF.
Because I am handsome, I will never have time for hobbies.
Because a volcano erupted a million years ago, half of Australia is uninhabitable.
My family was slaughtered by owls. I hate owls.
My great great grandparents were *Christians*. I am a *Christian*.
My great grandparents founded the Church of Satan. I am a *Satanist*.
300 years ago, my country was founded as a democracy. I love democracy.
1,000 years ago, my country was founded as a hypocrisy. I love hypocrisy.
A gust of wind that was created by a pressure change made me get cold so I went inside. A bomb was outside and would have killed me.
I was perfectly comfortable outside and died in a massive explosion because life hates me!
Lets assume people having a choice introduces randomness. Do I want chocolate or vanilla? 50/50
Does anything random actually happen? Do we have a choice? We think we have a choice to kill _____ or not to kill _____. But what if all our past experiences have created only one choice in our mind, KILL! 2 + 2 = 4. Beaten + raped = hatred. Loved + educated = successful. As you type up a response, is every single letter/word/sentence you choose actually predetermined based on what you have read/seen in your life. Because you have seen the word *Predetermined* and long words make you seem intelligent and everybody wants to seem intelligent, it seems that you have only one choice. Will you write the word "predetermined" in a predetermined manner?
Then there is the most popular theory for those TL;DR types. "Shit happens"
*EVERYTHING I SAY IS JUST AN EXAMPLE*
Because I am ugly, I will never get a GF.
Because I am handsome, I will never have time for hobbies.
Because a volcano erupted a million years ago, half of Australia is uninhabitable.
My family was slaughtered by owls. I hate owls.
My great great grandparents were *Christians*. I am a *Christian*.
My great grandparents founded the Church of Satan. I am a *Satanist*.
300 years ago, my country was founded as a democracy. I love democracy.
1,000 years ago, my country was founded as a hypocrisy. I love hypocrisy.
A gust of wind that was created by a pressure change made me get cold so I went inside. A bomb was outside and would have killed me.
I was perfectly comfortable outside and died in a massive explosion because life hates me!
Lets assume people having a choice introduces randomness. Do I want chocolate or vanilla? 50/50
Does anything random actually happen? Do we have a choice? We think we have a choice to kill _____ or not to kill _____. But what if all our past experiences have created only one choice in our mind, KILL! 2 + 2 = 4. Beaten + raped = hatred. Loved + educated = successful. As you type up a response, is every single letter/word/sentence you choose actually predetermined based on what you have read/seen in your life. Because you have seen the word *Predetermined* and long words make you seem intelligent and everybody wants to seem intelligent, it seems that you have only one choice. Will you write the word "predetermined" in a predetermined manner?
Then there is the most popular theory for those TL;DR types. "Shit happens"