How will 8MB maps change wc3?

[Redsonic]

The map size just doubled in wc3.

Now, we won't see any GOOD Games using that 8MB limit anytime soon, but existing 4mb legends such as DoTA, how will doubling the map size effect them?

Damn. Can't wait to see what's in store.

Maybe now people can actually make 480x480 maps full of content!

 

[En_Fuego]

probably won't change much. I don't see a reason why IceFrog is going to add a bunch of garbage right away just because he got more space.

 

[Redsonic]

Maybe some music is in order, then D:

 

[Coolty44]

RP maps could benifite with more imported meterial and such things.

 

[TheDivineBoss]

Download and loading times.

Period.

 

[Dr Super Good]

Maps will generally spam more imported content.

May I remind people that imported content does not really effect load times at all, it is actual map complexity which does.

 

[The_wand_mirror]

nooby orpg's will even get bigger and thus noobier >.<

 

[WILL THE ALMIGHTY]

More models/art/skins/music in DotA? Great. I really want to see that mod get some more diversity/awesomeness in models.

More music for any map? Perfect.

Bigger ORPGs? Good.

Longer downloads? Meh. I can wait.

 

[Mechanical Man]

According to PurplePoot, total failure.

XD

nooby orpg's will even get bigger and thus noobier >.<

Those nooby orps are already too nooby to play, so nothing much changes.

Longer downloads? Meh. I can wait.

Meh. You will be able to download from some site most probably.

 

[Dreadnought[dA]]

More Naruto Maps are inbound at EpicWar.

 

[PurplePoot]

Longer downloads? Meh. I can wait.

But others can't, and thus it's rather hard to start such games.

It also isn't exactly pleasant spending 20 minutes for people to download the map, in which half of them have left and thus you rinse and repeat.

 

[Steel_Stallion]

Sure could have used this earlier. Kinda late now, since I'm not into mapping anymore and I forgot everything (Oh what little I knew.)

 

[Rispetto]

Woah, wait, what!?

8mb? That must have been introduced in the patch.

As for 480x480, I'd like to get my hands on the program. Isn't it called unknown, or something? :S

 

[Mechanical Man]

This means that Em! has still chance to make his map multiplayer to some degree.

 

[Restor]

O my gosh

So now I download 4mb map for 10 sec and now I should wait 20 sec? NO WAY!!!!

 

[Dr. House]

Would cause people with bad comps to Lagg like hell and loading time is going to be a toilet break of 10minutes

 

[Restor]

There is no direct causation between amount of MBs and loading time or lags.

 

[Squiggy]

More crappy imports and longer download times

 

[Miss_Foxy]

Well first off it could really encourage more players to Create Maps = More Players Will Join Hive Workshop = More Players In Warcraft III = Blizzard Gets More Money = Less Lag = DotA Players Might Come Here Too = We Win = Blizzard Becomes Popular = No Fail...

PS: And maybe IceFrog would add a command in their game or even a hidden Jukebox to play different Custom DotA created songs in their websites, sung by real players... Or add least add a Ventrilo Style Effect...

 

[JansiGX]

O my gosh

So now I download 4mb map for 10 sec and now I should wait 20 sec? NO WAY!!!!

That would suck indeed.

But what if download speed is also increased.
Maybe they somehow increased dl speed and this is why they increased size to 8 MB...

 

[Restor]

download speed may has something to do with upload speed of the host.

 

[terradont]

I don't see anything negative at all. If people want to create bigger maps, now is their chance.

And i really can't believe that everyon playing wc3 can't download a 8MB map fast enough to keep interest.

 

[Velmarshal]

Moving my risk from 15 races to 20.

 

[En_Fuego]

I don't see anything negative at all. If people want to create bigger maps, now is their chance.

And i really can't believe that everyon playing wc3 can't download a 8MB map fast enough to keep interest.

I lol'd

 

[PurplePoot]

O my gosh

So now I download 4mb map for 10 sec and now I should wait 20 sec? NO WAY!!!!

Try several minutes, during which half of the people waiting have left, including some who downloaded.

Doesn't matter how patient you are; most BNetters are not.

 

[Linaze]

How it'll change wc3? To the worse, I'm afraid.

 

[Mechanical Man]

Why worse? It's not like you are forced to do 8 mb maps. You can still do 400 kb maps without any problem.

-_-

 

[Pyramidhe@d]

i second Linaze. more maps with crap loads of imports gonna overwhelm the map section

 

[-ALPHA-]

I'm willing to be optimistic and hope that at least one person makes a map that tastefully uses imports and doesn't just spam 'em everywhere...

I am, however, ready to be disappointed. Greatly..

 

[HFR]

Failure.

8 mb = Even more noob maps, now with music.

 

[terradont]

I'm still keeping my point that you don't have to play the noob maps.

 

[PurplePoot]

I'm still retaining mine which says good maps don't need it and bad maps will abuse it.

 

[The_Grapist]

Ya more space...
But still my upcoming map wont be 8mb...
It will be 4-6mb...

 

[Kuhneghetz]

I'm still retaining mine which says good maps don't need it and bad maps will abuse it.

QFT.

Huge imports don't make a better game.

 

[Redsonic]

Tested the dl speed of a 5mb map

Fast downloads only took 10 seconds
Slow downloads took up to 45 seconds

then again, i have a godlike upload speed.

 

[Dr Super Good]

As redsonic proved, slow DL rates are often host related problems, do not blame battlenet.

 

[Viikuna]

Im too lazy to download any random 4mb map in bnet anyways, so I guess it doesnt eally affect me.

If Ive heard that maps good, then its another story.

 

[Handycombinder]

Failure.

8 mb = Even more noob maps, now with *music.

*Noob music

 

[Linaze]

It's funny how it's all the noobs that like the new limit.

 

[Belgarath]

2 sides, a possibility for amazing co-op campaigns and large content games, seeing as MOSTLY, 8MB games would be in private, would be pretty damn good. The other side is just that some new massive, good or bad, maps may spring up for which noone will have the patience to wait. And by the way, if you're taking 10 seconds to DL a 4MB map ON B.NET, the moon is coloured purple.

 

[BlargHonk]

omfg, IT'S PURPLE!!!

Well, now we can put more old games in maps, We must get Doom to emulate!

 

[terradont]

It's funny how it's all the noobs that like the new limit.

Owchie x(

Not that i like it, i just don't dislike it either.

 

[Devine]

it means 5000 poly models!
A winner is me.

 

[DocDude]

Noob maps existed since the dawn of orc kind, the new limit is just going to make these maps bigger, not more popular or spam battle.net.

your favorite maps will have some chance of having "their own look, sound and feel" and nobody is going to suffer too much.

its not like you *have* to play the noob maps now that they are 8mb.

 

[thelifelessone]

For some maps, this is really a good thing.
Others, not so much.
I personally like to keep maps small, and fast.
I have a 3.98MB map I'm working on (I'm not the original maker, but I have permission (in a way)). By the time I'm done with it, it's going to be 1.5-2.*MB map.
The only reason it's going to be that large, is I plan on using a "high-quality loading screen", which I might not even do.
I'm also going to convert all the triggers to JASS and opimize the code.

I'm going to do everything to ensure it's fun, small, and fast.

 

[En_Fuego]

I'm also going to convert all the triggers to JASS and opimize the code.

They have nearly 4mb worth of GUI?

 

[Dreadnought[dA]]

Honestly I see only positive with 8 MB. It gives a lot more leeway to maps like *cough* DotA which have almost no large imports whatsoever. There are many cool things you could do with 4 more MB. Music in Zombie games sometimes makes all the differance depending on how creepy it is.

Some epic campaign somewhere can be made multiplayer now that there is more room!

 

[MGCǂSpectre]

More models/art/skins/music in DotA? Great. I really want to see that mod get some more diversity/awesomeness in models.

That's what's gonna happen - Icefrog will add one or two models and with time it will increase in KBs but since these 4 MB cover what's in dota, it will hardly reach the new limit.

 

[Lord_Sauron]

Just to clarify, the max file size has been doubled, but the map's actual dimensions are the same right?

 

[Dr Super Good]

Yes, maps can now be 8 MB in size.
Nowhere did anyone mentione the game cap of playfield deminsions being raised.