General Questions

[Kam]

I think it's helpful to designate a time period for your map. I had similar comments for a long time until I defined it (my map) as post-worldtree in terms of WC3 lore.

Edit: Sorry for the confusion.

 

[Linaze]

It would make no sense to define SoC as post-RoC on the Warcraft-timeline.

 

[Deolrin]

He's not saying we should; He's saying that he did that with his project.

 

[Gausslander]

There must be some sort of progress to mention... right?

 

[Deolrin]

Yes. Well, kinda...
Mr.Goblin has received a virus in his computer that he will fix as soon as he can, but for now, while he waits for his friend to help him out, he focuses completely on his own concept art and such.
This means that we basically can't do anything, because the map is in his hand at the moment; We asked him to finish the terrain, and a few days later, this damn virus appeared.
Well, we imported all the spells and object editor data from the old map to the new map, and we imported most of the art as well. I also have been working a bit more on the Troll Destroyer model, but not much, because it's pointless; When Goblin comes back, he has to finish the terrain, finish like three skins and a lot of icons before he can start working on the Troll Destroyer's skin.

 

[Kam]

http://www.piriform.com/ccleaner

 

[wowcraft]

?Question here? When you guys were showing the death knight and his new tornado ability in the video on youtube, I noticed that the version there had a cape. Is the cape gonna be added in the future demo of the horde, and if so i think the cape should have some rips in it. Your death knights cape was looking fresh lol. here a few sprites from the death knight in war2 so you understand what im saying.

EDIT: I didn't even see the post about Mr. Goblin's virus there, try the "Microsoft security essentials". It is one of the best virus program i have used. AVG, and a lot of big name companies are horrible in protecting the PC, i been through them all so i know the feeling. Try to download MSC and run a scan to see if it takes it out.

 

[MrStormyZ]

about the Antivirus,
http://antivirus.comodo.com/
best one I've used yet, hopefully it will heal your pc too

 

[Lolzaxis]

Looks cool. Are there going to be things like hidden areas?

 

[Deolrin]

In a melee map?
I doubt it.

 

[Victor]

Cool project! Are there going to be attack upgrades for catapults/ballistas like in WC2?

 

[Deolrin]

They'll use the Ranged Weapons upgrades.
Also, good news everyone!
Mr.Goblin is back, and promised to start working on SoC again 'soon'.
Expect an update within a short while!

 

[Killrogg Deadeye]

I've seen 2 custom heroes like Alleria, Mathog, Lothar and maybe Zul'Jin since there is an icon. Do you plan to have other heroes like Gul'Dan, Cho'Gall, Doomhammer, Uther Lightbringer, Turalyon, Khadgar etc...?

 

[Deolrin]

No.
Those heroes were created for the campaign. Since the campaign was canceled, those models are completely useless now. We might reuse some of them in one way or another in the future, however. No new 'characters' or heroes will be made, at least according to current plans.

 

[Delterius]

While I liked the hero mechanics from ladder, it always felt like they also robbed some value from the army games (except for the aura abilities, of course). I suppose this is the reason why you chose to remove heroes entirely.

Perhaps, a player could receive upon starting a random basic unit named for a warcraft 2 hero, such as a Danath footman or an archer Alleria. Provided space isn't problematic, said units could also have the custom models.

 

[Whisper]

any updates ;p?

 

[Linaze]

no ;p
But rest assured, by asking you will make the updates arrive faster. So please: keep asking for them!

 

[Deolrin]

Linaze, why would you give false information to our fans?

We are currently working on that major update we were talking about 1-2 months ago. Not so major for most of you, I guess, but it'll include a lot of stuff. It's bigger than the LAST 'major update', either way. Since it's very close to be done, no hints or 'teasers' will be given, except for what we already revealed before: It will include the new map and terrain(replacing the old map\terrain, as it somehow got screwed up and the cliffs were places incorrectly).
Note: When I say it will include the new map, I mean it will include screenshots and information about the new map. The demo is still a while away.

 

[Linaze]

Correction: The demo is far away. Don't expect it this summer.

 

[Kam]

I demand it now. =p

 

[Linaze]

Thanks for shown interest, Kam.

 

[Victor]

Possibly, you may be intrested in these models made by modelers from @ Community.

 

[Deolrin]

Is that like a 'campaign' from 'the site' to invade the Hive and shove your damn resources everywhere? You're like the 3rd person I see invading project threads and going all "HI YOU SHOULD USE THESE MODELS FROM OUR AWESOME RUSSIAN COMMUNITY".

No, we don't want RedXIII's models. We've considered the possibilities, but they just aren't up to our standards. They look pretty bad, to be honest.
Ket's church is much better, but we're not going to use it either because we don't have a church building. Even if we had, we could make our own model.
Which also leads me to how 99% of the models are made by us. So suggesting models from other websites or even from the Hive's model base is not really helping us. We are fully capable of producing our own models.

Oh, and one more thing. It's against the rules to post the name of 'the site' or any links to it, simply because it supports ripped models and contains many ripped models, which is illegal, and is definitely not supported here. We are a civilized community, thank you very much. :/

 

[Kam]

His temple of the damned isn't that bad. ='(

 

[Linaze]

The main problem with them, if I remember correctly, is the super-ugly red, demonic foundation of the buildings. Besides, buildings are file-size heavy and not really too important if you ask me.

Edit: The fact that you mention that one of his models aren't "that bad", speaks for itself. We're not looking for models that aren't "too bad", but ones that we're all happy with and are proud to import into the map.

 

[Kam]

I see what you're saying. In response to the ugly red base I couldn't agree more, which is why I had that altered.

 

[Linaze]

Yeah, I actually had the buildings on such foundations in an early version of SoC, but I figured blizzard buildings are good enough. We will have a few custom building models as we've said before, but they'll not be the ones made by Red_XIII.

 

[Illidan_Hunter]

Does the project have any chances to be finished this summer? Or atleast a Beta version?

 

[Linaze]

There's no way the project will be finished this summer. There is however a chance that some sort of playable beta will be finished. It'll be easier to say later on, however.

 

[Kam]

Were you able to fix the build animation on the Orc Shipyard?

 

[Deolrin]

I didn't check up on that yet. I fear I'll have to completely remake it, but I'll get to it later.

 

[Whisper]

I'd like to know something about units stats etc.
Are u going to make it like Sc2 (more units, less hp) or wc3?

 

[Linaze]

The gameplay will be little like SC2, more like WC3, but neither exactly. I guess you could say that SoC will play a bit faster than WC3 while still keeping those smaller armies.

 

[Deolrin]

Well, we've just been discussing about increasing our unit supply cap. It seems like there's simply not enough for everything we want, with the naval units included and all.

~~~

It's finally here!
The long awaited update!

 

[Gausslander]

Wow. That was quite the update.

 

[Kam]

Would you consider releasing the "summer pine" skin you are using for the winter-pine model?

 

[Deolrin]

It's just an in-game tree skin.

 

[Kam]

I can't get it to work with another skin. I've tried the ashenvale and lordaeron summer skins.

 

[wowcraft]

@Kam

Summer Tree
ReplaceableTextures\LordaeronTree\LordaeronSummerTree.blp

Fall Tree
ReplaceableTextures\LordaeronTree\LordaeronFallTree.blp

 

[Kam]

You mean in the object editor field "Art-Replaceable Texture File?"

EDIT: Never mind, that didn't work.

 

[Linaze]

You'll have to edit the texture used by the model in notepad or a model editor like Magos. You can't do it in the world editor.
Anyway, let us get back on topic. Further questions related to that tree model can be taken via PMs.

 

[Kam]

Right'o.

I had someone make the Goblin Shipyard birth animation work correctly, if you're interested.

 

[Deolrin]

Oh, really? Did he make his own, or change mine?
Either way, I am very much interested, and especially if he changed mine - I assume he converted the helpers to bones, but that didn't always work for me when this bug happened.

 

[Death_bringer_2]

Quick question for you guys; how'd you get the snowpine model to work in game? It shows in my editor, but it's blank in-game. Blah. Great progress, btw.

 

[MrStormyZ]

Quick question for you guys; how'd you get the snowpine model to work in game? It shows in my editor, but it's blank in-game. Blah. Great progress, btw.

This Tutorial might help mate
I had the same problem for a while

 

[Death_bringer_2]

This Tutorial might help mate
I had the same problem for a while

Awesome, thanks a lot.

 

[Gausslander]

I wish you'd post more updates.

 

[Deolrin]

Well, currently development is basically on-hold.
You can blame Linaze for that; Ever since School started, he does absolutely nothing. Currently, SoC is on the hard-drive of a laptop which's screen broke. Linaze is apparently too busy(or lazy) to get SoC from that old hard-drive.

On the brighter side, literally ALL models are completely done, except for the Goblin Ace, which only needs animations. I will post some updates and screenshots soon.

 

[TaShadan]

go Linaze rescue it!
nice to hear that all models are done

 

[Linaze]

Yeap, blame me.