Game Night's Map Challenge

Avatars Lord · Jun 20, 2018

The Next Custom Game Night's at 6:00 pm UTC on Saturday, August 11th, 2018!
So get your maps ready for The Night!

Welcome to the Game Night's Map Contest! Have you heard of The Custom Game Night which is hosted by Selaya?
Maybe you have heard it and you have attended the Game Night even.
This contest is directly linked to it and wants you to create a map to play in The Custom Game Night.

Your map needs to have atleast 14 playable slots	There are more than 12 players who joins The Game Night therefore needing 14+ players game.
Maximum 45 minutes.	In the Game Night we prefer playing more maps therefore needing the map to be short one.
Needs to be fun	Why make a map where everyone will get bored?
Needs to be intuitive to play.	It should not take ages to learn it.
It should contain the given theme/intented case	Having a theme or a requirement spices up the Contest which we all don't deserve but we need.
Finished.	The game should be in the spreadsheet before atleast 1 hour to The Game Night.

The map doesn't need to be high quality, just needs to be enjoyable!

IV. Map Contest 29/07-11/08/2018

III. Map Contest 14/07-28/07/2018

II. Map Contest 30/06-14/07/2018

I. Map Contest 16-30/06/2018

Evolve: Choose a melee map and turn it to 14+ players non-melee map but do not change the terrain drastically!

It's Not The Size That Matters: Create a 32x288 map sized map!

Cleaning The Dust: Choose a map which is over 14 years old then make it at least 14 players and bug-free!
Here is Cokemonkey11's Archive. Choose a map from there.

No theme for this week!

IV. Map Contest contest shall begin on 29.07.2018 and end at 5.00 PM UTC on 11.08.2018.

v1.00 Post has been created.
v1.01 Changed "challenge" to "contest".
v1.02 Fixed a typo that nobody saw.
v1.03 Added new labers.
v1.04 Reduced the required players.

Maxwell · Jun 20, 2018

Challenges are only if you challenge another user to do something. What you have described here are Contest.

P.S: why all the text labels are inclined? Bug my eyes so hard.

Avatars Lord · Jun 20, 2018

Maxwell said:
Challenges are only if you challenge another user to do something. What you have described here is Contest.

P.S: why all the text labels are inclined? Bug my eyes so hard.

Yeah, you're right. I changed the text but couldn't change the title...

Because the contest elevates the spirits and apparently the labels.

nedio95 · Jun 20, 2018

TBH that would be fairly interesting, but for 1-2 weeks you are getting mostly (if not exclusively) mini-games.

May be interested to do something.

regards
-Ned

Selaya · Jun 21, 2018

The last incarnation of the Game Night (WaterKnight's Funmap Evening) featured 24h flash challenges.
So yes, the point is to create something of small to medium size that's good for 15-40 minutes of fun.

KILLCIDE · Jun 21, 2018

I moved this to the Multiplayer, Clans, & Arrangements forum. It seemed more fitting there.

Paillan · Jun 21, 2018

Oh you stole it! nice one! Oil approves! Great job formalizing this "contest"

Looking forward for someone else to set a theme.

Avatars Lord · Jun 21, 2018

Paillan said:
Looking forward to someone else to set a theme.

I hope that someone else doesn't suggest Overlords. :pgrin:

apsyll · Jun 22, 2018

Will this contest be repeated more frequently so will there be later maybe themes plus theme pool coming up aswell and a more set frame, 2week / 48h challange?
Liked the old inwarcraft custom map challanges by Waternight who got later on moved here to hive, so hope this will established again.

Avatars Lord · Jun 22, 2018

apsyll said:
Will this contest be repeated more frequently so will there be later maybe themes plus theme pool coming up as well and a more set frame, 2week / 48h challenge?
Liked the old in warcraft custom map challenges by Waternight who got, later on, moved here to hive, so hope this will established again.

The contest will be repeated according to the Game Night. The theme will be discussed after this week's contest.
Normally this contest is planned for 14 days but because of posting this fresh this weeks contest is shorter than the usual.
Maybe we can make an exception and make a 48-hour challenge but that will happen rarely.

Paillan · Jun 24, 2018

contest theme or riot.

Stachu · Jun 25, 2018

I wouldn't have a chance to play unfortunately but I highly recommend you to give a go at my Witcher Multiplayer Online Battle Arena map for your game night:

The Witcher MOBA v.1.0.3

The map is fully playable and tested by our little Polish W3 modding community set up for up to 20 players and takes roughly around 45 minutes to play max (depending on players cooperation), lots of events, items, custom models and textures! Feel free to give it a go

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I would very much appreciate if you could even give me some feedback after the game night.

Paillan · Jun 25, 2018

Stachu said:
I wouldn't have a chance to play unfortunately but I highly recommend you to give a go at my Witcher Multiplayer Online Battle Arena map for your game night:

The Witcher MOBA v.1.0.3

The map is fully playable and tested by our little Polish W3 modding community set up for up to 20 players and takes roughly around 45 minutes to play max (depending on players cooperation), lots of events, items, custom models and textures! Feel free to give it a go .
I would very much appreciate if you could even give me some feedback after the game night.

this is not the right place to suggest maps for the event.

Lord_Earthfire · Jun 26, 2018

This is quite an interesting idea. Unfortunate, im occupied and cannot join in thus time, but i keep.an eye on it. Wish you guys good luck!

Cokemonkey11 · Jun 28, 2018

I don't think I can make the game night but I look forward to more of this in the future.

It seems the game night on the 30th has no theme yet, but I have a good suggestion. Interested?

Avatars Lord · Jun 28, 2018

Cokemonkey11 said:
I have a good suggestion. Interested?

Yes, I would like to hear your theme suggestion ^^

Cokemonkey11 · Jun 28, 2018

Avatars Lord said:
Yes, I would like to hear your theme suggestion ^^

So, I have an archive containing over 400 wc3 maps, all made over 15 years ago

The theme is: pick a map from these at random, fix any regressions so it works in 1.29, make it playable for 20+ players, and use your remaining time to add some secret sauce to make the game fun for the fun night

that's it!

Avatars Lord · Jun 28, 2018

Cokemonkey11 said:
The theme

1. What did you use when you created them? Wurst, GUI, Jass, vJass? Because if it's non-Gui most of the people will not understand because they use GUI as you can see from this poll.
2. Even if it's GUI fixing is not that enjoyable.
3. When they have fixed it and made it 20+ will the map become theirs, yours or both?

Cokemonkey11 · Jun 28, 2018

> What did you use when you created them? Wurst, GUI, Jass, vJass? Because if it's non-Gui most of the people will not understand because they use GUI as you can see from this poll.

They're not made by me. They're over 15 years old - they're likely to have no triggers or scripts at all.

> Even if it's GUI fixing is not that enjoyable.

There should be very few regressions. The fun part is adding some spice to the map.

> When they have fixed it and made it 20+ will the map become theirs, yours or both?

Who cares? wc3 maps aren't anyone's intellectual property. It's a *very short* (only ~30 hours remaining) contest, no?

Avatars Lord · Jun 29, 2018

Cokemonkey11 said:
It's a *very short* (only ~30 hours remaining) contest, no?

Well, we can't change the theme right now, people have already started making maps( you have, too ) ._.
But it can be a theme I guess.

Cokemonkey11 · Jun 29, 2018

Next time is good for me

Cokemonkey11 · Jun 29, 2018

[sorry for bump]

I might not be updating my map entry anymore unless there's a major bug found in the next few hours.

gl hf thw hero war speed map | HIVE

Selaya · Jun 29, 2018

I think this incarnation of the Game Night's Mapmaking challenge is supposed to have a more relaxed timeframe (rip 24h challenges); for the time being anyways.

Cokemonkey11 · Jun 29, 2018

long live 24h challenges

Cokemonkey11 · Jun 30, 2018

[sorry for spam again]

I've done further work on my map entry -

(24)thw-hero-fight-heart-0.0.5

It's on ENT - ENT Gaming - Information

and epicwar - (24)thw-hero-fight-heart-0.0.5 - Warcraft 3 Maps - Epic War.com

and still pastebin - thw hero war speed map | HIVE

Avatars Lord · Jun 30, 2018

Only one entry for the last contest._. Not surprised, though.

The II. Map contest has started. Thanks for @Cokemonkey11 for the theme suggestion!

Paillan · Jul 1, 2018

I have a suggestion for next theme.
"A trip down memory lane". Go back to the earliest patch possible and make a map in that patch, then go back to 1.29. You are not allowed to add any natives beyond the oldest patch.
Sounds like a nice nightmare.

Cokemonkey11 · Jul 1, 2018

Sorry I couldnt make it. Unfortunately I won't make any satruday nights at all in the foreseeable future.

Did you guys end up playing any competition entry maps? I'm curious to see a vod/replay of my map if so

Avatars Lord · Jul 1, 2018

Normally @Paillan records the night but he didn't yesterday, unfortunately.
Yes, we played it for two rounds. Because of the hiding Blademaster the round 2 got long and people who were dead got bored._.

FlameofChange · Jul 2, 2018

Welp.
War of the Worlds can last 50mn and is quite tough in micro & macro.
Age of Humanity desync without using any blacklisted functions when a second player pass an age. + that's not completed at all and it can last 1h30.

So that's a double no for me :]

Cokemonkey11 · Jul 4, 2018

Avatars Lord said:
Normally @Paillan records the night but he didn't yesterday, unfortunately.
Yes, we played it for two rounds. Because of the hiding Blademaster the round 2 got long and people who were dead got bored._.

Shame, hopefully next time.

Blademaster is such a dick. I guess you guys noticed that the arena gets smaller? Maybe 2 minutes is too long and it should get smaller sooner.

I will add a note to deal with blademaster if I ever work on the map again.

Shame to hear about only 11 players showing up, too. Maybe try a different day? I easily got 12 players in a public lobby last week to test that map.

Avatars Lord · Jul 4, 2018

Cokemonkey11 said:
Blademaster is such a dick. I guess you guys noticed that the arena gets smaller? Maybe 2 minutes is too long and it should get smaller sooner.

Yeah, we noticed but the shrinking was just too slow._.

Cokemonkey11 · Jul 7, 2018

I've started some design work. I've randomly rolled "PicNic3.w3m" as my starting template.

No guarantees I'll make a submission, but we'll see what I can do

pick-a-chew · Jul 9, 2018

This looks fun. I have lots of time for the next few days so could put something together very quickly? Remaking maps is one of my favorite activities so I'd hate to skip such an opportunity!

Does it have to be from Cokemonkey's archive? There's loads of maps on here and EpicWar which are 14+ years old and ones which I'd quite fancy remaking (most of the ones in the archive i don't actually recognize

). There is the dilemma of some of these being remade/modded already but IMO it is always fun to try and remake old concepts again and see if you produce something good (like i did with orc gladiators).

Avatars Lord · Jul 9, 2018

Cokemonkey11 said:
I've randomly rolled "PicNic3.w3m" as my starting template.

I don't know how you are going to make that meme cinematic map playable, good luck though ._.

pick-a-chew said:
This looks fun. I have lots of time for the next few days so could put something together very quickly? Remaking maps is one of my favorite activities so I'd hate to skip such an opportunity!

Does it have to be from Cokemonkey's archive? There's loads of maps on here and EpicWar which are 14+ years old and ones which I'd quite fancy remaking (most of the ones in the archive i don't actually recognize ). There is the dilemma of some of these being remade/modded already but IMO it is always fun to try and remake old concepts again and see if you produce something good (like i did with orc gladiators).

No, it doesn't need it to be from The Archive but as you said it should be at least 12 years old ^^

pick-a-chew · Jul 9, 2018

That's good to know. I'm actually finding it quite hard to validate a map's age so i am just going to pick something from the Archive and go from there!

I'll let you know how things go.

Cokemonkey11 · Jul 10, 2018

Don't worry, none of us know anything in this archive

it's basically random junk. That's part of the fun imo

pick-a-chew · Jul 10, 2018

I took the Castle Defense map from the Archive because it seemed vaguely familiar to me, whilst also being very simple, fun and easy to modify

Cokemonkey11 · Jul 12, 2018

Oof, I haven't even started yet (apart from design) and the game night is in two days.

I'll see what I can do

Cokemonkey11 · Jul 13, 2018

Good luck, don't suck! pick_nick_hero_defense | HIVE

I don't have any more time to work on this I think.

Avatars Lord · Jul 13, 2018

Mine is done too! The Shepherds

pick-a-chew · Jul 13, 2018

Here's mine.

There is more i wanted to do but i do not think i will find much more time to work on it. If i do i will post a newer version!

Avatars Lord · Jul 14, 2018

Due to being 5 players, we couldn't enjoy the fullest with the maps.
Nice work guys!

The III. Map contest has started.

Cokemonkey11 · Jul 14, 2018

Have you played map entries? any replays?

can I submit suggestions for next contest theme?

Avatars Lord · Jul 15, 2018

We played all of them.
Yes, you may.

pick-a-chew · Jul 15, 2018

New theme already? I feel like 96x96 is a pretty ordinary size for making a quick mini-game!

Would other dimensions equal to the area of 96x96 be acceptable? i.e. the most extreme case is 32x288 (which is = 96x96 in terms of area). I think there could be some cool concepts that would benefit from a long but narrow map, and such map shapes are quite uncommon.

Avatars Lord · Jul 15, 2018

pick-a-chew said:
New theme already? I feel like 96x96 is a pretty ordinary size for making a quick mini-game!

Would other dimensions equal to the area of 96x96 be acceptable? i.e. the most extreme case is 32x288 (which is = 96x96 in terms of area). I think there could be some cool concepts that would benefit from a long but narrow map, and such map shapes are quite uncommon.

Oh yes, it is acceptable.

I thought of 64x64 but it felt too small to create anything._.

Cokemonkey11 · Jul 15, 2018

I think 32x288 should be the theme +++

Avatars Lord · Jul 16, 2018

Cokemonkey11 said:
I think 32x288 should be the theme +++

Agreed, squares are not that fun anymore._.

Theme has been changed.

Cokemonkey11 · Jul 27, 2018

My submission! long_builders_and_fighters | HIVE

Unfortunately only spent a few hours on this but should be at least balanced unlike the last map...