Ent Seed: Life of the Forest

[Darkholme]

GOD DAMN IT!

indeed, the old site webadmin was messing with people's accounts and removed my ability to see attachments (for amusement)

he is now no longer the site admin, as panther (the site owner) has been wanting to get rid of him for a long time but did not have a replacement.

i wanted him to stop messing with my stuff, so i took the job.

 

[varsaigen]

Ooohh. lol. Nice. Good luck with the position? One question, is it the Gamerisle site you are talking about?

 

[Darkholme]

Yeah. the guy who pays for the server doesnt have the scripting abilities, and the guy who used to be the webmaster was a jackass.

did you get anything done on the techtree?

and in your next post, could you make the text and background have more contrast, the green and purple is hard to read.

 

[JanSze]

Thanks for the offer I will make a techtree for Oaks. I have enough time this evening and i'm bored of making my map... Its too perfect^^

 

[Volvox]

Couldn't upload the picture on gamerisle so i did it here, i hope you don't mind.

 

[Eccho]

Volvox that looks very sweet =)
I cant judge the containing though, but for me it seems brilliant whatsoever ^_^

 

[varsaigen]

Wow, that's cool. I like your background choice too. Plus it is very organized! each unit and it's upgrades! Awesome!

 

[Darkholme]

JanSze, I can't figure out the techtree you made. although it LOOKS like units can be trained from buildings, which isn't how entseed works. I thought that was clear, but it was more clear on this board than the other one. It's also kindof empty. The casters need 3 separate spells, not an upgrading spell, cause upgrading spells are a hero thing.

Volvox, I'm not so sure about the centaur and the wood elf. they just don't really seem to fit this army. Centaur seem kindof Oakish, and A wood elf scout/ranger seems pretty mapleish. and a new name for the sun ent is needed, as theres nothing sunny about the army. theyre kindof mooney, if anything.

and what is with you people and your damn jpegs! I've been trying to nicely say, over and over. put them in txt files. jpegs are too much of a bitch to edit, and they shouldnt be used until everything is final. then instead of my nagging at you guys to fix things, I could fix it myself an post a fixed copy (when you guys are close).

and the reason you couldnt upload was cause your image was too big. I tried.

 

[varsaigen]

that long? Yeah, I have that communication problem before too. Then they start to complain about how mean ya are and (in my case) emo quit. But after a week of nothing happening, I can see why your annoyed. :/ 100% logical.

 

[Darkholme]

longer actually. back to whenever ezikielth made his first techtree.

 

[JanSze]

umpfh. Sorry. It was not clear for me I will fix it

but dont be too strict to people who want only to help you darcholme. I can understand you 100%, too. But we only want to help you

 

[Ezikielth]

Meh. Need anything done competently dark? If you do Im here to help because... altho you have legal custody im still its birth parent

 

[Volvox]

Well, i admit i can be quite stupid sometimes XD so being strict may be the only way to make me see what i am doing wrong... Yeah, txt files would probably save us time and nerves but you see, the last techtree was made by a program called FreeMind, i usually use it to study, make mind maps and so on, it's very useful. So i just took a screenshot and did the background in photoshop cs3, it has great brushes and effects. I can still easily change things back in FreeMind but what good is it to you XD Yeah, i'll do a txt version, i'll remove the elf and the centaur. Oh, and a little copmlain form me. You should have told me about the wood elf sooner.
Edit: full techtree added
Willow techtree

- Tree of life
-- Amber ent
--- Ancient willow
---- upgrades ent units
--- Root
---- gathers water
--- Faerie ent
---- light melee unit with phase shift
--- Midgard willow ent
---- heavy ranged unit
---- must root to fire, hurls boulders with splash damage
---- siege unit
--- Catkin willow ent
---- medium melee unit
---- entagling attack(prevents movement)
--- Weeping willow ent
---- heavy melee unit
---- raging roots(prevents movement of up to 3 nearby enemies)
--- Willow sentry
---- heavy melee caster
---- cleaving attack
---- spells:
----- initiate: surge of life(instant heal)
----- advanced: flurish(increases root's gathering efficiency)
----- master: darkbane(aura that damages nearby swamp ents)
-- Spirit of creation
--- Temple of the seasons
---- contains upgrades for spirit units
---- has a regeneration aura
--- Valkyre
--- light melee caster
---- spells:
----- initiate: cycle acceleration(heal over time)
----- advanced: reverse cycle(damage over time)
----- master: spirit of summer(morphs into a sunbird; ranged flyer)
--- Fylgja
---- eprmanently invisible spirit with no attack
---- spells:
----- initiate: reveal(reveals nearby invisible units on cast)
----- advanced: forest's weep(increases nearby allies' damage on cast)
----- master: gift of life(dies to ressurect a nearby allied unit)
--- Fairy
---- light melee caster
---- spells:
----- initiate: faerie flame(reduces enemy armor)
----- advanced: blossom(area heal)
----- master: faerie ashes(passive, restores nearby allies' health on death)
--- Black bear
---- heavy melee unit with hardened skin
--- Waheela(idea from the cryptids list)
---- fast ethereal wolf with spell attack(so that he attacks while being ethereal)
--- Wind lynx
---- very fast cat-like animal
---- has weak critical strike maybe?

 

[varsaigen]

Wow. I like that one. especially the ethereal wolf. :3 (I have a thing about wolves.)
And what's cool is that you actually gave descriptions.

 

[Volvox]

Well what's the use of a techtree witout descriptions, would you know what a wolf is just by hearing it's name? I am glad that you like this one, i passed half of wikipedia sources to get the ideas, especially for names. I also checked on all the sorts of willows. It was fun actually, and i learned something new Of course, if there is anything that needs repairing, i'll attend to it right away.

 

[Ezikielth]

Volvox, it looks good... however (and Im pretty sure that Dark will back me on this)
Spirit of creation--Will be wisp for every race
Amber ent--The name woulnt be ent... it would be *blank* sapling
-----------As far as sapling names go here are the ones I came up with when I was originally doing the tech trees
-Sinister Sapling (swamp)
-Scarred Sapling (willow)
-Swift Sapling (maple)
-Sturdy Sapling (oak)
------------Also, (the following where my original intentions) every race would have the basic rune of defense as a tower and depending on how the tech tree went perhaps another tower. Also every race would have a type of thorn to act as an attacking wall for base def etc. I was also thinking that thorns would be invis unless attacking and have a range slightly longer than melee attacks.

There is my two cents
Good luck with the Tech Trees

 

[Darkholme]

Meh. Need anything done competently dark? If you do Im here to help because... altho you have legal custody im still its birth parent

While you do make competent techtrees, you tend to take things in your own direction, and that direction doesnt always go with the one I had in mind.

Volvox, I like the new Techtree. looks great.I dont think there's a decent cat model though. So the cat may have to go.(it could be replaced with a Satyr or something maybe, we'l see.) Looks great for now though.

I actually like the new unit names. I think your naming scheme works well, although Amber is something I would associate with maple, as its an orangey yellow.

And yeah, every army will need defensive structures, but I dont see a need for them all to be different (other than with minor stat tweaks or something), so we can worry about them after.

I know you guys are trying to help, but what good would I be if I didn't edit the techtrees and tell you what needs changing so we can use them?

The alternative would be to just flat out reject them, and that would get us nowhere.

 

[Volvox]

Darkholme, i don't think anybody is mad because of your criticism, you have every right to demand changes. About the cat, i think i saw a good cat model in Requiem of the gods(very good map imo). I am glad that you like the new techtree.

 

[varsaigen]

Volvox, I like the new Techtree. looks great.I dont think there's a decent cat model though. So the cat may have to go.(it could be replaced with a Satyr or something maybe, we'l see.) Looks great for now though.

Why couldn't we take a cat model and I could edit the skin? I think I could make a bobcat or cougar with relative ease. Should I give it a shot?

 

[Darkholme]

if you think you can turn the only cat in the game (the nightelf tiger mount) into a bobcat (with no rider, and bobcat-like proportions, appropriate animations etc) then be my guest.

If there's another Cat model to start from, then let's see it. if it has it's own anims then we just need to tweak the anims.

Come to think of it, if youre not able to do it, I could probably make it with some mesh deleting and re-rigging it to the wolf skeleton/anims.

 

[varsaigen]

one sec. I know where they are. :3
3 cat models. --> http://www.hiveworkshop.com/forums/models.php?status=g&s=cat&d=list&r=20

 

[Darkholme]

I like the panther out of those.

a bobcat would be cooler, but would need reskinning and some tweaks. of course, I'm biased because I think bobcats are the coolest wild animal that's cat related.

 

[varsaigen]

i prefer cougars. lol but I can make a bobcat skin. We'd have to tweak the model to match it, but it can be done.

 

[Volvox]

I think you should take the panther model but that's just cause i prefer them over all other big cats.

 

[JanSze]

oook guys Its time for the reworked Oak techtree >.<
I splitted it to the Wisp and Sapling so it was easier to make in a txt! file
Theres a scrnshot, too.

*upload*

 

[Darkholme]

looks cool so far but i havent looked closely. im crazy busy for the next couple days. if i get a chance to look at it closely i dont know when it will be yet.

 

[JanSze]

no problem! If it helps it would be cool.
Will be in holidays for 2 weeks from tomorrow.

 

[Volvox]

Sooo... I'm gonna start bleeding out of boredom... Any techtrees/spells/units still need to be designed? And, will you set this last techtree as approved or should i make a jpeg version of it or is there still something that needs to be changed?

 

[Darkholme]

Volvox. There are a few things to change, check our board. I put it in the proposed techtrees, first post.

and I think we should use the panther in willow as people were suggesting, for the color mainly, but also, a bobcat would go well in maple.

As for what needs doing, The Swamp Techtree needs revision.

Ezikielth has first dibs on the swamp tree if he wants them, but I dont know how he would feel about designing Swamp via my concepts instead of his.

 

[varsaigen]

or, for willow, we could use the cougar. Swamp could use the panther, and oak could use the bobcat. and maple could have......? (I haven't thought of anything for maple)

 

[Darkholme]

I just said bobcat for maple. I was thinking oak will get the bears. look at the proposed techtrees topic!

 

[varsaigen]

ok. I thought about bears but seeing as the others had cats, I figured it would be fair to keep it relatively equal?

 

[Darkholme]

swamp won't have a cat either. we dont need a leopard. theyre just different colored panthers anyways. There's like no difference.

 

[Darkholme]

Maple: Bobcat
Oak: Bear
Willow: Panther
Swamp:Undecided.

as for "rules"

theyre gonna be a couple days. I wont be working on this until my girl goes back to russia on monday. so youll have to wait till after the weekend. if youre canadian thats right in time for canada day.

 

[Eccho]

okay... Ill try to do as much as possible on the resourcesystem-optimizing this weekend...

There is another competition though :>

 

[varsaigen]

what about wolves? Swamp ould have wolves. Since all of the races seem to have different species. (Except bobcats are still felines)

Offtopic (kinda): Speaking of cats, my cat dissapeared. I've been depressed for a while (3 days now) so, ya, I'm not the happiest person in the world.

 

[Eccho]

He just ran away?:/ I suffer with you dude, but you know, cats has 9 lives and a 6th sense which is helping them find the way home =). Im sure he will pop up soon

 

[varsaigen]

funny thing is, he has gone through a lot. has dissapeared 2 other times, fallen from trees, seen 3 dogs move into our house (1 died of salmonela) and seen his sister die. He has had a hard life. Not to mention sacrid's cat has gotten him to live only on the second floor of our life thus causing a lot of mental stress for him. But in the end (so far, if he's still alive.) he became kitten-like and cheerful around me.

 

[Volvox]

(offtopic) Ah well... My cat got hit by a car this winter. His name was Florian nad he was an incarnation of the devil XD but i liked him a lot. He died, so what, it's a part of life. You shouldn't bond with anything or anyone that strong, you never know when they're gonna leave.

 

[varsaigen]

Yeah, I know, but I always imagined him sticking around for a long time. His attitude and set mind (a lot like mine) made me think he knew what to do. But, my bond to my cat can never be helped. He was my first "truly mine" cat. His name was Tyko. And that named popped into my head, much like my username.

Sorry for the string of off-topics Darkholme. :/

 

[JanSze]

hi guys. I have internet here in our stop in germany (Bremen). How is my Techtree? Do you think it's good (enough)?
I feel sorry for you guys :/

 

[Eccho]

It looks great (as I say to everything...) but I can't really decide since it's Darkholme who should look at it.

He told me he have been busy this weekend, and will be til monday. So I guess we have to wait and see ._.

 

[Darkholme]

Jan, I commented on it under proposed techtrees. look at the EntSeed board. its in the first post.

Var, what did you do in regard to the changes I suggested?

 

[JanSze]

I dont get acces to the website atm. Could you write/copy it here again?

 

[varsaigen]

Sorry Darkholme, I haven't quite gotten to it yet. :/ I had been working on making a furbolg necromancer for keiji. I'll see what I can do to make the bobcat skin. Although the model will need minor edits on the tail and face.

 

[Darkholme]

Dont worry about hte bobcat skin. I just meant the techtree. I can easily do the bobcat myself.

http://www.forums.gamerisle.org/index.php?board=64.0 is the address for our board.

 

[varsaigen]

ok. Thanks. :/ Sorry to be unable to help with more than just skins and heroes.

 

[JanSze]

I uploaded a NEW one. I dunno if you've already seen it.

oook guys Its time for the reworked Oak techtree >.<
I splitted it to the Wisp and Sapling so it was easier to make in a txt! file

 

[Darkholme]

I think thats the one I commented on. I didnt see the old one.

 

[varsaigen]

Off-Topic: My Cat has Returned!!! After 4 days in the wilderness with oyotes, cougars, bears, and many other predators, he has returned! Plus he seems well fed!