Ent Seed: Life of the Forest

[Eccho]

Yea volvox, that was really well done

 

[NearbyHermit]

Well,it seems that ES: LotF is going well

Need anymore icons?

 

[Volvox]

yeah, weeping willows Sorrow was the first association, so it turned out into an emo race

 

[DrazharLn]

The two techtrees published so far both look great. I am, as ever, eager to see the final result. Keep up the good work!

 

[Darkholme]

Volvox. The techtree looks creative, but it doesn't match the concept. it's not really mysterious and wondrous. emo-ey isnt really the idea for that race. you followed the pattern awesomely and came up with something original, but it doesnt fit the main ideas of the race. they should be kindof magical and full of awe and wonder. they should be lively and such as well. If you look at the first post, all the races have themes and concepts. And a small thing, minerals are collected via wisps so both builders collect resources, as opposed to having two types of roots on the ent side. I'd be all for having the wisps build something, maybe like a root that glows or something, but for now lets just leave that as regular wisps who harvest lumber.

It's kindof like with the techtree ezikielth made. it's a nifty techtree, but we both see swamp differently. he sees swamp like stealthy spell ninjas. I see them like the plant version of the undead. a weed if you will. they should have withering spells, and toxins, and maybe the ability to steal resources somehow (or somethign like that).

and spirits are not just ghosts. they're forest spirits, meaning things like dryads, and satyrs, and even furbolgs and wildkin. maybe wolves. think magical forest dwelling things, instead of graveyard.

I may sound like I'm being critical, which I kindof am, but there is also a compliment in here. This is the fourth time ive written this particular message thanks to hive not working properly the past couple hours so im not sure if everything im trying to say will come across properly. It's really a great job making a techtree, but it isnt the type of techtree I was looking for. It kindof needs redoing.

Maybe I'll reiterate the themes here for clarification:
Maple:Fast but fragile. They move the fastest, but have the least hit points. They're kindof like archers. deal damage quickly without getting too close, then retreat before youre taken down. 2nd least magically based
Oak: Big and tough. They move the slowest, but have the most hit points and armor. theyre kindof like golems, or the rock giants. amass a large force, and attack directly. The least magical.
Swamp: Dark and Gloomy. The swamp ents are toxic, and deal with things like poison and withering, second toughest, but the hit points and armor are really closer to the middle than to 3/4 of Oak. for speed, theyre somwhere in the middle.
Willow: Mysterious and Mystical. They have alot of things dealing with life creation, have the most magically based army, and are all mysterious. They are the second weakest, but like the swamp ents theyre closer to the middle. they are in the somewhere in the middle for speed. theyre the most magical. theyre kindof the anti-swamp, like maple is kindof the anti oak.

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[Ezikielth]

Want me to just do the techtrees?

 

[Eccho]

I thought Volvox work was a good job, but yea maybe didn't fit what to be requested (I didn't say anythng before)
But at least he should be given a chance to improve his effort?

 

[Ezikielth]

Yeah but If I do it they will all look the same... Willow done

 

[varsaigen]

Ezikielth, interesting. For one thing, you put a lot of effort into your picture. other than that, it's great!

 

[Darkholme]

MOTHERFRACKER: Hive is ONCE AGAIN giving me connecting errors when i try to post messages. it can't be me because HIVE is the only site that does it.

ok.

Volvox, do a remake. try to fit the theme, you were doing a good job.
Ezikielth, although you were trying to help, please try not to step on peoples feet, that was rude. Volvox was working on willow, and though it didnt turn out right, that doesnt mean i want someone else to do it. its entirely possible that he just didnt get the directions. like how yours isnt quite right either. Ghosts: Bad. and you still have those goofy mineral roots in the techtree that we're not using. You put those in your original techtree and he got the bad idea there. and what the hell is an eagle ent.

Spirits: NOT GHOSTS animal spirit guides, celtic forest spirits (fae/fey) etc. I'm looking for things based on the available models to reskin as well here. We want things like dryads, hippogryphs, wolves, fairie dragons, bearsm birds, etc. not just see through ghosty things. looking at in game models for inspiration is a good idea because we want to use as little custom resources as possible (though I dont think we'll likely use any of the premade creatures).

I think it would be easier to organize all of this if we had our own board instead of just a thread.

 

[varsaigen]

Examples of spirits in Warcraft: Spirit Wolf, Spirit Bear, Spirit Eagle

 

[Sabertooth]

This project is pretty active and it looks to be coming along nicely from what I've read in this thread.
But if you apply for Hosted Project status (Thats the only way you get your own boards I believe) I hope you guys finish this thing instead of leaving it hanging.

 

[varsaigen]

I don't think that this project will go down the drain with how far it has come.

 

[Darkholme]

we could go the hosted project route here, but weve already been offered one elsewhere, and the other one has other server space we can use. we could theoretically put up an actual site there.

i was thinking we could do the work there, and post info for actual progress here. in this thread. presently this thread is so diluted its hard to find stuff.

 

[varsaigen]

What about hero spell ideas? My brain must be fried. I can't think of much for willow without going into magical stuff like spells or spirits. Is it ok to go into magic for the abilities?

 

[Darkholme]

hero ability ideas are welcome, but I dont plan on digging through a 20 page thread to find them. collect the ones here, and when we get the board ill make sure theres a sections just for heroes and their abilities.

 

[Volvox]

Okay, i got the spirit part wrong and i was actually studying Ezekielth's tech tree while doing mine because of the resource buildings. The weeping forest idea kinda pulled me off the right direction, i'll do my best to make them lively and anti-undead dough that type of race is not my favorite, but i'm sure going to try.

 

[varsaigen]

Darkholme, I will. Thanks for the information.

 

[Darkholme]

Think more mysterious with nature powers. I dont want you to make a holy arm because of a misunderstanding.

as for the entseed board, the sections are being made right now, then i have to put the info in them, which I intend to do later tonight or tomorrow. then I'll link you guys.

 

[Eccho]

Hurray. And by the way do you know the 15char limit is changed? its only 4 now

 

[Volvox]

Nah, i wasn't planning on that Darkholme Creation, creation, creation, yeah, i can do that...

 

[varsaigen]

Thanks Darkholme. That will make it easier for my mind to think of stuff.

And Eccho, I never knew that! lol Thanks!

 

[JanSze]

maybe this magical/mystical race could build shrines and pray to gods or sth like that. And if they pray to different gods their units get different speels and abilities. For example if they pray to an god which is really nice and helpfull they get heal abilitites. Or maybe you can even build a shrine for each god where you can build units which pray to this god. (Nice god = healer, Mysterious god = like Mesmer abilities in Guild Wars hard to explain ;])

I just give my ideas to you so dont feel stepped on your foot

 

[Eccho]

Woah, yea, thats something new and well, I think the headmaster of this project; Darkholme should judge it. Hm, I dont know, but it doesn't sound very natural that ents and trees are praying to gods? (Meh, how natural is warcraft...) Anyway I'll let Darkholme to decide that

 

[Darkholme]

Nifty idea, but I don't think it works with ents. maybe if it was a humanoid mystical race.

 

[varsaigen]

Agreed. With ents, it could look corny, but with races like elves and draenei, it would be awesome.

 

[JanSze]

ok just an idea I like that idea really much but youre right! With Ents it looks a bit weird. Ents arent the "God Prayers" i think xD

 

[varsaigen]

Maybe they can pray to Mother Nature?

 

[JanSze]

hmmmhm maybe they could. Or to the god of water & light or the god of photosyntetic xD

 

[Darkholme]

I'm gonna say Praying = no.

Anyways, we have our own board. Development conversation should go in there, and this topic here is going to be for updates. The board should be just about all set up. at least the essentials anyways.

All team members go over there!

As for non-team members, you can keep posting here, or in the idea section on the new board.

OUR OWN BOARD!

 

[JanSze]

Ok good luck with your project! I would think its better if you get it hosted here on the Hive because i think here are more potencial fans of your map than there... But its your thing! The main thing is that your map gets ready so i can play it^^

 

[varsaigen]

Ok Darkholme, sounds great! I will continue to thinkk of other ideas for hero spells and such. I will post them in our board.

 

[Darkholme]

I still intend to maintain this topic, but instead of all the little bits being here, just the actual progress will be. The fact is, its just too big to manage in one thread, and we were offered full hosted project status at gamerisle.

 

[varsaigen]

Swwet. Well, I just signed up. Is it ok if I create a thread for Hero Abilities? That way, there is a chance that we could get some better abilities than what I may think of?

 

[Darkholme]

small note: creating topics should be disabled in most of the areas (all but ideas), and if any pop up unexpectedly in the wrong areas ill either be moving or deleting them, depending.

 

[varsaigen]

ok. I couldn't find out how to create a topic. I knew not to corrupt the other threads with it, but to put it in ideas.

Edit: Ok. It is made. Thanks!

EDIT: Here is the link: http://www.forums.gamerisle.org/index.php?board=71.0

 

[Eccho]

Yay, that looks nice... Eccho will be there as well

 

[Darkholme]

OK. I set up the forum, (which you guys said was a good idea) and then nobody went there. what gives?

 

[varsaigen]

I thought what I saw WAS the forum... hmmm..... I'll take a look. lol

 

[Eccho]

Well, still I havent done anything new except some improvements on the resource system already. Maybe I should keep a post updated on the forum showing what do?

Has currenly 3 stuff I must do.
1st: Spells and systems mini-contest submission
2nd: Improvement of the resource system I gave you
3rd: Mini-game contest submission

xO

And, Volvox has been there suggesting a Techtree, but you havent responded on him either aye

 

[varsaigen]

lol. that is a busy list you gave. Good luck in the contests!

 

[NearbyHermit]

Well,last years mini game contest was more attractive,so to say.
I wish you luck Eccho.

 

[Eccho]

Thanks both =). And Darkholme I will work on the scripting for EntSeed in between, so it's not going to be completely lost for a couple of weeks

Edit: NearbyHermit, good luck with yours as well._.

 

[Volvox]

I posted a new willow techtree there and got a bit frustrated when i saw that you didn't look at it...

 

[JanSze]

I know youre are really big team already. But i have to say that i would like to work with you^^ Maybe I can do some small things?! I can code in GUI (very) good. I know how you have to balance units and I usually have good ideas for units and spells We've got holidays right now so I have got enough time, too!

 

[varsaigen]

Darkholme, I just had an idea on how we could balance the units. When we have them made, we can use the Warcraft III Unit Balancer. This is just a thought.

 

[Volvox]

I already used that program and must say... It balances stats, not spells nor unit strategy, it's pure mathematics. Real game is different. Imo, we can only balance units trough a load of tests.

 

[Darkholme]

FRACKING HIVE AND ITS GOD DAMN ERRORS THAT NOBODY WILL LOOK INTO!

ok. UnitBalancer=Yes. works for melee units. on top of that, we need to do massive tests, but the balancer should theoretically save us some time.

and Jan, sure.
Make me an Oak Ent Techtree based on the specifications given here and post your attempt Here.

Make sure its easy to read.

 

[Eccho]

I posted a new willow techtree there and got a bit frustrated when i saw that you didn't look at it...

Volvox, the reason was, because he couldn't see it. I saw it and everyone else appeared to see it. But the attachments or something was unviewable for Darkholme

 

[varsaigen]

ok, Darkholme. Glad to help. There's nothing to kill a project than lengthening time, and I'm glad to see that this will cut time (if only by a little).