Dungeon Keeper

[Lord_Firage]

http://varimathraspoint.va.ohost.de/downloads/index.php?menu=1&maps=1&view=map_dread.jpg#Bild

A Dungeon Keeper Map has already been created by Varimathras.

 

[redmarine]

I believe that map isn't good quality.

 

[Darkholme]

There is indeed a dungeon keeper map by varimathras. However, it doesn't play anything like dungeon keeper, it looks terrible, and I think it's just an incredibly bad implementation.

We tested it before doing anything here (I think someone else had a like to it, and I definitely tested it out myself).

so to sum it up.

1. It's in german so it would be hard to read the directions.
2. it isn't any good anyways. - we all think it can be done considerably better, hence the project.

 

[redmarine]

After you've completed EntSeed will you continue this project imitietly? We'll have to figure out a way to make the massive tile system work efficiently and without any lag.

 

[Darkholme]

well maybe not immediately. I'll probably have a couple days of doing no wc3. but likely only 2 or 3 days.

 

[estarial]

to tell u the truth i think this 1 will B better than ent seed but itll take WAY loger so do ent seed 4 now

 

[estarial]

Also will wood be mana as a resource or will that like B a side bar?

 

[redmarine]

Also will wood be mana as a resource or will that like B a side bar?

It can either be gold, lumber or some integer variable.

 

[estarial]

id do it as lumber coz u need gold in it

 

[redmarine]

id do it as lumber coz u need gold in it

Or we could have a multiboard which shows the situation, amount of units and unit type and mana etc.
It would be best to use wood as gold because we're using tiles as destructible because it is less laggy than units. Gold could be mana. Also my tile system works fine at 92x92 = 8464... Probably too few?

 

[estarial]

if keeper is 2 laggy u cud always do black an wite, theyre very alike, but id prefer keeper
ps yea multibord wud be gud cos thats how it is on the real keeper

 

[estarial]

also r u gunna make a mouse icon which is a hand

 

[redmarine]

I think it is possible to implement animated mouse icons.

 

[estarial]

how will u have creatures levelin up? will they all count as heros? then the side of your screen would overflow with hero icons

 

[redmarine]

how will u have creatures levelin up? will they all count as heros? then the side of your screen would overflow with hero icons

They'll all be based on heroes and they'll probably have floating text which tells their status like health and level.

 

[Mc_Flurry]

is this game complete? and how do u get ur own mouse icons?

 

[Moontraveler]

how will u have creatures levelin up? will they all count as heros? then the side of your screen would overflow with hero icons

If you didn't know, it's possible to turn the hero icons off by use of the unit editor.

 

[Darkholme]

the game has been on hold while I work on another project. the other project suddenly halted progress a few days ago and im still trying to figure out why.

 

[NearbyHermit]

Well,hopefuly ,the map will be as good as the game is.

 

[Darkholme]

it would be nice wouldnt it. but as I said before, we're doing entseed first. ent seed is a bit less than 50% done.

we need to get the techtrees figured out, some scripts, heroes, and models.

if could be done in a month if everyone really worked at it.

 

[redmarine]

The order queue for the imp will be pretty lag less because in the original Dungeon Keeper 2 it had a slight delay between every order.

 

[NearbyHermit]

it would be nice wouldnt it. but as I said before, we're doing entseed first. ent seed is a bit less than 50% done.

we need to get the techtrees figured out, some scripts, heroes, and models.

if could be done in a month if everyone really worked at it.

Yeah,Ent Seed promises a lot,thats why I believe in it.

 

[Elven Spellmake]

You left click a unit, it picks it up. You can hold 8 or 10 at a time.
You right click a unit, it slaps it - this can make it work faster. the slapping may be unnecessary. Right clicking on empty tiles you on and not on a unit drops a unit there from your hand.

Does this mean you want to make this project with me?

The drawback to the original game is that it was a huge pain to make multiplayer work, as it used ipx, and the multiplayer seemed to be added as an afterthought.

Lol I was quite good at the map Editor for dungeon keeper, the syntax in the *.txt files is a lot nicer than JASS, which I have never been able to grasp...

Couldn't you replace the slap with a spell that is called slap, and basically does the same thing. The spell would only be avaliable if you hand was empty. And to pick up, another spell, so that it could still be possible to pick up creatures quickly by using HotKeys.
It was all creatures of that type work slightly faster if one creature is slapped and the creature that is slapped worked quite a bit faster...
I'm sure you JASSers out there would easily be able to do this.
I'm sure that I could do with G.U.I. triggers so it must be possible in JASS...

Another thing you would need to add is the "fighting amongst themselves" if Bile Demons share a lair with a skeleton, for example. I'm guessing that lairs are going to be seperate buildings? That would make it easier, set the life to high, so that no one can see it and make them invunerable. ;-)

 

[DaRkaHn]

hope this map is just as good as the game Dungeon Keeper 2 i know u based it on that game becuse of the Instructions THANKS FOR MAKING IT and no im not 50 years old... i found it in my dads chest of old games xD

 

[Lord_Firage]

Dungeon keeper isnt 50 Years Old ... something like 10-15 years

 

[Finallegacy]

Computer doesn't even EXIST 50 years ago. So how dungeon keeper can exist there?

Well, I saw once a dungeon keeper 2 game, wich got allready the portal spawning, with tiles and so on.

I dont know if you got that allready, i just read the first 4 sides of the topic, and then I was too lazy.

 

[Eleandor]

Computers DID exist 50 years ago

Although I'm pretty sure he was being ironic and simply exaggerating the age of the old-school game DK.
I haven't seen any warcraft 3 game yet that even closely resembles the feeling you get when playing DK...
Re-reading this thread, I've decided to restart this project again. I hope Darkholme will still be leading this, but I'm pretty sure he's not going to anymore
Either way, I'll be doing most, if not all, required systems in jass; could use someone for the object editing / modelling.

 

[NearbyHermit]

Computers existed back 50 years ago

But,no games what so ever,it was actually the age of modernization,when people researched modern software


Keeper was a D&D paper game,you threw a dice and played!

 

[Eleandor]

The earliest electronic ping-pong game was played on an analog computer using an oscilloscope as a display, and was developed by William A. Higinbotham at the Brookhaven National Laboratory in 1958. His game was called Tennis for Two.[8]

I win

 

[Lord_Firage]

Computers existed back 50 years ago

But,no games what so ever,it was actually the age of modernization,when people researched modern software


Keeper was a D&D paper game,you threw a dice and played!

God does it still exist ??

I really like PnP Games ...

 

[NearbyHermit]

Yes,I think it's still purchaseable

 

[Darkholme]

OK. I'm looking for someone to take over keeper for me.

I have all sorts of other things taking up my time, and dont really play videogames much anymore.

Work from university and my job reduce my free time drastically. And whats left is eaten up by other things.

Eleandor, Redmarine?

I had a thought while saying something similar on the EntSeed thread.

I dont have enough time to directly manage, but if you guys want to expand the project somehow and get like 'sub managers' I could manage them as long as I dont have to manage all the little details.

I'd be able to work that amount of time into my schedule.